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Aussies fock dingos too... I wont be using them as an ethical guide.
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comment by Dave NotSo #savetheasses (U11711)
posted 5 hours, 56 minutes ago
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comment by Onan the Barbarian (U1552)
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comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 6 hours, 29 minutes ago
The Sainsbury vegan cheese seems great to me, but maybe I forgot what real cheese tastes like! give it a try though, even my food snob brother in law loves it.
Yea, the price of lab grown meat is really coming down... People turn their nose up at it, but I bet the conditions are alot cleaner than most farms!
I think it shows how far we've come in a few years that this conversation can even take place in a football forum (until Stretty arrives, at least)
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Spot on. I'd have no trouble at all eating lab meat. Indeed it should be the future.
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By "lab", I take it you mean Labrador.
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Korean BBQ style.
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Actually, Indonesia is where labs are really most popular. They leave some fur on the meat to show what colour dog it comes from. Yellow labs are apparently the most delicious and therefore most expensive in a soup.
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Trust you to know dave! A man of your widely traveled self has bound to have seen these sort of sights. I saw some of it in my Asian adventures, thankfully not on a menu though. Seeing the dogs and cats piled high in crates awaiting purchase was pretty horrid at times.
Seeing the dogs and cats piled high in crates awaiting purchase was pretty horrid at times.
That was one of the first things I saw when I went to Hanoi, a cage cram full of dogs being towed by a motorbike.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Seeing the dogs and cats piled high in crates awaiting purchase was pretty horrid at times.
That was one of the first things I saw when I went to Hanoi, a cage cram full of dogs being towed by a motorbike.
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Loved 'nam. But hated that part.
Vietnam is nothing compared to how it was just a decade or so ago (from what those who went a while ago have described).
I went recently and it's pretty rubbish, the most touristy country I've ever been to, can't walk 30 seconds without seeing a tacky hotel or having someone begging to rip you off.
Apparently it was amazing in the past though.
I went about 7 years ago, thought it was brilliant.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
I went about 7 years ago, thought it was brilliant.
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I went two years ago now and travelled around a lot of it, some bits were nice but anywhere that was even remotely on the tourist map was fecked. The amount of building going on was insane, you could tell not long before it would have been a completely different place but it's well on its way to becoming some sort of tacky tourism only country which is a shame - obviously being a tourist I was part of the problem .
I went from Hanoi to Bangkok overland and crammed it in to 3 weeks so I didn't really spend the long in Vietnam.
Loved Hanoi and Hoi An, HCMC was nothing special imo. Great people throughout the country though provide a lasting memory.
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
I went about 7 years ago, thought it was brilliant.
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I went two years ago now and travelled around a lot of it, some bits were nice but anywhere that was even remotely on the tourist map was fecked. The amount of building going on was insane, you could tell not long before it would have been a completely different place but it's well on its way to becoming some sort of tacky tourism only country which is a shame - obviously being a tourist I was part of the problem.
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It's becoming Thailand.
That said, the vistas and scenery are jaw dropping.its a staggeringly beautiful place. Outside the population centres.
If you want 'authentic' SE Asia then I think there's only Laos and Burma/Myanmar left.
Pretty untouched by tourism (apart from Vang Vieng in Laos), still places to go for the pioneering traveller.
Crazily I found Thailand far less touristy than Vietnam, that's how bad Vietnam had become! Some parts were still great though
Bhutan seems pretty interesting in that they've already put in place measures to limit tourism and building in general. Anyone been there?
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 45 minutes ago
If you want 'authentic' SE Asia then I think there's only Laos and Burma/Myanmar left.
Pretty untouched by tourism (apart from Vang Vieng in Laos), still places to go for the pioneering traveller.
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Vang vine was touristy when I was there. The whole town was tourist orientanted, but still quaint. An awesome place though, meeting and the bars a lot of fun. Siem ripe despite the 5 star hotels with helicopter pads was cool, as was hoi an in nam. The beach from there was lush.
.....as was hoi an in nam. The beach from there was lush.
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I went in January so the beach was empty as it was chilly. Hired a bike for the mammoth 2km journey, fantastic cycling through the paddy fields shouting "Hello" at the women working there, brilliant when they all wave back and laugh.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
.....as was hoi an in nam. The beach from there was lush.
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I went in January so the beach was empty as it was chilly. Hired a bike for the mammoth 2km journey, fantastic cycling through the paddy fields shouting "Hello" at the women working there, brilliant when they all wave back and laugh.
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I remember doing a bike ride in a place inland with all the famous caves when a flash flood style storm came in. Some nice locals let us take cover in their house (laughing at us obviously) - was great
People don't realise that farming wheat, vegetables etc also contributed to the death of rodents, snakes, insects and lots of other wildlife all over the world.
Of course vegans choose to ignore that the carrot they just ate caused the death of a rabbit.
There's plenty of land for us to rear healthy, happy cattle and other animals. The important thing is we as a race look after the planet and the animals we choose to eat.
You want to live like a hippy? Grow your own food and rear your own meat.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 minutes ago
People don't realise that farming wheat, vegetables etc also contributed to the death of rodents, snakes, insects and lots of other wildlife all over the world.
Of course vegans choose to ignore that the carrot they just ate caused the death of a rabbit.
There's plenty of land for us to rear healthy, happy cattle and other animals. The important thing is we as a race look after the planet and the animals we choose to eat.
You want to live like a hippy? Grow your own food and rear your own meat.
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I'm not a vegan or vegetarian but I'm just going to call your opinion out as at best uninformed and in truth simply moronic.
Please research the subject before chiming in...
Veganism isn't about perfection... perfection is impossible.
It's about minimising the suffering of animals in every way we can.
Can't even be assed with the other nonsense in that post.
Sign in if you want to comment
Animals cannot feel pain or emotion.
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Aussies fock dingos too... I wont be using them as an ethical guide.
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comment by Dave NotSo #savetheasses (U11711)
posted 5 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 17 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Onan the Barbarian (U1552)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 6 hours, 29 minutes ago
The Sainsbury vegan cheese seems great to me, but maybe I forgot what real cheese tastes like! give it a try though, even my food snob brother in law loves it.
Yea, the price of lab grown meat is really coming down... People turn their nose up at it, but I bet the conditions are alot cleaner than most farms!
I think it shows how far we've come in a few years that this conversation can even take place in a football forum (until Stretty arrives, at least)
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Spot on. I'd have no trouble at all eating lab meat. Indeed it should be the future.
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By "lab", I take it you mean Labrador.
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Korean BBQ style.
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Actually, Indonesia is where labs are really most popular. They leave some fur on the meat to show what colour dog it comes from. Yellow labs are apparently the most delicious and therefore most expensive in a soup.
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Trust you to know dave! A man of your widely traveled self has bound to have seen these sort of sights. I saw some of it in my Asian adventures, thankfully not on a menu though. Seeing the dogs and cats piled high in crates awaiting purchase was pretty horrid at times.
posted on 22/11/17
Seeing the dogs and cats piled high in crates awaiting purchase was pretty horrid at times.
That was one of the first things I saw when I went to Hanoi, a cage cram full of dogs being towed by a motorbike.
posted on 22/11/17
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Seeing the dogs and cats piled high in crates awaiting purchase was pretty horrid at times.
That was one of the first things I saw when I went to Hanoi, a cage cram full of dogs being towed by a motorbike.
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Loved 'nam. But hated that part.
posted on 22/11/17
Vietnam is nothing compared to how it was just a decade or so ago (from what those who went a while ago have described).
I went recently and it's pretty rubbish, the most touristy country I've ever been to, can't walk 30 seconds without seeing a tacky hotel or having someone begging to rip you off.
Apparently it was amazing in the past though.
posted on 22/11/17
I went about 7 years ago, thought it was brilliant.
posted on 22/11/17
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
I went about 7 years ago, thought it was brilliant.
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I went two years ago now and travelled around a lot of it, some bits were nice but anywhere that was even remotely on the tourist map was fecked. The amount of building going on was insane, you could tell not long before it would have been a completely different place but it's well on its way to becoming some sort of tacky tourism only country which is a shame - obviously being a tourist I was part of the problem .
posted on 22/11/17
I went from Hanoi to Bangkok overland and crammed it in to 3 weeks so I didn't really spend the long in Vietnam.
Loved Hanoi and Hoi An, HCMC was nothing special imo. Great people throughout the country though provide a lasting memory.
posted on 22/11/17
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
I went about 7 years ago, thought it was brilliant.
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I went two years ago now and travelled around a lot of it, some bits were nice but anywhere that was even remotely on the tourist map was fecked. The amount of building going on was insane, you could tell not long before it would have been a completely different place but it's well on its way to becoming some sort of tacky tourism only country which is a shame - obviously being a tourist I was part of the problem.
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It's becoming Thailand.
That said, the vistas and scenery are jaw dropping.its a staggeringly beautiful place. Outside the population centres.
posted on 22/11/17
If you want 'authentic' SE Asia then I think there's only Laos and Burma/Myanmar left.
Pretty untouched by tourism (apart from Vang Vieng in Laos), still places to go for the pioneering traveller.
posted on 22/11/17
Crazily I found Thailand far less touristy than Vietnam, that's how bad Vietnam had become! Some parts were still great though
Bhutan seems pretty interesting in that they've already put in place measures to limit tourism and building in general. Anyone been there?
posted on 22/11/17
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 45 minutes ago
If you want 'authentic' SE Asia then I think there's only Laos and Burma/Myanmar left.
Pretty untouched by tourism (apart from Vang Vieng in Laos), still places to go for the pioneering traveller.
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Vang vine was touristy when I was there. The whole town was tourist orientanted, but still quaint. An awesome place though, meeting and the bars a lot of fun. Siem ripe despite the 5 star hotels with helicopter pads was cool, as was hoi an in nam. The beach from there was lush.
posted on 22/11/17
.....as was hoi an in nam. The beach from there was lush.
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I went in January so the beach was empty as it was chilly. Hired a bike for the mammoth 2km journey, fantastic cycling through the paddy fields shouting "Hello" at the women working there, brilliant when they all wave back and laugh.
posted on 22/11/17
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
.....as was hoi an in nam. The beach from there was lush.
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I went in January so the beach was empty as it was chilly. Hired a bike for the mammoth 2km journey, fantastic cycling through the paddy fields shouting "Hello" at the women working there, brilliant when they all wave back and laugh.
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I remember doing a bike ride in a place inland with all the famous caves when a flash flood style storm came in. Some nice locals let us take cover in their house (laughing at us obviously) - was great
posted on 23/11/17
People don't realise that farming wheat, vegetables etc also contributed to the death of rodents, snakes, insects and lots of other wildlife all over the world.
Of course vegans choose to ignore that the carrot they just ate caused the death of a rabbit.
There's plenty of land for us to rear healthy, happy cattle and other animals. The important thing is we as a race look after the planet and the animals we choose to eat.
You want to live like a hippy? Grow your own food and rear your own meat.
posted on 23/11/17
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 minutes ago
People don't realise that farming wheat, vegetables etc also contributed to the death of rodents, snakes, insects and lots of other wildlife all over the world.
Of course vegans choose to ignore that the carrot they just ate caused the death of a rabbit.
There's plenty of land for us to rear healthy, happy cattle and other animals. The important thing is we as a race look after the planet and the animals we choose to eat.
You want to live like a hippy? Grow your own food and rear your own meat.
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I'm not a vegan or vegetarian but I'm just going to call your opinion out as at best uninformed and in truth simply moronic.
Please research the subject before chiming in...
posted on 23/11/17
Veganism isn't about perfection... perfection is impossible.
It's about minimising the suffering of animals in every way we can.
Can't even be assed with the other nonsense in that post.
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