1. City
2. Spurs
3/4. United/Chelsea
5. Liverpool
6. Arsenal

Pep has got this season, Spurs will put the pressure on again.

At some point we will have Morata and Hazard fully fit and that alone should get us enough points for top 4. Still not sold with United yet and i think they will fight us for 3rd.

Liverpool's tendency of giving to the poor will see them narrowly miss out and Arsenal will likely scrap top 4 and go ror the Rpey.

*go for the Ropey.

I see Mark Lawrenson has started writing articles on JA606

1.City
2.United
3.Chelsea
4.Spurs
5.Liverpool
6.Arsenal

1. City
2. Chelsea
3/4. United/Spurs
5/6 Arsenal/Liverpool

1. City
2. United
3/4. Chelsea/Spurs
5/6. Liverpool/Arsenal

Depends on who drops out of the Champions league stages early enough,

Unsure if you are trying to convince yourself that Liverpool are in with a shot despite more indifferent start to the season than bother Spurs and Chelsea.

Arsenal and Liverpool are the two teams that have been the least convincing by quite a way thus far this season with the weaknesses in the squads quite obvious.

Huge weakness on both Arsenal and Liverpool, but if we lose Kane then there is a massive gap from him to Llorente

Same can be said for Chelsea (they lost Morata and Kante) and lost to Palace

The top 6 for me.

1. City
2. United
3. Spurs
4. Chelsea
5. Liverpool
6. Watford.

City
Spurs
United
Liverpool (would say Chelsea but they look like they might implode anytime soon).

City
Chelsea
Spurs
Liverpool
Arsenal

Liverpool have to stop chucking points away with stupid errors. If we do manage to eliminate (or minimise) the individual errors then we're in with a shot. If not then I don't think we'll make top 4.

City look fantastic. I was listening to a podcast this week that was basically saying if you can't detach from rivalries and appreciate what they're doing then why do you watch football. Completely agree.

Utd will in all likelihood get top 4. They're defensively solid and have a real 25 goal (or more) striker. I don't think they'll be terribly close to City but they'll be top 4.

Spurs are a very good unit. If it weren't for Wembley I'd say they could run City the closest. Still think they need Kane fit. Llorente is decent but he's no Kane.

Chelsea is a strange one. It seems that Conte isn't the perfect fit he seemed last year. He seems unhappy and now talk of the players not being happy with him. They still have a good squad though and Hazard still to throw into the mix.

Even as a Liverpool fan I think my guess would be:
1) City
2) Spurs
3) Utd
4) Chelsea
5) Liverpool
6) Arsenal

Although Spurs and Utd could be argued the other way around.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
City
Spurs
United
Liverpool (would say Chelsea but they look like they might implode anytime soon).
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We always implode at some stage, but manage to win trophies and get 4 every season 95 pc of time.

At Chelsea: c'est normal!

1) Spurs
2) City
3) United
4) Chelsea

Spurs (can't play any worse at home, so surely will improve, best balanced team of the bnunch, Capable of going on long winning runs ala last year) City (Will hit a dip at some point, everyone was gushing over them 12 months ago until they got smashed by Spurs. Just don't trust Pep, not sure he's that great of a coach when things get tricky, I guess more checkbook action), United (Too defensive, Jose will play for draws in games Spurs & City will win.) & Chelsea (all depends if they can keep their house in order but they have the know-how & the players).

MISSING OUT... Liverpool (unbalanced squad, defensively weak), Arsenal (Ozil, Sanchez, Wenger, Kroenke, Fans.. I can go on), Everton Watford are better

Spurs at home to Liverpool will give us a better idea. I know it's only one game, but a loss for us and you would have to seriously question how far we can go with the monkey that is Wembley on our back.

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs at home to Liverpool will give us a better idea. I know it's only one game, but a loss for us and you would have to seriously question how far we can go with the monkey that is Wembley on our back.
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I hear ya mate... Its gotta get better at some point right ? Its still 11 vs 11 on a bit of grass and we are better than most..... How desperate am I ?

Diamond, after beating Bournemouth the confidence should be there. In fact it should have been there after the Dortmund win, but we followed it up with a poor performance against Swansea.

The worry for me is how slow and how few chances we create at Wembley. I'm hoping the reverse will happen on Sunday when playing a bigger team.

Wembley will be the key for us, if we don't start picking up wins it will be a disaster

2 points from 9 at home

Phenom

Bloody Nora...

https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2017/10/20/revealed-how-much-man-city-arsenal-leicester-spurs-made-from-the-201617-champions-league/

Sorry 5 points from 12

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 11 minutes ago
Spurs at home to Liverpool will give us a better idea. I know it's only one game, but a loss for us and you would have to seriously question how far we can go with the monkey that is Wembley on our back.
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If we lose to LFC it will not be because of Wembley.

We have struggled vs teams who park the bus (as many teams will when they come to play us).

We played very well vs Chelsea and were very unlucky not to have at least 1 point.

We beat Dortmund there.

Liverpool have caused us problems since Klopp arrived. We have not beaten them and been lucky to get a point in a couple games.

If they are on their game they will be hard for any team to contain. Wembley will have nothing to do with it if they play well and beat us, IMO.

1. Mourinho's back to back treble winners
2. Chelsea
3. Spurs
4. Everton (dark horses this season after spending lots)
5. West Ham (dark horses this season after spending lots)
6. Arsenal
7. Liverpool
8. City (Guardiola is finding out the hard way that this is the PREM and can't win 5-0 most weeks like he did in weaker leagues. FRUAD!)
9. West Brom

comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bloody Nora...

https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2017/10/20/revealed-how-much-man-city-arsenal-leicester-spurs-made-from-the-201617-champions-league/

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plus three games of 80k at Wembley. Probably talking the best part of £50m earned for Spurs

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 11 minutes ago
Spurs at home to Liverpool will give us a better idea. I know it's only one game, but a loss for us and you would have to seriously question how far we can go with the monkey that is Wembley on our back.
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If we lose to LFC it will not be because of Wembley.

We have struggled vs teams who park the bus (as many teams will when they come to play us).

We played very well vs Chelsea and were very unlucky not to have at least 1 point.

We beat Dortmund there.

Liverpool have caused us problems since Klopp arrived. We have not beaten them and been lucky to get a point in a couple games.

If they are on their game they will be hard for any team to contain. Wembley will have nothing to do with it if they play well and beat us, IMO.
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I disagree. You can't go from WHL and not lose a single home game all season, then lose to Chelsea and Liverpool the next season in the first 5 home games and claim it's nothing to do with Wembley. We are a much better team than getting 5 points from 15 would suggest. And even while dominating in the Chelsea match, we didn't particularly create a lot of chances.

Spurs have lost just one of six games at Wembley this season. Spurs will win lots of games at Wembley. Opposition fans had better get used to it.