comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 second ago
I watched it on Beinsports, Danny higginbotham spent the whole 1st half telling everyone how Klopp has transformed Moreno and how he cut out all the mistakes
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All the games this season before this one pointed to that. He can have ten good games and then one bad and suddenly he's a liability again. Some fans are very fickle.
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So he hasn't cut out all the mistakes then?

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 2 seconds ago
Why have you stuck with him all these years? He's always been an accident waiting to happen.
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He's been our best defender this season to be fair.
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It's like saying he's the tallest dwarf

Individual mistakes = players like lovren, moreno and mignolet are not good enough. Thats essentially it.

Over a season they make far too many individual mistakes.

Wouldn't it be more fickle to suggest he's no longer a liability because he suddenly managed ten games without being one?

I thought he’d turned his Liverpool career around

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
And that GB clown was telling us how great your defence is only 3 days ago

What a clown
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And you’re a bigger clown for getting sucked in by him.....

Yeah blame one player for going from 3-0 to 3-3, yeah, just one player.

Can't defend for toffee. Poor poor poor

comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 second ago
I watched it on Beinsports, Danny higginbotham spent the whole 1st half telling everyone how Klopp has transformed Moreno and how he cut out all the mistakes
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All the games this season before this one pointed to that. He can have ten good games and then one bad and suddenly he's a liability again. Some fans are very fickle.
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So he hasn't cut out all the mistakes then?
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He had before this game. It's like a striker scoring in ten matches in a row and then failing to score in the next and you say he's not scoring goals this season.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
And that GB clown was telling us how great your defence is only 3 days ago

What a clown
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And you’re a bigger clown for getting sucked in by him.....
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He speaks for most scousers Tbf.

Deluded

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
And that GB clown was telling us how great your defence is only 3 days ago

What a clown
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And you’re a bigger clown for getting sucked in by him.....
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He’s a bigger clown just by existing

Everyone loves a scapegoat

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 second ago
I watched it on Beinsports, Danny higginbotham spent the whole 1st half telling everyone how Klopp has transformed Moreno and how he cut out all the mistakes
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All the games this season before this one pointed to that. He can have ten good games and then one bad and suddenly he's a liability again. Some fans are very fickle.
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I don’t think it’s fickle to suggest that he lacks a big game mentality. This was arguably our most crucial game so far this season, and it’s no coincidence that Moreno had his worst game, and reverted back to the Moreno of the EL final, is it?

comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wouldn't it be more fickle to suggest he's no longer a liability because he suddenly managed ten games without being one?
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Yeah it coukd be, if you change the meaning of fickle.

He has turned a corner...now hes back where he started!

He had before this game. It's like a striker scoring in ten matches in a row and then failing to score in the next and you say he's not scoring goals this season.

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That's a stupid analogy.

More reasonable would be like saying Taibi had a few games where he made some saves and then reverted to type.

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
And that GB clown was telling us how great your defence is only 3 days ago

What a clown
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And you’re a bigger clown for getting sucked in by him.....
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He speaks for most scousers Tbf.

Deluded
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He really doesn’t. You’re just being silly now....

The clue is in his name sounding like a Spanish translation of the word 'Moron'.

In fairness to the lad, it wasn't just Moreno at fault. He made stupid mistakes, the opposition made hay out of it, diving at every turn, Emre's yellow was a joke.

Whither Alberto? One bad, at times very bad game, no doubt. But drop him? Bring in Robertson, who didn't even make the bench? Don't be surprised if Klopp sticks with him.

One bright spark throughout the game? Step forward, Lovren, he put in a real challenge at every opportunity, taking no prisoners.

But that second half was surrender by the Reds, they gave Saville the game on a plate.

JimmyTheRed

No not really. Thinking Moreno isn't a liability because of a few games where he wasn't would be fickle. Or stupid. Take your pick.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 second ago
I watched it on Beinsports, Danny higginbotham spent the whole 1st half telling everyone how Klopp has transformed Moreno and how he cut out all the mistakes
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All the games this season before this one pointed to that. He can have ten good games and then one bad and suddenly he's a liability again. Some fans are very fickle.
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I don’t think it’s fickle to suggest that he lacks a big game mentality. This was arguably our most crucial game so far this season, and it’s no coincidence that Moreno had his worst game, and reverted back to the Moreno of the EL final, is it?
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Possibly not. The issue with him has always been his maturity and game intelligence. If he continues like tonight he will be gone at the end of the season. If he continues like he has before this game he'll be kept and hopefully continue to improve.

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 second ago
I watched it on Beinsports, Danny higginbotham spent the whole 1st half telling everyone how Klopp has transformed Moreno and how he cut out all the mistakes
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All the games this season before this one pointed to that. He can have ten good games and then one bad and suddenly he's a liability again. Some fans are very fickle.
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So he hasn't cut out all the mistakes then?
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He had before this game. It's like a striker scoring in ten matches in a row and then failing to score in the next and you say he's not scoring goals this season.

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No it's not, it's like a striker not scoring for ten games then bagging a hat trick in the 11th and saying, I told you he was class

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 30 seconds ago
The clue is in his name sounding like a Spanish translation of the word 'Moron'.
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Idiota sounds nothing like Moreno....

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 30 seconds ago
The clue is in his name sounding like a Spanish translation of the word 'Moron'.
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Idiota sounds nothing like Moreno....
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Well excuse me for not knowing Spanish

comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
No not really. Thinking Moreno isn't a liability because of a few games where he wasn't would be fickle. Or stupid. Take your pick.
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If you're gonna use one game over all the others he's had this season and determine that it makes you more fickle to go with the the rest of the season, then that's up to you. Personally I don't give a crap what you think, to be completely honest.

I'm gonna say he's had a good season and then had one poor game and thus I'm gonna give him a chance. Others can feel how they like.

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 second ago
I watched it on Beinsports, Danny higginbotham spent the whole 1st half telling everyone how Klopp has transformed Moreno and how he cut out all the mistakes
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All the games this season before this one pointed to that. He can have ten good games and then one bad and suddenly he's a liability again. Some fans are very fickle.
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I don’t think it’s fickle to suggest that he lacks a big game mentality. This was arguably our most crucial game so far this season, and it’s no coincidence that Moreno had his worst game, and reverted back to the Moreno of the EL final, is it?
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Possibly not. The issue with him has always been his maturity and game intelligence. If he continues like tonight he will be gone at the end of the season. If he continues like he has before this game he'll be kept and hopefully continue to improve.
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I wanted him gone at the end of last season, but am happy to admit he’s done well before tonight. By the big question for me is would you see a proper top class defender doing what Moreno did tonight? The answer has to be no, which is why imo, he needs to go.