comment by caniggiaforforest (U6917)
posted 10 minutes ago
Got some pride back in 2nd half but how does MW sort this defence out?
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Get better than Mills in. He is great in the air but isolated one on one, he gets toasted.
Same to you guys MacP. That result was a bit like our loss to Wolves. It was always going to be a 1 goal difference, just like the Wolves game.
Oh well, onwards and up(?)wards...
Two home games coming up against Fulham and Sheff Utd. Four points from those two would steady the ship.
comment by El Bosque [Basoa in Euskara] (U1617)
posted less than a minute ago
Same to you guys MacP. That result was a bit like our loss to Wolves. It was always going to be a 1 goal difference, just like the Wolves game.
Oh well, onwards and up(?)wards...
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Saw the last ten minutes. It was a lot closer than the Wolves game. I suspect Forest will travel down to Villa Park once more next season.
Right, off downstairs to watch Barca and get a couple of cubatas down me neck...
comment by Will Scarlet (U17891)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by El Bosque [Basoa in Euskara] (U1617)
posted less than a minute ago
Same to you guys MacP. That result was a bit like our loss to Wolves. It was always going to be a 1 goal difference, just like the Wolves game.
Oh well, onwards and up(?)wards...
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Saw the last ten minutes. It was a lot closer than the Wolves game. I suspect Forest will travel down to Villa Park once more next season.
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I say it was closer in so much that Villa dropped right back as they were concerned.
comment by El Bosque [Basoa in Euskara] (U1617)
posted less than a minute ago
Right, off downstairs to watch Barca and get a couple of cubatas down me neck...
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Off to Barca next month. They're playing Malaga the day we land. Will try and get to it if tickets are easy to come by.
Won't be around on Tuesday as I'm meeting a friend in Bilbao who is arriving from UK that night...
Will, you might be better off trying to book Barca tickets online before you come out. The website is available in English.
If you do get them, it's a pretty impressive stadium to watch a match...
comment by El Bosque [Basoa in Euskara] (U1617)
posted 6 minutes ago
Won't be around on Tuesday as I'm meeting a friend in Bilbao who is arriving from UK that night...
Will, you might be better off trying to book Barca tickets online before you come out. The website is available in English.
If you do get them, it's a pretty impressive stadium to watch a match...
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Ah, I'll give that a go then. It is slated as a 4.45pm KO local time. Is it likely to change from that time for tv?
What date is it? The League here set the times about 4 weeks in advance so the TV companies can sort out the times. Normally there is only one game being played at any time over the weekends. (Except for the end of season, of course)
Just check the LFP calendar and the time is not fixed yet. Should fixed by next week...
The fixtures are here:
http://www.laliga.es/en/calendar-time/laliga-santander#5_1_9_22_10_2017
Thanks EB. I'll hang on till next week then. Hopefully it won't move from the Sunday. Lad is so excited about going it'll be disaster if they move it!
It will depend on which day, Tuesday or Wednesday, that Barca play their Champions League game against Olympiakos. If they play Wednesday, then the Malaga game will be on Sunday...
I'll start lobbying UEFA then!
Mills gets badly dragged out of position for 1st goal. Someone should have covered him really and Darikwa just left his marker. 2nd goal was poor from Smith but also a good free kick. Think we played some good stuff in that 2nd half so it's a shame we didn't get a point.
I don’t claim to be a tactical genius, but playing Brereton out wide is not working at all, in fact it’s almost like playing with 10 men, and if you are going to take a yellow for the team, don’t do it in shooting distance. Don’t get me wrong I am not having a go at B.B. but playing him in this position makes as much sense as playing Grant Holt out wide about a decade ago. We may have deserved a point today, but ultimately goals win games and results keep a manager in his post. At the moment we concede far too easily far too regularly, and eventually something will have to give. I don’t think we are to far away from being a competent side but unless results pick up MW will come under pressure, especially with the Derby coming up soon. The next 3 games are extremely difficult so a return of 4 or 5 points would be massive.
Yep, the BB conundrum is going to start to dominate proceedings too much. I feel if Ward were available he would be getting the nod. BB should be upfront where his attributes work. He shouldn't be tracking back.
We are definitely much stronger down the left side than the right, some of the inter play between McKay, Dowell and Traore is very exciting.
For me, biggest problem yesterday was a lack of urgency in the cm, there seemed little movement and options and this left our back stuck looking to move the ball forward, and eventually lead to forcing a pass and making errors.
Osborn made a difference when he came on, he move the ball quicker and with more accuracy. And we started to break lines and push on to their defence with options, thus leading to us creating more chaces.
I wouldn't play Bouch and Bridcutt together unless we have no other options, hopefully a fit Vaughan or Osborn will hold the position.
In the summer a few fans questioned why we wanted another cm, and were chasing the Hibs lad so hard. But yesterday it was clear why.
We are making silly mistakes that is costing us points but I am confident if we can get the right player in the cm who can help move the ball in it quicker and push our possession up the field then a lot of the errors will dry up.
Reddave is absolutely right - Ben Brereton has spent about five years in the academy learning the striker's role, and he does it very well. But now we are asking him to play in midfield. He can't do it; he hasn't been shown how.
If you need a plumber you don't phone an electrician.
Playing darikwa, dowell, Osborn, cummings, carayol (be it maybe with some poor crosses), maybe even Walker at RW would be better right now than denting the lads confidence in a position the world knows he's struggling in.
I hope MW sees how effective dowell was there against villa and plays Osborn in the centre against Fulham as otherwise, we're playing with 10, play everything down the left, and we're easy to set up against.
If we had either cash or ward we wouldn't be talking about this, but that's just how it is. They shouldn't be too far off recovery by now.
Think everyone should be back in training tomorrow other than Cohen.
I agree that many fans are worried that continually playing BB in that unfamiliar position will dent his confidence. Yes, you should be flexible to the needs of the team, but the upshot is there are others in the squad that can play that position and have shown it.
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posted on 23/9/17
comment by caniggiaforforest (U6917)
posted 10 minutes ago
Got some pride back in 2nd half but how does MW sort this defence out?
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Get better than Mills in. He is great in the air but isolated one on one, he gets toasted.
posted on 23/9/17
Same to you guys MacP. That result was a bit like our loss to Wolves. It was always going to be a 1 goal difference, just like the Wolves game.
Oh well, onwards and up(?)wards...
posted on 23/9/17
Two home games coming up against Fulham and Sheff Utd. Four points from those two would steady the ship.
posted on 23/9/17
comment by El Bosque [Basoa in Euskara] (U1617)
posted less than a minute ago
Same to you guys MacP. That result was a bit like our loss to Wolves. It was always going to be a 1 goal difference, just like the Wolves game.
Oh well, onwards and up(?)wards...
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Saw the last ten minutes. It was a lot closer than the Wolves game. I suspect Forest will travel down to Villa Park once more next season.
posted on 23/9/17
Right, off downstairs to watch Barca and get a couple of cubatas down me neck...
posted on 23/9/17
comment by Will Scarlet (U17891)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by El Bosque [Basoa in Euskara] (U1617)
posted less than a minute ago
Same to you guys MacP. That result was a bit like our loss to Wolves. It was always going to be a 1 goal difference, just like the Wolves game.
Oh well, onwards and up(?)wards...
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Saw the last ten minutes. It was a lot closer than the Wolves game. I suspect Forest will travel down to Villa Park once more next season.
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I say it was closer in so much that Villa dropped right back as they were concerned.
posted on 23/9/17
comment by El Bosque [Basoa in Euskara] (U1617)
posted less than a minute ago
Right, off downstairs to watch Barca and get a couple of cubatas down me neck...
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Off to Barca next month. They're playing Malaga the day we land. Will try and get to it if tickets are easy to come by.
posted on 23/9/17
Won't be around on Tuesday as I'm meeting a friend in Bilbao who is arriving from UK that night...
Will, you might be better off trying to book Barca tickets online before you come out. The website is available in English.
If you do get them, it's a pretty impressive stadium to watch a match...
posted on 23/9/17
comment by El Bosque [Basoa in Euskara] (U1617)
posted 6 minutes ago
Won't be around on Tuesday as I'm meeting a friend in Bilbao who is arriving from UK that night...
Will, you might be better off trying to book Barca tickets online before you come out. The website is available in English.
If you do get them, it's a pretty impressive stadium to watch a match...
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Ah, I'll give that a go then. It is slated as a 4.45pm KO local time. Is it likely to change from that time for tv?
posted on 23/9/17
What date is it? The League here set the times about 4 weeks in advance so the TV companies can sort out the times. Normally there is only one game being played at any time over the weekends. (Except for the end of season, of course)
Just check the LFP calendar and the time is not fixed yet. Should fixed by next week...
posted on 23/9/17
The fixtures are here:
http://www.laliga.es/en/calendar-time/laliga-santander#5_1_9_22_10_2017
posted on 23/9/17
Thanks EB. I'll hang on till next week then. Hopefully it won't move from the Sunday. Lad is so excited about going it'll be disaster if they move it!
posted on 23/9/17
It will depend on which day, Tuesday or Wednesday, that Barca play their Champions League game against Olympiakos. If they play Wednesday, then the Malaga game will be on Sunday...
posted on 23/9/17
I'll start lobbying UEFA then!
posted on 23/9/17
Mills gets badly dragged out of position for 1st goal. Someone should have covered him really and Darikwa just left his marker. 2nd goal was poor from Smith but also a good free kick. Think we played some good stuff in that 2nd half so it's a shame we didn't get a point.
posted on 23/9/17
I don’t claim to be a tactical genius, but playing Brereton out wide is not working at all, in fact it’s almost like playing with 10 men, and if you are going to take a yellow for the team, don’t do it in shooting distance. Don’t get me wrong I am not having a go at B.B. but playing him in this position makes as much sense as playing Grant Holt out wide about a decade ago. We may have deserved a point today, but ultimately goals win games and results keep a manager in his post. At the moment we concede far too easily far too regularly, and eventually something will have to give. I don’t think we are to far away from being a competent side but unless results pick up MW will come under pressure, especially with the Derby coming up soon. The next 3 games are extremely difficult so a return of 4 or 5 points would be massive.
posted on 23/9/17
Yep, the BB conundrum is going to start to dominate proceedings too much. I feel if Ward were available he would be getting the nod. BB should be upfront where his attributes work. He shouldn't be tracking back.
posted on 24/9/17
We are definitely much stronger down the left side than the right, some of the inter play between McKay, Dowell and Traore is very exciting.
For me, biggest problem yesterday was a lack of urgency in the cm, there seemed little movement and options and this left our back stuck looking to move the ball forward, and eventually lead to forcing a pass and making errors.
Osborn made a difference when he came on, he move the ball quicker and with more accuracy. And we started to break lines and push on to their defence with options, thus leading to us creating more chaces.
I wouldn't play Bouch and Bridcutt together unless we have no other options, hopefully a fit Vaughan or Osborn will hold the position.
In the summer a few fans questioned why we wanted another cm, and were chasing the Hibs lad so hard. But yesterday it was clear why.
We are making silly mistakes that is costing us points but I am confident if we can get the right player in the cm who can help move the ball in it quicker and push our possession up the field then a lot of the errors will dry up.
posted on 24/9/17
Reddave is absolutely right - Ben Brereton has spent about five years in the academy learning the striker's role, and he does it very well. But now we are asking him to play in midfield. He can't do it; he hasn't been shown how.
If you need a plumber you don't phone an electrician.
posted on 24/9/17
Playing darikwa, dowell, Osborn, cummings, carayol (be it maybe with some poor crosses), maybe even Walker at RW would be better right now than denting the lads confidence in a position the world knows he's struggling in.
I hope MW sees how effective dowell was there against villa and plays Osborn in the centre against Fulham as otherwise, we're playing with 10, play everything down the left, and we're easy to set up against.
If we had either cash or ward we wouldn't be talking about this, but that's just how it is. They shouldn't be too far off recovery by now.
posted on 24/9/17
Think everyone should be back in training tomorrow other than Cohen.
posted on 24/9/17
I agree that many fans are worried that continually playing BB in that unfamiliar position will dent his confidence. Yes, you should be flexible to the needs of the team, but the upshot is there are others in the squad that can play that position and have shown it.
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