comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Hitchens has another hot take
https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/status/1539880910849548289?t=ObQwMjFStEg7WxqU-Ur8ag&s=19
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Good find Crouch Interesting read, he might be a grumpy old git but he's bang on with this.
comment by Lalalala Lokonga (U3664)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Hitchens has another hot take
https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/status/1539880910849548289?t=ObQwMjFStEg7WxqU-Ur8ag&s=19
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Good find CrouchInteresting read, he might be a grumpy old git but he's bang on with this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
It always strikes me as weird that so many on here can't get passed the whole Priti bullying thing.
Personally I think it's great that she gave some lazy middle aged bed wetters at the civil service a rocket up their arse.
Surely the Rayner followers on here should like a strong woman?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can give a staff member a rocket up the arris without bullying them and breaking the ministerial code.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ministerial code is far too subjective and clearly doesn't work (56 mp's under investigation) as a deterrent for poor behaviour.
It should be done away with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not a good enough deterrent, let's not have one altogether
*OR*
It's not good enough, let's strengthen it to make it a better deterrent?
Hmmm..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we are agreeing, when I say it should be done away with I mean in its current form as it's not fit for purpose.
However I don't want a new version to get hung up on a bit of shouting at work. In my experience that goes on everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
It's a matter of dignity, a fack up shouldn't mean you get reamed out in front of your colleagues ffs, everyone makes mistakes.
Absoloutley no justification for people being intimidated at work, I certainly wouldn't sit there and take it.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Hitchens has another hot take
https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/status/1539880910849548289?t=ObQwMjFStEg7WxqU-Ur8ag&s=19
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Must be terrible for that poor guy. His brother has been dead for over a decade and poor Peter is still in his shadow.
comment by Alisson Wonderland (Formerly LGT) (U13718)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 33 minutes ago
Hitchens has another hot take
https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/status/1539880910849548289?t=ObQwMjFStEg7WxqU-Ur8ag&s=19
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It always amazed me the Peter Hitchens has managed to form a successful career out of being bitter that he isn't as smart as his brother was.
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Oops! Truth.
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
It always strikes me as weird that so many on here can't get passed the whole Priti bullying thing.
Personally I think it's great that she gave some lazy middle aged bed wetters at the civil service a rocket up their arse.
Surely the Rayner followers on here should like a strong woman?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can give a staff member a rocket up the arris without bullying them and breaking the ministerial code.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ministerial code is far too subjective and clearly doesn't work (56 mp's under investigation) as a deterrent for poor behaviour.
It should be done away with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not a good enough deterrent, let's not have one altogether
*OR*
It's not good enough, let's strengthen it to make it a better deterrent?
Hmmm..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we are agreeing, when I say it should be done away with I mean in its current form as it's not fit for purpose.
However I don't want a new version to get hung up on a bit of shouting at work. In my experience that goes on everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
It's a matter of dignity, a fack up shouldn't mean you get reamed out in front of your colleagues ffs, everyone makes mistakes.
Absoloutley no justification for people being intimidated at work, I certainly wouldn't sit there and take it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
By the same token everyone gets angry and loses it from time to time, just human emotion.
Yes she was in the wrong, but as you say everyone makes mistakes.
comment by Lalalala Lokonga (U3664)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
It always strikes me as weird that so many on here can't get passed the whole Priti bullying thing.
Personally I think it's great that she gave some lazy middle aged bed wetters at the civil service a rocket up their arse.
Surely the Rayner followers on here should like a strong woman?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can give a staff member a rocket up the arris without bullying them and breaking the ministerial code.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ministerial code is far too subjective and clearly doesn't work (56 mp's under investigation) as a deterrent for poor behaviour.
It should be done away with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not a good enough deterrent, let's not have one altogether
*OR*
It's not good enough, let's strengthen it to make it a better deterrent?
Hmmm..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we are agreeing, when I say it should be done away with I mean in its current form as it's not fit for purpose.
However I don't want a new version to get hung up on a bit of shouting at work. In my experience that goes on everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
It's a matter of dignity, a fack up shouldn't mean you get reamed out in front of your colleagues ffs, everyone makes mistakes.
Absoloutley no justification for people being intimidated at work, I certainly wouldn't sit there and take it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
By the same token everyone gets angry and loses it from time to time, just human emotion.
Yes she was in the wrong, but as you say everyone makes mistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It wasn't a one off mistake though.
comment by Lalalala Lokonga (U3664)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
It always strikes me as weird that so many on here can't get passed the whole Priti bullying thing.
Personally I think it's great that she gave some lazy middle aged bed wetters at the civil service a rocket up their arse.
Surely the Rayner followers on here should like a strong woman?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can give a staff member a rocket up the arris without bullying them and breaking the ministerial code.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ministerial code is far too subjective and clearly doesn't work (56 mp's under investigation) as a deterrent for poor behaviour.
It should be done away with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not a good enough deterrent, let's not have one altogether
*OR*
It's not good enough, let's strengthen it to make it a better deterrent?
Hmmm..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we are agreeing, when I say it should be done away with I mean in its current form as it's not fit for purpose.
However I don't want a new version to get hung up on a bit of shouting at work. In my experience that goes on everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
It's a matter of dignity, a fack up shouldn't mean you get reamed out in front of your colleagues ffs, everyone makes mistakes.
Absoloutley no justification for people being intimidated at work, I certainly wouldn't sit there and take it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
By the same token everyone gets angry and loses it from time to time, just human emotion.
Yes she was in the wrong, but as you say everyone makes mistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Across the three government departments in which she served? It was no an isolated incident but misconduct across a number of departments over a prolonged period of time.
As well as being forced to settle (for close to £400,000) the Rutnam constructive dismissal case. Which meant she did not have to give evidence before the public tribunal.
And that's just in the last couple of years.
That's why companies (public and private) have "diversity and inclusion" roles for 90k+
It's not worry it just saves money in employment tribunals
BREAKING: British Airways workers at Heathrow have vote to strike this summer
https://twitter.com/nadinebh_/status/1539966459480117252?t=wuXcz7SEw7n67sr51jz9Sg&s=19
Oh dear
Wasn't planning on going abroad this summer anyway 😎
It’s a poverty airline anyway
BREAKING:
GMB & UNITE confirm Heathrow Baggage handlers etc have voted to strike - Mid School Holiday period time!
Country grinding to a halt
I'm sure it will be Labour's fault.
It'll be the bin men next. Takes me back.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Lalalala Lokonga(U3664)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
It always strikes me as weird that so many on here can't get passed the whole Priti bullying thing.
Personally I think it's great that she gave some lazy middle aged bed wetters at the civil service a rocket up their arse.
Surely the Rayner followers on here should like a strong woman?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can give a staff member a rocket up the arris without bullying them and breaking the ministerial code.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ministerial code is far too subjective and clearly doesn't work (56 mp's under investigation) as a deterrent for poor behaviour.
It should be done away with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not a good enough deterrent, let's not have one altogether
*OR*
It's not good enough, let's strengthen it to make it a better deterrent?
Hmmm..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we are agreeing, when I say it should be done away with I mean in its current form as it's not fit for purpose.
However I don't want a new version to get hung up on a bit of shouting at work. In my experience that goes on everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
It's a matter of dignity, a fack up shouldn't mean you get reamed out in front of your colleagues ffs, everyone makes mistakes.
Absoloutley no justification for people being intimidated at work, I certainly wouldn't sit there and take it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
By the same token everyone gets angry and loses it from time to time, just human emotion.
Yes she was in the wrong, but as you say everyone makes mistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Across the three government departments in which she served? It was no an isolated incident but misconduct across a number of departments over a prolonged period of time.
As well as being forced to settle (for close to £400,000) the Rutnam constructive dismissal case. Which meant she did not have to give evidence before the public tribunal.
And that's just in the last couple of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wish I was constructively dismissed and given 400k.
Not a bad payment for refusing to man up.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It'll be the bin men next. Takes me back.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They've been on strike for the last 6 months by me anyway. They only collect every 3 weeks and the recycling guys do their best to refuse to take it every time they collect.
I'm a member of the TU Prospect
have been for years
Comrade Peks
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 41 minutes ago
I'm sure it will be Labour's fault.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wonder if Sir Keir will get that fence post out of his rse and like 26 of his mp's do what Labour are supposed to do.
Out of interest Pawl, what line of work are you in?
Office job?
Self employed?
The US Supreme Court has struck down a New York law restricting gun carrying rights.
The law required residents who want a licence to prove "proper cause" to carry concealed weapons and that they faced "a special or unique" danger.
The 6-3 decision stated the requirement violates the Constitutional right to bear arms.
The ruling jeopardises similar restrictions in other states and expands gun rights.
-------------
Great, even less gun laws in the US now
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 7 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 minutes ago
Care workers are treated incredibly unfairly so noone else should complain is a hot take
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Amazing how the concern for the underpaid only comes up when workers organise
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This is ahistorical gibberish.
Anyway, carry on.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 3 seconds ago
The US Supreme Court has struck down a New York law restricting gun carrying rights.
The law required residents who want a licence to prove "proper cause" to carry concealed weapons and that they faced "a special or unique" danger.
The 6-3 decision stated the requirement violates the Constitutional right to bear arms.
The ruling jeopardises similar restrictions in other states and expands gun rights.
-------------
Great, even less gun laws in the US now
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I've always thought that the National Guard in each state were "...a well regulated militia".
But if they want to kill each other, that's their choice.
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posted on 23/6/22
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Hitchens has another hot take
https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/status/1539880910849548289?t=ObQwMjFStEg7WxqU-Ur8ag&s=19
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good find Crouch Interesting read, he might be a grumpy old git but he's bang on with this.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Lalalala Lokonga (U3664)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Hitchens has another hot take
https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/status/1539880910849548289?t=ObQwMjFStEg7WxqU-Ur8ag&s=19
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good find CrouchInteresting read, he might be a grumpy old git but he's bang on with this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 23/6/22
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
It always strikes me as weird that so many on here can't get passed the whole Priti bullying thing.
Personally I think it's great that she gave some lazy middle aged bed wetters at the civil service a rocket up their arse.
Surely the Rayner followers on here should like a strong woman?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can give a staff member a rocket up the arris without bullying them and breaking the ministerial code.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ministerial code is far too subjective and clearly doesn't work (56 mp's under investigation) as a deterrent for poor behaviour.
It should be done away with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not a good enough deterrent, let's not have one altogether
*OR*
It's not good enough, let's strengthen it to make it a better deterrent?
Hmmm..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we are agreeing, when I say it should be done away with I mean in its current form as it's not fit for purpose.
However I don't want a new version to get hung up on a bit of shouting at work. In my experience that goes on everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
It's a matter of dignity, a fack up shouldn't mean you get reamed out in front of your colleagues ffs, everyone makes mistakes.
Absoloutley no justification for people being intimidated at work, I certainly wouldn't sit there and take it.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Hitchens has another hot take
https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/status/1539880910849548289?t=ObQwMjFStEg7WxqU-Ur8ag&s=19
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Must be terrible for that poor guy. His brother has been dead for over a decade and poor Peter is still in his shadow.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Alisson Wonderland (Formerly LGT) (U13718)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 33 minutes ago
Hitchens has another hot take
https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/status/1539880910849548289?t=ObQwMjFStEg7WxqU-Ur8ag&s=19
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It always amazed me the Peter Hitchens has managed to form a successful career out of being bitter that he isn't as smart as his brother was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oops! Truth.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
It always strikes me as weird that so many on here can't get passed the whole Priti bullying thing.
Personally I think it's great that she gave some lazy middle aged bed wetters at the civil service a rocket up their arse.
Surely the Rayner followers on here should like a strong woman?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can give a staff member a rocket up the arris without bullying them and breaking the ministerial code.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ministerial code is far too subjective and clearly doesn't work (56 mp's under investigation) as a deterrent for poor behaviour.
It should be done away with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not a good enough deterrent, let's not have one altogether
*OR*
It's not good enough, let's strengthen it to make it a better deterrent?
Hmmm..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we are agreeing, when I say it should be done away with I mean in its current form as it's not fit for purpose.
However I don't want a new version to get hung up on a bit of shouting at work. In my experience that goes on everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
It's a matter of dignity, a fack up shouldn't mean you get reamed out in front of your colleagues ffs, everyone makes mistakes.
Absoloutley no justification for people being intimidated at work, I certainly wouldn't sit there and take it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
By the same token everyone gets angry and loses it from time to time, just human emotion.
Yes she was in the wrong, but as you say everyone makes mistakes.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Lalalala Lokonga (U3664)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
It always strikes me as weird that so many on here can't get passed the whole Priti bullying thing.
Personally I think it's great that she gave some lazy middle aged bed wetters at the civil service a rocket up their arse.
Surely the Rayner followers on here should like a strong woman?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can give a staff member a rocket up the arris without bullying them and breaking the ministerial code.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ministerial code is far too subjective and clearly doesn't work (56 mp's under investigation) as a deterrent for poor behaviour.
It should be done away with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not a good enough deterrent, let's not have one altogether
*OR*
It's not good enough, let's strengthen it to make it a better deterrent?
Hmmm..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we are agreeing, when I say it should be done away with I mean in its current form as it's not fit for purpose.
However I don't want a new version to get hung up on a bit of shouting at work. In my experience that goes on everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
It's a matter of dignity, a fack up shouldn't mean you get reamed out in front of your colleagues ffs, everyone makes mistakes.
Absoloutley no justification for people being intimidated at work, I certainly wouldn't sit there and take it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
By the same token everyone gets angry and loses it from time to time, just human emotion.
Yes she was in the wrong, but as you say everyone makes mistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It wasn't a one off mistake though.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Lalalala Lokonga (U3664)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
It always strikes me as weird that so many on here can't get passed the whole Priti bullying thing.
Personally I think it's great that she gave some lazy middle aged bed wetters at the civil service a rocket up their arse.
Surely the Rayner followers on here should like a strong woman?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can give a staff member a rocket up the arris without bullying them and breaking the ministerial code.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ministerial code is far too subjective and clearly doesn't work (56 mp's under investigation) as a deterrent for poor behaviour.
It should be done away with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not a good enough deterrent, let's not have one altogether
*OR*
It's not good enough, let's strengthen it to make it a better deterrent?
Hmmm..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we are agreeing, when I say it should be done away with I mean in its current form as it's not fit for purpose.
However I don't want a new version to get hung up on a bit of shouting at work. In my experience that goes on everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
It's a matter of dignity, a fack up shouldn't mean you get reamed out in front of your colleagues ffs, everyone makes mistakes.
Absoloutley no justification for people being intimidated at work, I certainly wouldn't sit there and take it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
By the same token everyone gets angry and loses it from time to time, just human emotion.
Yes she was in the wrong, but as you say everyone makes mistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Across the three government departments in which she served? It was no an isolated incident but misconduct across a number of departments over a prolonged period of time.
As well as being forced to settle (for close to £400,000) the Rutnam constructive dismissal case. Which meant she did not have to give evidence before the public tribunal.
And that's just in the last couple of years.
posted on 23/6/22
That's why companies (public and private) have "diversity and inclusion" roles for 90k+
It's not worry it just saves money in employment tribunals
posted on 23/6/22
BREAKING: British Airways workers at Heathrow have vote to strike this summer
https://twitter.com/nadinebh_/status/1539966459480117252?t=wuXcz7SEw7n67sr51jz9Sg&s=19
Oh dear
posted on 23/6/22
Burn it all down
posted on 23/6/22
Wasn't planning on going abroad this summer anyway 😎
posted on 23/6/22
It’s a poverty airline anyway
posted on 23/6/22
BREAKING:
GMB & UNITE confirm Heathrow Baggage handlers etc have voted to strike - Mid School Holiday period time!
Country grinding to a halt
posted on 23/6/22
I'm sure it will be Labour's fault.
posted on 23/6/22
It'll be the bin men next. Takes me back.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Lalalala Lokonga(U3664)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
It always strikes me as weird that so many on here can't get passed the whole Priti bullying thing.
Personally I think it's great that she gave some lazy middle aged bed wetters at the civil service a rocket up their arse.
Surely the Rayner followers on here should like a strong woman?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can give a staff member a rocket up the arris without bullying them and breaking the ministerial code.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ministerial code is far too subjective and clearly doesn't work (56 mp's under investigation) as a deterrent for poor behaviour.
It should be done away with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not a good enough deterrent, let's not have one altogether
*OR*
It's not good enough, let's strengthen it to make it a better deterrent?
Hmmm..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we are agreeing, when I say it should be done away with I mean in its current form as it's not fit for purpose.
However I don't want a new version to get hung up on a bit of shouting at work. In my experience that goes on everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
It's a matter of dignity, a fack up shouldn't mean you get reamed out in front of your colleagues ffs, everyone makes mistakes.
Absoloutley no justification for people being intimidated at work, I certainly wouldn't sit there and take it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
By the same token everyone gets angry and loses it from time to time, just human emotion.
Yes she was in the wrong, but as you say everyone makes mistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Across the three government departments in which she served? It was no an isolated incident but misconduct across a number of departments over a prolonged period of time.
As well as being forced to settle (for close to £400,000) the Rutnam constructive dismissal case. Which meant she did not have to give evidence before the public tribunal.
And that's just in the last couple of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wish I was constructively dismissed and given 400k.
Not a bad payment for refusing to man up.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It'll be the bin men next. Takes me back.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They've been on strike for the last 6 months by me anyway. They only collect every 3 weeks and the recycling guys do their best to refuse to take it every time they collect.
posted on 23/6/22
I'm a member of the TU Prospect
have been for years
Comrade Peks
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 41 minutes ago
I'm sure it will be Labour's fault.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wonder if Sir Keir will get that fence post out of his rse and like 26 of his mp's do what Labour are supposed to do.
posted on 23/6/22
Out of interest Pawl, what line of work are you in?
Office job?
Self employed?
posted on 23/6/22
The US Supreme Court has struck down a New York law restricting gun carrying rights.
The law required residents who want a licence to prove "proper cause" to carry concealed weapons and that they faced "a special or unique" danger.
The 6-3 decision stated the requirement violates the Constitutional right to bear arms.
The ruling jeopardises similar restrictions in other states and expands gun rights.
-------------
Great, even less gun laws in the US now
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 7 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 minutes ago
Care workers are treated incredibly unfairly so noone else should complain is a hot take
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Amazing how the concern for the underpaid only comes up when workers organise
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is ahistorical gibberish.
Anyway, carry on.
posted on 23/6/22
Thanks for popping by
posted on 23/6/22
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 3 seconds ago
The US Supreme Court has struck down a New York law restricting gun carrying rights.
The law required residents who want a licence to prove "proper cause" to carry concealed weapons and that they faced "a special or unique" danger.
The 6-3 decision stated the requirement violates the Constitutional right to bear arms.
The ruling jeopardises similar restrictions in other states and expands gun rights.
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Great, even less gun laws in the US now
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I've always thought that the National Guard in each state were "...a well regulated militia".
But if they want to kill each other, that's their choice.
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