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Hope the queen is alright man that’s such a long time
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To be fair, most of that is compatible with free market conservatism. It is possible to argue coherently from those quotes to believe in a world beyond vapid materialism and to be generous and kind and commit to self sacrifice, while also making money.
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Personally, I don’t think it’s remotely coherent to argue that stockpiling wealth is Christian behaviour. Jesus was clear as clear can be on the issue.
I don’t think I’d argue he was a socialist. But he was a pacifist, a liberal, unprejudiced, and above all, a champion of brotherhood, self-sacrifice and selflessness.
He’d probably work for Amnesty if he was alive now.
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This is all drippy and simplistic, sorry.
Jesus was downright hostile to his followers at times. And some of his moral lessons were harsh and deeply antithetical to your outlook here.
You also are intentionally misrepresenting what I said - I never said stockpiling once.
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I wasn’t actually arguing with you or even passing comment on your assertion. I am aware that you weren’t talking about stockpiling.
Jesus was a pretty simple character. He was consistent, clear and transparent. He’s represented very consistently indeed by the various people who wrote about his words and actions. There isn’t a great degree of what he said that’s very open to interpretation, IMO.
There’s a reason why when Christians are arguing political differences, they’re almost always arising from the Old Testament and not about Jesus’s teachings.
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posted 8 minutes ago
Christianity is about personal moral choices, not advocating a system of governance or even opposing any concept of material wealth. So, I disagree with Rosso, respectfully.
With SoQ’s views, I would say while Christian Socialism is a political and religious movement, it is merely one of many interpretations.
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“Christianity is about personal moral choices, not advocating a system of governance...”
I agree with that. As I’ve said, I wouldn’t argue that Jesus was a socialist.
There’s just verse after verse after verse after verse where he talks very clearly about the evils of covetousness and personal and moral benefits of the eschewment of wealth though.
I guess in place of ‘personal’ I might have written ‘spiritual’.
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I should add while Rosso is here that Europe’s mess ups on vaccines have scuppered my visit to friends near Sintra
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Sintra is a fabulous place.
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posted 32 minutes ago
I should add while Rosso is here that Europe’s mess ups on vaccines have scuppered my visit to friends near Sintra
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Sorry to hear that.
I have a horrible feeling we have a fourth (third, really, but meh) wave coming here.
We’re opening up in stages, but they’re much shorter windows than the UK’s, and some council areas are going backwards already.
Portimão, the Algarve’s largest city and home to some of its most famous beaches, is going back into full lockdown next week: all cafes, restaurants and shops (barring essential retail) to close again and nobody to enter or leave the council area for at least a fortnight.
Albufeira’s case rate is on the way up and they’ve been told their current restrictions will remain when further easing happens elsewhere next week too. I was there a fortnight ago taking a friend to a medical appointment and the place was like a ghost town.
There isn’t going to be a recognisable summer season here.
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This is getting ridiculous now, swear everyone in government and friends of government have just made absolute riches from this pandemic
Anyone that’s made a big profit from this pandemic should be forced to give it away to people that have lost fortunes and people who have lost dead relatives before their time
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posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
Jesus did not endorse any contemporary political or social system at all, and render unto Caesar is an example of a lack of his political tendencies at the time too. You can be socialist and Christian, but also capitalist or conservative quite easily.
This article explains it well:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/no-jesus-was-not-a-socialist
“The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want,” says Jesus in Matthew 26:11 and Mark 14:7.
The key words there are you can help and want to help. He didn’t say, “We’re going to make you help whether you like it or not.”
Luke 12:13-15, Jesus is approached with a redistribution request. “Master, speak to my brother that he divideth the inheritance with me,” a man asks. Jesus replied, “Man, who made me a judge or divider over you?” Then he rebuked the petitioner for his envy.
Christianity is not about passing the buck to the government when it comes to relieving the plight of the poor. Caring for them, which means helping them overcome it, not paying them to stay poor or making them dependent upon the state, has been an essential fact in the life of a true Christian for 2,000 years. Christian charity, being voluntary and heartfelt, is utterly distinct from the compulsory, impersonal mandates of the state.
But don’t take my word for it. Consider what the apostle Paul says in 2 Corinthians 9:7: “Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.”
And in Jesus’s Parable of the Good Samaritan, the traveler is regarded as “good” because he personally helped the stricken man at the roadside with his own time and resources. If, instead, he had urged the helpless chap to wait for a government check to arrive, we would likely know him today as the Good-for-Nothing Samaritan.
Jesus clearly held that compassion is a wholesome value to possess, but I know of no passage in the New Testament that suggests it’s a value he’d impose by force or gunpoint — in other words, by socialist politics.
Socialists are fond of suggesting that Jesus disdained the rich, citing two particular moments: his driving of the money-changers from the Temple and his remark that it’s easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven. In the first instance, Jesus was angry that God’s house was being misused. Indeed, he never drove a money-changer from a bank or a marketplace. In the second, he was warning that with great wealth, great temptations come too.
These were admonitions against misplaced priorities, not class warfare messages.
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It's clear that Christianity is against forcing people to be compassionate so it's a good thing no one is doing that. Socialism is not a gun to the head, it's just a system of governance which it's subjects must adhere to or fall foul of the law that's in place. It's like saying paying taxes in capitalism is a gun to the head. It's not a gun to the head, it's part of the system which you must comply with, aka, giving to Caesar what is Caesar's. That renders the above comment pointless, if I can say so.
You can't use Christianity and bible verses to bash a political system, after starting off by saying "Jesus did not endorse any contemporary political or social system at all". So he didn't endorse a political system but it seems he bashed the hell out of socialism. Ok.
https://twitter.com/Jamie24272184/status/1383540840237207553
Pakistan - 5k cases a day, on the red list
India - 260k official, scientists estimate it’s actually 20-30 times higher due to lack of testing but best guess is at least 1 million a day. Not on the red list
Boris is a khunt, probably wants it to spread here again so we can prolong lockdown and keep test and trace buddies getting rich
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comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 8 hours, 52 minutes ago
I sympathise, and I should clarify it is more than just the mess ups on vaccines, the reality is this virus is unpredictable and I agree there remains much turbulence ahead. I wish the best for everyone on here and me delaying a trip to Sintra is low down the list of priorities here haha.
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You think you've got problems... I've got another year without a proper drink!!! πππ€¬
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Can you not sell one of your four homes and f!y to a pub beside Stamford Bridge in your private helicopter, now that you are marxist?ππ
Remember reading here how BLM creators were not marxist... and wealth such as owning 4 homes was an ineaquality and sign of privilege, until a self confessed BLM marxist buys up property and goes rabid capita!istπ
Also buying homes away from black Americans, no doubt to experience racism and privilege up c!oseππ
BLM are being funded by people and corporations, brainwashed and not challenged by fawning media and big tech.
Last year and in 2021, killings and violent crime is up in America, especially in Dem cities Chicago, LA, Phily, NY, Baltimore where BLM scared leaders into defunding police....imagine reducing policing and murder-crime increasing????
BLM, burning looting marxists.π²
Who knew that the black lives movement was her literally moving?
Confirmed UK cases of the Indian variant of Covid-19 have doubled in a week
Experts said the number of genetically-confirmed cases rose from 79 to 160
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posted 4 minutes ago
Who knew that the black lives movement was her literally moving?
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ππ
Watched the Tucker Carlson, Gregg Guttfield clips videos last night, and it is hilarious how some have behaved in the last twelve months, influenced by a mixture of BLM groupthink, big tech going partizan, media cowardice, woke weirdness and the acceptance of racism, if it is against white or conservative or libertarian peopleπ
Anyone questioning BLM policies or not thinking like BLM and big tech owners or the wokesters, was called racist, shut down, fired from jobs etc and individual freedom and thinking took another step backwards.
China tops g!obal pollution table, with 30% emisions, with America in second p!ace on around 13%!!!
When biden meets the chinese communist party, all chinese males, oppressing minorities and spreading Chinese colonialism worldwide, it will be a chance to shineπ
China might point out to Joe, American po!lution, treatment of border migrants and racism between white and black, or black and asian in America, or white and asian in the States?
If only biden did more than one press conference every 84 days, we could askπ
If Joe ain't there, he cannot sniff hair.....are dems hiding him away?π·π·π·π·π·π·
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posted on 17/4/21
73 years
26,645 days
Hope the queen is alright man that’s such a long time
posted on 17/4/21
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by rosso - can’t waste a day when the night brings a hearse (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
To be fair, most of that is compatible with free market conservatism. It is possible to argue coherently from those quotes to believe in a world beyond vapid materialism and to be generous and kind and commit to self sacrifice, while also making money.
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Personally, I don’t think it’s remotely coherent to argue that stockpiling wealth is Christian behaviour. Jesus was clear as clear can be on the issue.
I don’t think I’d argue he was a socialist. But he was a pacifist, a liberal, unprejudiced, and above all, a champion of brotherhood, self-sacrifice and selflessness.
He’d probably work for Amnesty if he was alive now.
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This is all drippy and simplistic, sorry.
Jesus was downright hostile to his followers at times. And some of his moral lessons were harsh and deeply antithetical to your outlook here.
You also are intentionally misrepresenting what I said - I never said stockpiling once.
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I wasn’t actually arguing with you or even passing comment on your assertion. I am aware that you weren’t talking about stockpiling.
Jesus was a pretty simple character. He was consistent, clear and transparent. He’s represented very consistently indeed by the various people who wrote about his words and actions. There isn’t a great degree of what he said that’s very open to interpretation, IMO.
There’s a reason why when Christians are arguing political differences, they’re almost always arising from the Old Testament and not about Jesus’s teachings.
posted on 17/4/21
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posted on 17/4/21
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 8 minutes ago
Christianity is about personal moral choices, not advocating a system of governance or even opposing any concept of material wealth. So, I disagree with Rosso, respectfully.
With SoQ’s views, I would say while Christian Socialism is a political and religious movement, it is merely one of many interpretations.
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“Christianity is about personal moral choices, not advocating a system of governance...”
I agree with that. As I’ve said, I wouldn’t argue that Jesus was a socialist.
There’s just verse after verse after verse after verse where he talks very clearly about the evils of covetousness and personal and moral benefits of the eschewment of wealth though.
posted on 17/4/21
I guess in place of ‘personal’ I might have written ‘spiritual’.
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comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 28 minutes ago
I should add while Rosso is here that Europe’s mess ups on vaccines have scuppered my visit to friends near Sintra
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Sintra is a fabulous place.
posted on 17/4/21
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 32 minutes ago
I should add while Rosso is here that Europe’s mess ups on vaccines have scuppered my visit to friends near Sintra
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Sorry to hear that.
I have a horrible feeling we have a fourth (third, really, but meh) wave coming here.
We’re opening up in stages, but they’re much shorter windows than the UK’s, and some council areas are going backwards already.
Portimão, the Algarve’s largest city and home to some of its most famous beaches, is going back into full lockdown next week: all cafes, restaurants and shops (barring essential retail) to close again and nobody to enter or leave the council area for at least a fortnight.
Albufeira’s case rate is on the way up and they’ve been told their current restrictions will remain when further easing happens elsewhere next week too. I was there a fortnight ago taking a friend to a medical appointment and the place was like a ghost town.
There isn’t going to be a recognisable summer season here.
posted on 17/4/21
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posted on 18/4/21
BREAKING: Boris Johnson’s senior advisor Eddie Lister owns shares in a company that has won £1m in government and NHS contracts since he joined No 10
Via
@MoS_Politics
————-
This is getting ridiculous now, swear everyone in government and friends of government have just made absolute riches from this pandemic
posted on 18/4/21
Anyone that’s made a big profit from this pandemic should be forced to give it away to people that have lost fortunes and people who have lost dead relatives before their time
posted on 18/4/21
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
Jesus did not endorse any contemporary political or social system at all, and render unto Caesar is an example of a lack of his political tendencies at the time too. You can be socialist and Christian, but also capitalist or conservative quite easily.
This article explains it well:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/no-jesus-was-not-a-socialist
“The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want,” says Jesus in Matthew 26:11 and Mark 14:7.
The key words there are you can help and want to help. He didn’t say, “We’re going to make you help whether you like it or not.”
Luke 12:13-15, Jesus is approached with a redistribution request. “Master, speak to my brother that he divideth the inheritance with me,” a man asks. Jesus replied, “Man, who made me a judge or divider over you?” Then he rebuked the petitioner for his envy.
Christianity is not about passing the buck to the government when it comes to relieving the plight of the poor. Caring for them, which means helping them overcome it, not paying them to stay poor or making them dependent upon the state, has been an essential fact in the life of a true Christian for 2,000 years. Christian charity, being voluntary and heartfelt, is utterly distinct from the compulsory, impersonal mandates of the state.
But don’t take my word for it. Consider what the apostle Paul says in 2 Corinthians 9:7: “Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.”
And in Jesus’s Parable of the Good Samaritan, the traveler is regarded as “good” because he personally helped the stricken man at the roadside with his own time and resources. If, instead, he had urged the helpless chap to wait for a government check to arrive, we would likely know him today as the Good-for-Nothing Samaritan.
Jesus clearly held that compassion is a wholesome value to possess, but I know of no passage in the New Testament that suggests it’s a value he’d impose by force or gunpoint — in other words, by socialist politics.
Socialists are fond of suggesting that Jesus disdained the rich, citing two particular moments: his driving of the money-changers from the Temple and his remark that it’s easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven. In the first instance, Jesus was angry that God’s house was being misused. Indeed, he never drove a money-changer from a bank or a marketplace. In the second, he was warning that with great wealth, great temptations come too.
These were admonitions against misplaced priorities, not class warfare messages.
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It's clear that Christianity is against forcing people to be compassionate so it's a good thing no one is doing that. Socialism is not a gun to the head, it's just a system of governance which it's subjects must adhere to or fall foul of the law that's in place. It's like saying paying taxes in capitalism is a gun to the head. It's not a gun to the head, it's part of the system which you must comply with, aka, giving to Caesar what is Caesar's. That renders the above comment pointless, if I can say so.
You can't use Christianity and bible verses to bash a political system, after starting off by saying "Jesus did not endorse any contemporary political or social system at all". So he didn't endorse a political system but it seems he bashed the hell out of socialism. Ok.
posted on 18/4/21
https://twitter.com/Jamie24272184/status/1383540840237207553
posted on 18/4/21
posted on 18/4/21
Pakistan - 5k cases a day, on the red list
India - 260k official, scientists estimate it’s actually 20-30 times higher due to lack of testing but best guess is at least 1 million a day. Not on the red list
Boris is a khunt, probably wants it to spread here again so we can prolong lockdown and keep test and trace buddies getting rich
posted on 18/4/21
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comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 8 hours, 52 minutes ago
I sympathise, and I should clarify it is more than just the mess ups on vaccines, the reality is this virus is unpredictable and I agree there remains much turbulence ahead. I wish the best for everyone on here and me delaying a trip to Sintra is low down the list of priorities here haha.
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You think you've got problems... I've got another year without a proper drink!!! πππ€¬
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Can you not sell one of your four homes and f!y to a pub beside Stamford Bridge in your private helicopter, now that you are marxist?ππ
Remember reading here how BLM creators were not marxist... and wealth such as owning 4 homes was an ineaquality and sign of privilege, until a self confessed BLM marxist buys up property and goes rabid capita!istπ
Also buying homes away from black Americans, no doubt to experience racism and privilege up c!oseππ
BLM are being funded by people and corporations, brainwashed and not challenged by fawning media and big tech.
Last year and in 2021, killings and violent crime is up in America, especially in Dem cities Chicago, LA, Phily, NY, Baltimore where BLM scared leaders into defunding police....imagine reducing policing and murder-crime increasing????
BLM, burning looting marxists.π²
posted on 18/4/21
Who knew that the black lives movement was her literally moving?
posted on 18/4/21
Confirmed UK cases of the Indian variant of Covid-19 have doubled in a week
Experts said the number of genetically-confirmed cases rose from 79 to 160
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
Who knew that the black lives movement was her literally moving?
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ππ
Watched the Tucker Carlson, Gregg Guttfield clips videos last night, and it is hilarious how some have behaved in the last twelve months, influenced by a mixture of BLM groupthink, big tech going partizan, media cowardice, woke weirdness and the acceptance of racism, if it is against white or conservative or libertarian peopleπ
Anyone questioning BLM policies or not thinking like BLM and big tech owners or the wokesters, was called racist, shut down, fired from jobs etc and individual freedom and thinking took another step backwards.
posted on 18/4/21
China tops g!obal pollution table, with 30% emisions, with America in second p!ace on around 13%!!!
When biden meets the chinese communist party, all chinese males, oppressing minorities and spreading Chinese colonialism worldwide, it will be a chance to shineπ
China might point out to Joe, American po!lution, treatment of border migrants and racism between white and black, or black and asian in America, or white and asian in the States?
If only biden did more than one press conference every 84 days, we could askπ
If Joe ain't there, he cannot sniff hair.....are dems hiding him away?π·π·π·π·π·π·
posted on 18/4/21
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