comment by No love - I assume I have the misfortune of speaking to my mother. (U1282)
posted 30 minutes ago
You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure.
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What a load of crap
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Excellent contribution. There's simply no beginning to your talents
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 5 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 11 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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Some would say this is rather ignorant of him.
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You may well spend all day on an Internet forum, but I have a variety of better things to do for the larger part of my time. This forum is just a throwaway distraction for occasional idle moments.
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Answering one poster’s question without answering a previously asked question by another poster may be considered ignorant.
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I do apologise if I missed one of your posts, there is quite a lot of dross from posters who are not myself to filter through. Pease post again if it troubles you so much that I didn't respond, and I'll have a read.
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It wasn’t even my post. If you want to avoid reading through all the dross then I suggest you start deleting your own comments
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Presumably you also still rely heavily on the incisive retort, "I know you are but what am I?".
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by milkwasabadchoice (U10056)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fields I very much doubt it'll be "interesting"
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Said with tongue firmly in cheek.
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I know you did, he's yet to post anything interesting
So we’ll have to put up with this idiot being on here during the summer whilst VVD isn’t playing and then come the start of the season he’ll disappear again.
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
“I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.”
So go on then. Tell us what VVD should’ve done to meet your expectations?
This should be interesting.
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I've already explained the nature of some elements of why he fell short, by inference the point would be that if he did not fall short in these ways, his performance would have been better. Obviously I can elaborate further, but the quality and intellect of the current suite of responses hardly justifies the effort.
comment by KLS: Fekir that, have you seen his knee scan! (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
So we’ll have to put up with this idiot being on here during the summer whilst VVD isn’t playing and then come the start of the season he’ll disappear again.
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Unfortunately VVDs nation didn't reach the world cup, it's the worst pool of players they've had for a long time.
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
“I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.”
So go on then. Tell us what VVD should’ve done to meet your expectations?
This should be interesting.
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I've already explained the nature of some elements of why he fell short, by inference the point would be that if he did not fall short in these ways, his performance would have been better. Obviously I can elaborate further, but the quality and intellect of the current suite of responses hardly justifies the effort.
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Was VVD at fault for any of the 3 goals conceded?
Did VVD commit defensive errors during the match?
Was VVD troubled by Real Madrid’s forward players during the match?
The consensus was he, and the rest of our defence for that matter, had a good game against the best team in Europe. Obviously with the exception of Karius. I don’t remember a time during the match where our defence looked like it was getting battered or looked particularly vulnerable.
I’ll await the pseudo intellectual subjective clap trap of a reply stating you saw things the rest of us missed.
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 5 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 11 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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Some would say this is rather ignorant of him.
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You may well spend all day on an Internet forum, but I have a variety of better things to do for the larger part of my time. This forum is just a throwaway distraction for occasional idle moments.
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Answering one poster’s question without answering a previously asked question by another poster may be considered ignorant.
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I do apologise if I missed one of your posts, there is quite a lot of dross from posters who are not myself to filter through. Pease post again if it troubles you so much that I didn't respond, and I'll have a read.
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It wasn’t even my post. If you want to avoid reading through all the dross then I suggest you start deleting your own comments
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Presumably you also still rely heavily on the incisive retort, "I know you are but what am I?".
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No.
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
“I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.”
So go on then. Tell us what VVD should’ve done to meet your expectations?
This should be interesting.
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I've already explained the nature of some elements of why he fell short, by inference the point would be that if he did not fall short in these ways, his performance would have been better. Obviously I can elaborate further, but the quality and intellect of the current suite of responses hardly justifies the effort.
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You haven’t explained anything. All you’ve done is provided a load of waffle to try (unsuccessfully) to mask the fact you’ve no idea what you’re talking about.
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
Yeah but VVD has significantly improved our defence.
Let's just put it down to a brainfart moment, no?
VVD has clearly & significantly improved our defence.
You'd have to be insane to argue otherwise. Brainless one might say
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 11 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
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The article is not about making fantasy comparisons between two specific players in a specific match. The article was much broader than that, and the point is moot because the match is in the past and therefore it bears little relevance and there is no possible way to resolve it.
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 11 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
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The article is not about making fantasy comparisons between two specific players in a specific match. The article was much broader than that, and the point is moot because the match is in the past and therefore it bears little relevance and there is no possible way to resolve it.
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And in a broader sense, Van Dijk has significantly improved us.
How come this soft munter has been nowhere near for 5 months and then after Van Dijk plays superb, improves Liverpool’s defence 10 fold and there’s no football on he’s never away?
comment by KLS: Fekir that, have you seen his knee scan! (U1695)
posted 22 minutes ago
How come this soft munter has been nowhere near for 5 months and then after Van Dijk plays superb, improves Liverpool’s defence 10 fold and there’s no football on he’s never away?
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Your language of reactionary hyperbole is typical of the poor quality discourse that has been soiling the Internet in ever increasing volume as time passes.
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 11 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
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The article is not about making fantasy comparisons between two specific players in a specific match. The article was much broader than that, and the point is moot because the match is in the past and therefore it bears little relevance and there is no possible way to resolve it.
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And in a broader sense, Van Dijk has significantly improved us.
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Which returns the discussion to the original debating point, rather than the non-point you were attempting to make.
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by KLS: Fekir that, have you seen his knee scan! (U1695)
posted 22 minutes ago
How come this soft munter has been nowhere near for 5 months and then after Van Dijk plays superb, improves Liverpool’s defence 10 fold and there’s no football on he’s never away?
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Your language of reactionary hyperbole is typical of the poor quality discourse that has been soiling the Internet in ever increasing volume as time passes.
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You weren’t soiling this after January to June though 🛎🔚
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 11 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
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The article is not about making fantasy comparisons between two specific players in a specific match. The article was much broader than that, and the point is moot because the match is in the past and therefore it bears little relevance and there is no possible way to resolve it.
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And in a broader sense, Van Dijk has significantly improved us.
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Which returns the discussion to the original debating point, rather than the non-point you were attempting to make.
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I'm now making the point that Van Dijk has improved us significantly and so your article is wrong.
comment by KLS: Fekir that, have you seen his knee scan! (U1695)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by KLS: Fekir that, have you seen his knee scan! (U1695)
posted 22 minutes ago
How come this soft munter has been nowhere near for 5 months and then after Van Dijk plays superb, improves Liverpool’s defence 10 fold and there’s no football on he’s never away?
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Your language of reactionary hyperbole is typical of the poor quality discourse that has been soiling the Internet in ever increasing volume as time passes.
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You weren’t soiling this after January to June though 🛎🔚
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You have no useful point to make
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 11 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
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The article is not about making fantasy comparisons between two specific players in a specific match. The article was much broader than that, and the point is moot because the match is in the past and therefore it bears little relevance and there is no possible way to resolve it.
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And in a broader sense, Van Dijk has significantly improved us.
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Which returns the discussion to the original debating point, rather than the non-point you were attempting to make.
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I'm now making the point that Van Dijk has improved us significantly and so your article is wrong.
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And there is nothing wrong with expressing your opinion and contributing to the debate.
Still waiting for Brainless to give any kind of evidence to show VVD hasn't improved our defence significantly.
Just face it, brain. You were utterly wrong with your original post. The difference in performance and influence is there for all to see. How much he has improved the defence is also a big statement when you examine the statistics.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 54 minutes ago
Still waiting for Brainless to give any kind of evidence to show VVD hasn't improved our defence significantly.
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He's just a troll. I bet he'll go on the ad hominem road again or beat around the bush.
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posted on 12/6/18
comment by No love - I assume I have the misfortune of speaking to my mother. (U1282)
posted 30 minutes ago
You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure.
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What a load of crap
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Excellent contribution. There's simply no beginning to your talents
posted on 12/6/18
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 5 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 11 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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Some would say this is rather ignorant of him.
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You may well spend all day on an Internet forum, but I have a variety of better things to do for the larger part of my time. This forum is just a throwaway distraction for occasional idle moments.
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Answering one poster’s question without answering a previously asked question by another poster may be considered ignorant.
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I do apologise if I missed one of your posts, there is quite a lot of dross from posters who are not myself to filter through. Pease post again if it troubles you so much that I didn't respond, and I'll have a read.
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It wasn’t even my post. If you want to avoid reading through all the dross then I suggest you start deleting your own comments
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Presumably you also still rely heavily on the incisive retort, "I know you are but what am I?".
posted on 12/6/18
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by milkwasabadchoice (U10056)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fields I very much doubt it'll be "interesting"
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Said with tongue firmly in cheek.
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I know you did, he's yet to post anything interesting
posted on 12/6/18
So we’ll have to put up with this idiot being on here during the summer whilst VVD isn’t playing and then come the start of the season he’ll disappear again.
posted on 12/6/18
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
“I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.”
So go on then. Tell us what VVD should’ve done to meet your expectations?
This should be interesting.
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I've already explained the nature of some elements of why he fell short, by inference the point would be that if he did not fall short in these ways, his performance would have been better. Obviously I can elaborate further, but the quality and intellect of the current suite of responses hardly justifies the effort.
posted on 12/6/18
comment by KLS: Fekir that, have you seen his knee scan! (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
So we’ll have to put up with this idiot being on here during the summer whilst VVD isn’t playing and then come the start of the season he’ll disappear again.
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Unfortunately VVDs nation didn't reach the world cup, it's the worst pool of players they've had for a long time.
posted on 12/6/18
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
“I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.”
So go on then. Tell us what VVD should’ve done to meet your expectations?
This should be interesting.
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I've already explained the nature of some elements of why he fell short, by inference the point would be that if he did not fall short in these ways, his performance would have been better. Obviously I can elaborate further, but the quality and intellect of the current suite of responses hardly justifies the effort.
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Was VVD at fault for any of the 3 goals conceded?
Did VVD commit defensive errors during the match?
Was VVD troubled by Real Madrid’s forward players during the match?
The consensus was he, and the rest of our defence for that matter, had a good game against the best team in Europe. Obviously with the exception of Karius. I don’t remember a time during the match where our defence looked like it was getting battered or looked particularly vulnerable.
I’ll await the pseudo intellectual subjective clap trap of a reply stating you saw things the rest of us missed.
posted on 12/6/18
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 5 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 11 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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Some would say this is rather ignorant of him.
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You may well spend all day on an Internet forum, but I have a variety of better things to do for the larger part of my time. This forum is just a throwaway distraction for occasional idle moments.
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Answering one poster’s question without answering a previously asked question by another poster may be considered ignorant.
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I do apologise if I missed one of your posts, there is quite a lot of dross from posters who are not myself to filter through. Pease post again if it troubles you so much that I didn't respond, and I'll have a read.
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It wasn’t even my post. If you want to avoid reading through all the dross then I suggest you start deleting your own comments
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Presumably you also still rely heavily on the incisive retort, "I know you are but what am I?".
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No.
posted on 12/6/18
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
“I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.”
So go on then. Tell us what VVD should’ve done to meet your expectations?
This should be interesting.
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I've already explained the nature of some elements of why he fell short, by inference the point would be that if he did not fall short in these ways, his performance would have been better. Obviously I can elaborate further, but the quality and intellect of the current suite of responses hardly justifies the effort.
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You haven’t explained anything. All you’ve done is provided a load of waffle to try (unsuccessfully) to mask the fact you’ve no idea what you’re talking about.
posted on 12/6/18
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
posted on 12/6/18
Yeah but VVD has significantly improved our defence.
Let's just put it down to a brainfart moment, no?
posted on 12/6/18
VVD has clearly & significantly improved our defence.
You'd have to be insane to argue otherwise. Brainless one might say
posted on 12/6/18
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 11 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
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Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
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The article is not about making fantasy comparisons between two specific players in a specific match. The article was much broader than that, and the point is moot because the match is in the past and therefore it bears little relevance and there is no possible way to resolve it.
posted on 12/6/18
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 11 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
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The article is not about making fantasy comparisons between two specific players in a specific match. The article was much broader than that, and the point is moot because the match is in the past and therefore it bears little relevance and there is no possible way to resolve it.
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And in a broader sense, Van Dijk has significantly improved us.
posted on 12/6/18
posted on 12/6/18
How come this soft munter has been nowhere near for 5 months and then after Van Dijk plays superb, improves Liverpool’s defence 10 fold and there’s no football on he’s never away?
posted on 12/6/18
comment by KLS: Fekir that, have you seen his knee scan! (U1695)
posted 22 minutes ago
How come this soft munter has been nowhere near for 5 months and then after Van Dijk plays superb, improves Liverpool’s defence 10 fold and there’s no football on he’s never away?
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Your language of reactionary hyperbole is typical of the poor quality discourse that has been soiling the Internet in ever increasing volume as time passes.
posted on 12/6/18
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 11 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
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The article is not about making fantasy comparisons between two specific players in a specific match. The article was much broader than that, and the point is moot because the match is in the past and therefore it bears little relevance and there is no possible way to resolve it.
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And in a broader sense, Van Dijk has significantly improved us.
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Which returns the discussion to the original debating point, rather than the non-point you were attempting to make.
posted on 12/6/18
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by KLS: Fekir that, have you seen his knee scan! (U1695)
posted 22 minutes ago
How come this soft munter has been nowhere near for 5 months and then after Van Dijk plays superb, improves Liverpool’s defence 10 fold and there’s no football on he’s never away?
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Your language of reactionary hyperbole is typical of the poor quality discourse that has been soiling the Internet in ever increasing volume as time passes.
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You weren’t soiling this after January to June though 🛎🔚
posted on 12/6/18
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 11 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
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The article is not about making fantasy comparisons between two specific players in a specific match. The article was much broader than that, and the point is moot because the match is in the past and therefore it bears little relevance and there is no possible way to resolve it.
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And in a broader sense, Van Dijk has significantly improved us.
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Which returns the discussion to the original debating point, rather than the non-point you were attempting to make.
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I'm now making the point that Van Dijk has improved us significantly and so your article is wrong.
posted on 13/6/18
comment by KLS: Fekir that, have you seen his knee scan! (U1695)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by KLS: Fekir that, have you seen his knee scan! (U1695)
posted 22 minutes ago
How come this soft munter has been nowhere near for 5 months and then after Van Dijk plays superb, improves Liverpool’s defence 10 fold and there’s no football on he’s never away?
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Your language of reactionary hyperbole is typical of the poor quality discourse that has been soiling the Internet in ever increasing volume as time passes.
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You weren’t soiling this after January to June though 🛎🔚
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You have no useful point to make
posted on 13/6/18
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 11 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hi Brain
What was wrong with VvD's performance in the CL final? When you say "He needed to deliver a better performance in the CL final though." what specifically are you talking about?
Of course, he COULD have done better. He could have dribbled past the entire Real team, rounded the keeper and backheeled it into the goal three or four times in a row. But realistically, what do you think needed improving in his performance?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now, where's my answer Brian? Am curious to know your thoughts....
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You could make elementary observations on his performance, for example he was drawn out of his most effective position unnecessarily on a few occasions, he was not as commanding in the air as he can be, or you could point to the moments where he sent the ball out of play as a result of being rushed and temporarily lacking composure. He still often appeared cool, but smaller tells betray his much less relaxed actual disposition, and as such he was probably a less effective performer than the previously appalling Lovren, ironically a player who has greatly benefitted from playing alongside him.
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Which is fine but do you think he did significantly better than Klavan would have? Personally I do.
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It is possible that Klavan would have not have been an adequate direct replacement, but then it's also possible he would. The point is moot. I was simply contributing to the discussion on why I believe VVD fell short of what could be expected for the most expensive defender in history.
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It's not really moot if it's the point of the article.
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The article is not about making fantasy comparisons between two specific players in a specific match. The article was much broader than that, and the point is moot because the match is in the past and therefore it bears little relevance and there is no possible way to resolve it.
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And in a broader sense, Van Dijk has significantly improved us.
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Which returns the discussion to the original debating point, rather than the non-point you were attempting to make.
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I'm now making the point that Van Dijk has improved us significantly and so your article is wrong.
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And there is nothing wrong with expressing your opinion and contributing to the debate.
posted on 14/6/18
Still waiting for Brainless to give any kind of evidence to show VVD hasn't improved our defence significantly.
posted on 14/6/18
Just face it, brain. You were utterly wrong with your original post. The difference in performance and influence is there for all to see. How much he has improved the defence is also a big statement when you examine the statistics.
posted on 14/6/18
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 54 minutes ago
Still waiting for Brainless to give any kind of evidence to show VVD hasn't improved our defence significantly.
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He's just a troll. I bet he'll go on the ad hominem road again or beat around the bush.
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