Hazards world class
Salah is fantastic in a brilliant run of form
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Let's break it down
Strength.......Hazard > Salah
Speed ........ Salah > Hazard
Speed (with the ball) Hazard > Salah
Sprinting ......Salah > Hazard
Touch and Technique....Hazard > Salah
Running fast........Salah > Hazard
Passing range......Hazard > Salah
Legging it ........Salah > Hazard
Dribbling........Hazard > Salah
Going like the clappers.....Salah > Hazard
Vision and awareness.....Hazard > Salah
Hazard wins
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'Going like the clappers', 'legging it', christ, could you be more obvious.
Maybe its worth recalling when legging it, and going like the clappers, he usually ends up putting the ball into the back of the net.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 minutes ago
How many points have Salah's goals and assists won in comparison to Hazard's at Chelsea?
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goals and assist are not the only things that win games, they are on their own, a far too narrow way form to evaluate/measure a player
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True, but is shows, in figures, who is having the bigger impact on winning points for their team at this moment in time. I think Salah wins, hands down. It's a results and points business, not who can dribble better, who can pass better etc. Salah is doing the business better than what Hazard is.
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hazards world class
Salah is fantastic in a brilliant run of form
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comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
Hazards world class
Salah is fantastic in a brilliant run of form
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Oh right, so this just a good run hes on ?
That a little dismissive isnt it.
I seem to recall the same thing being said about Harry Kane.
Oh he decent, but just having a run of form.
Well as I said earlier, Eden Hazard went 30 odd games without scoring, as his team plummeted toward the foot of the table, so maybe conversely, that was just a very long dip in form, for a 'world class' player.
Salah's "form" has lasted the best part of 3 years now, since his move to AS Roma virtually. But he was good 2 seasons ago and excellent last season and so far in this one.
Judge him at the end of the season
Salah is my favourite player after phil
I'm not being dismissive at all
Hazard is just world class, you can't ignore that. Teams tactically take turns first fouling him then taking a booking just to keep him quiet
comment by kiki sharayman (U21705)
posted 8 seconds ago
Judge him at the end of the season
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Fair enough.
But to be fair, even if he were only to score another 6 or 7 goals this season, he will still probably outscore Hazard from a wide position, surrounded by somewhat inferior players for the most part.
Hazards probably the better player. But Salah is not far behind and improving rapidly......wheras Hazard isn't really improving of you ask me.
Time will tell......numbers will prove salah to be the better player if he can keep up a good level of performance and end product for the full season. Seeing as he was aweaome in italy.
Harry kane for example, without his numbers over the last few seasons he is no where near as good as Hazard, but with them......
Didnt Hazard miss the first 8 weeks or so?
Salah, by a distance
Hazard is just world class, you can't ignore that.
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Nobody is ignoring is ability, but also, some people are also guilty of ignoring the many games were he is also ineffective.
Not many truly world class attacking talents go nearly a full year without scoring a goal, so maybe a little measure should be taken, before bestowing such titles on players.
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
Makes me chuckle people who go on about the one season where hazard didn't do much. Totally ignoring that after mourinho left it came out he was injured all year and Jose was forcibly playing him.
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
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I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
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I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
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I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 minutes ago
How many points have Salah's goals and assists won in comparison to Hazard's at Chelsea?
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goals and assist are not the only things that win games, they are on their own, a far too narrow way form to evaluate/measure a player
-----------------------------------------------------
True, but is shows, in figures, who is having the bigger impact on winning points for their team at this moment in time. I think Salah wins, hands down. It's a results and points business, not who can dribble better, who can pass better etc. Salah is doing the business better than what Hazard is.
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what about the impact that Hazard has on the opposition, the number of players he takes with him leaving space for others, the number of fouls he receives the number of free kicks he wins, the way he can take the pressure of our defense by switching us from nearly conceding to nearly scoring and turn the momentum of the match.
despite Salah's excellent form i guarrantee you that Hazard is the player that gives opposition more nightmares and more problems.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
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I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
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I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
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When i hear people claim Conte is a defensive coach, i can only assume they are stereotyping.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
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I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
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I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
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Having a free role doesn’t make much of a difference. At City or Liverpool or at some big club outside the PL he’d be scoring a lot more goals.
comment by TLLL ★ (U4640)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
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Having a free role doesn’t make much of a difference. At City or Liverpool or at some big club outside the PL he’d be scoring a lot more goals.
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Why would he? What way would he play differently for City or Liverpool that would make him more effective at scoring goals?
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
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He does indeed have a free role but he looks up and sees Morata. And that’s about it. They’re excellent at their jobs but Alonso, Kante, Bakayoko, Moses/Zappacosta. Yesterday Drinkwater as well.
It’s not quite the same as the likes of Isco, Ronaldo, Bale etc. In fact any of RM, Barca, PSG, City. And Hazard is good enough for any of those teams.
With Chelsea Hazard is the main threat and so the main source of attention. Wouldn’t be the case in other teams.
Free role is great but it wasn’t actually the point I was making.
Both teams are more attacking then us. They dominate games in midfield. They commit a lot more bodies forward when they attack. They defend from the front (press up top) which leads to a lot more chances.
We play on the counter. The little possession we usually get in big games comes from our defenders passing the ball around in defence. We hardly ever dominate these big games. A problem we’ve had long before Jose’s 2nd spell.
At Chelsea Hazard has to start attacks from his own half. At City or Pool he’d be a lot closer to goal that is for sure.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you misunderstood the post
Hazard is so overrated it's unreal.
Talented player, but his stats are poor for a so-called world-class player. His assists are miles behind the likes of Messi & Özil. His chances created are a long way off Özil & Silva etc.
He doesn't impress for Belgium either and his 2015-16 season was a debacle - literally went AWOL for a whole season.
despite Salah's excellent form i guarrantee you that Hazard is the player that gives opposition more nightmares and more problems.
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Theres no bigger 'nightmare', or 'problem', than seeing the ball in the back of your own net, and pretty regularly this season, that where the balls ended up when Salah is running toward opposition defenders.
Obviously chasing Hazard diagonally across a pitch, isnt much fun, but for me, Salah is much more direct, runs straight at defenders, and their goal, and as a consequence is much more dangerous as a result,
which is highlighted by how many goals hes scored already this season
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posted on 26/11/17
Hazards world class
Salah is fantastic in a brilliant run of form
posted on 26/11/17
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Let's break it down
Strength.......Hazard > Salah
Speed ........ Salah > Hazard
Speed (with the ball) Hazard > Salah
Sprinting ......Salah > Hazard
Touch and Technique....Hazard > Salah
Running fast........Salah > Hazard
Passing range......Hazard > Salah
Legging it ........Salah > Hazard
Dribbling........Hazard > Salah
Going like the clappers.....Salah > Hazard
Vision and awareness.....Hazard > Salah
Hazard wins
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'Going like the clappers', 'legging it', christ, could you be more obvious.
Maybe its worth recalling when legging it, and going like the clappers, he usually ends up putting the ball into the back of the net.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 minutes ago
How many points have Salah's goals and assists won in comparison to Hazard's at Chelsea?
----------------------------------------------------
goals and assist are not the only things that win games, they are on their own, a far too narrow way form to evaluate/measure a player
-----------------------------------------------------
True, but is shows, in figures, who is having the bigger impact on winning points for their team at this moment in time. I think Salah wins, hands down. It's a results and points business, not who can dribble better, who can pass better etc. Salah is doing the business better than what Hazard is.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hazards world class
Salah is fantastic in a brilliant run of form
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posted on 26/11/17
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
Hazards world class
Salah is fantastic in a brilliant run of form
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Oh right, so this just a good run hes on ?
That a little dismissive isnt it.
I seem to recall the same thing being said about Harry Kane.
Oh he decent, but just having a run of form.
Well as I said earlier, Eden Hazard went 30 odd games without scoring, as his team plummeted toward the foot of the table, so maybe conversely, that was just a very long dip in form, for a 'world class' player.
posted on 26/11/17
Salah's "form" has lasted the best part of 3 years now, since his move to AS Roma virtually. But he was good 2 seasons ago and excellent last season and so far in this one.
posted on 26/11/17
Judge him at the end of the season
posted on 26/11/17
Salah is my favourite player after phil
I'm not being dismissive at all
Hazard is just world class, you can't ignore that. Teams tactically take turns first fouling him then taking a booking just to keep him quiet
posted on 26/11/17
comment by kiki sharayman (U21705)
posted 8 seconds ago
Judge him at the end of the season
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Fair enough.
But to be fair, even if he were only to score another 6 or 7 goals this season, he will still probably outscore Hazard from a wide position, surrounded by somewhat inferior players for the most part.
posted on 26/11/17
Hazards probably the better player. But Salah is not far behind and improving rapidly......wheras Hazard isn't really improving of you ask me.
Time will tell......numbers will prove salah to be the better player if he can keep up a good level of performance and end product for the full season. Seeing as he was aweaome in italy.
Harry kane for example, without his numbers over the last few seasons he is no where near as good as Hazard, but with them......
posted on 26/11/17
Didnt Hazard miss the first 8 weeks or so?
Salah, by a distance
posted on 26/11/17
Hazard is just world class, you can't ignore that.
====================================
Nobody is ignoring is ability, but also, some people are also guilty of ignoring the many games were he is also ineffective.
Not many truly world class attacking talents go nearly a full year without scoring a goal, so maybe a little measure should be taken, before bestowing such titles on players.
posted on 26/11/17
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
posted on 26/11/17
Makes me chuckle people who go on about the one season where hazard didn't do much. Totally ignoring that after mourinho left it came out he was injured all year and Jose was forcibly playing him.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
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I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
posted on 26/11/17
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 minutes ago
How many points have Salah's goals and assists won in comparison to Hazard's at Chelsea?
----------------------------------------------------
goals and assist are not the only things that win games, they are on their own, a far too narrow way form to evaluate/measure a player
-----------------------------------------------------
True, but is shows, in figures, who is having the bigger impact on winning points for their team at this moment in time. I think Salah wins, hands down. It's a results and points business, not who can dribble better, who can pass better etc. Salah is doing the business better than what Hazard is.
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what about the impact that Hazard has on the opposition, the number of players he takes with him leaving space for others, the number of fouls he receives the number of free kicks he wins, the way he can take the pressure of our defense by switching us from nearly conceding to nearly scoring and turn the momentum of the match.
despite Salah's excellent form i guarrantee you that Hazard is the player that gives opposition more nightmares and more problems.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When i hear people claim Conte is a defensive coach, i can only assume they are stereotyping.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having a free role doesn’t make much of a difference. At City or Liverpool or at some big club outside the PL he’d be scoring a lot more goals.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by TLLL ★ (U4640)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having a free role doesn’t make much of a difference. At City or Liverpool or at some big club outside the PL he’d be scoring a lot more goals.
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Why would he? What way would he play differently for City or Liverpool that would make him more effective at scoring goals?
posted on 26/11/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He does indeed have a free role but he looks up and sees Morata. And that’s about it. They’re excellent at their jobs but Alonso, Kante, Bakayoko, Moses/Zappacosta. Yesterday Drinkwater as well.
It’s not quite the same as the likes of Isco, Ronaldo, Bale etc. In fact any of RM, Barca, PSG, City. And Hazard is good enough for any of those teams.
With Chelsea Hazard is the main threat and so the main source of attention. Wouldn’t be the case in other teams.
Free role is great but it wasn’t actually the point I was making.
posted on 26/11/17
Both teams are more attacking then us. They dominate games in midfield. They commit a lot more bodies forward when they attack. They defend from the front (press up top) which leads to a lot more chances.
We play on the counter. The little possession we usually get in big games comes from our defenders passing the ball around in defence. We hardly ever dominate these big games. A problem we’ve had long before Jose’s 2nd spell.
At Chelsea Hazard has to start attacks from his own half. At City or Pool he’d be a lot closer to goal that is for sure.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hazard is the better player, Salah has had the better start to the season imo.
This isn’t supposed to be an insult and I say it out of admiration for Hazard’s ability. I’d genuinely like to see what Hazard is capable of with a range of attacking options in a team. What he would do with an Isco, Bale, Ronaldo around him. Or a Neymar and a Mbappe.
Chelsea win and ultimately that’s what football is about but I can’t imagine playing for Mourinho and Conte is a barrel of laughs for an attacking talent of his magnitude.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was going to say the same
He'd get fouled a lot less and be more protected by the refs too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really do wonder if people watch football at all
Hazard has a free role under Conte, he has almost no defensive responsibilities and can float all over the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you misunderstood the post
posted on 26/11/17
Hazard is so overrated it's unreal.
Talented player, but his stats are poor for a so-called world-class player. His assists are miles behind the likes of Messi & Özil. His chances created are a long way off Özil & Silva etc.
He doesn't impress for Belgium either and his 2015-16 season was a debacle - literally went AWOL for a whole season.
posted on 26/11/17
despite Salah's excellent form i guarrantee you that Hazard is the player that gives opposition more nightmares and more problems.
=====================================
Theres no bigger 'nightmare', or 'problem', than seeing the ball in the back of your own net, and pretty regularly this season, that where the balls ended up when Salah is running toward opposition defenders.
Obviously chasing Hazard diagonally across a pitch, isnt much fun, but for me, Salah is much more direct, runs straight at defenders, and their goal, and as a consequence is much more dangerous as a result,
which is highlighted by how many goals hes scored already this season
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