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I don't know what is possible or not. But,at a guess, I would begin with banning certain kinds on assault rifles, pump action shotguns, and do background checks before you get a licence.Also stop mail order sales.
It's a start.
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Agreed in principle
But the fundamental question is how does a President get that into law? How does he get it past the NRA and Congress?
The NRA don't get a vote. Perhaps people power will persuade Congress to vote it through, especially if they think they will be voted out otherwise. There are a lot of Americans, wising up to use their expression, about gun ownership.
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Comparing guns to alcohol, tobacco or drugs is pretty hilarious.
How many people can you kill with alcohol? Just yourself
A cigarette? A few over a few decades of sustained exposure
Drugs? Just yourself again
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https://www.healthline.com/health/leading-causes-of-death
Doesn't mention gunshot wound anywhere.
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Thanks. What the flying fack does that have to do with anything though?
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It clearly illustrates that Cigarettes and Alcohol are far more dangerous to Human Beings in America than Firearms are.
If we want to save more lives by banning firearms, then surely we need to address all killers and wouldn't you start at the top with the biggest killers?
Why would you discriminate against people who can, by law, legally acquire and own a gun but have no intention of committing crime?
Especially when their are much bigger threats to human life than guns.
If you address one, you need to address them all.
The only fundamental difference with a firearm is that a shooting victim didn't get to make a choice, which is why it is a more emotive issue.
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What a ridiculous argument. You should have just written the last sentence.
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Adding on to that, I love the way it's a posted as footnote difference, when in fact it is the MASSIVE difference!!
A bit like says, the only difference in making love and rape, is the victim didn't get to make the choice, which is why it is an emotive issue. 🤦🤦
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Not really
People in the US are allowed to legally own alcohol
People in the US are allowed to legally own tobacco
People in the US are allowed to legally own a firearm
Last time I checked rape is illegal full stop so your analogy doesn't really work.
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Seriously? Seriously???
Do you think shooting innocent people is legal in some states???
Wow.
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Where did I say that?
Where on this thread I have even given the slightest inkling that I think shooting innocent people is ok?
Seriously mate.
Are you on Drugs?
Talk about putting words in my mouth and deflecting away from the original point, which was Cigarettes and Alcohol are a bigger threat to the American populous than firearms are.
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See Just Shoot's response above.
And you think I'm the one on drugs.
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I did
He obviously never heard of Justifiable Homicide
Cigarettes and Alcohol are bigger killers and a bigger threat to life in America than firearms. That's a fact.
Please don't out words in my mouth.
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I don't think you understand what justifiable homicide means and the varying legality across different states.
You're a lost cause.
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It would depend on the circumstances but you can legally kill someone with a gun in America, without there being legal consequences. Am I wrong?
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Sigh...
Okay, last time and I'm giving up.
You initially said a shooting victim didn't get to make A choice.
You go on to say the rape victim doesn't have a choice analogy is wrong because rape is illegal full stop.
When challenged on this you raise the term justifiable homicide to as some proof that it is legal to kill someone in some US states to prove your point about the rape victim analogy being wrong.
Justifiable homicide is a legal term primarily introduced to provide the legal framework for absolving culpability when committing murder in the act of self defence. This is why I said you mustn't understand the term. The victim of a crime such as rape, who kills the perpetrator and uses the justifiable homicide defence is the victim.
The perpetrator of the rape is NOT the victim. The perpetrator of the rape who is killed DID make a choice to rape someone which resulted in their own death. Ergo, your claim that justifiable homicide makes the analogy wrong is, in fact, wrong. Your "victim who didn't have a choice" in the case of justifiable homicide is legally NOT a victim and their death was a direct consequence of their choice to rape someone.
Justifiable homicide has no relevance to the validity of analogy. You're wrong.
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I was referencing Justifiable Homicide to a previous post that said it is illegal to kill someone.
I wasn't necessarily commenting on the rape analogy. I actually take you point on that.
The whole point has gotten muddied. See my previous post. That is essentially where I am trying to go.
The NRA only have power becsude politicians let them have it through donations.
It won't change unless the politicians do.
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 23 seconds ago
The NRA don't get a vote. Perhaps people power will persuade Congress to vote it through, especially if they think they will be voted out otherwise. There are a lot of Americans, wising up to use their expression, about gun ownership.
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I made this point multiple times about 200 comments ago.
Good luck.
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Nowhere have I stated that the NRA have a vote.
Their lobby/influence is strong. A point perfectly made by Cara Gold.
The Politicians will vote the way their 'consciences' tell them. That's where the NRA's influence is and that is why there has been no significant, meaningful new laws to bring about meaningful change.
And most likely never will be until Politicians can resist the lure of Lobbyist money.
Not sure why alcohol has come up but the only solution I think is to arm Bartenders.
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't know what is possible or not. But,at a guess, I would begin with banning certain kinds on assault rifles, pump action shotguns, and do background checks before you get a licence.Also stop mail order sales.
It's a start.
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Agreed in principle
But the fundamental question is how does a President get that into law? How does he get it past the NRA and Congress?
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The American people have to decide it is what they want to do. The President and Congress can't and won't do anything without a mandate from the people.
It's a democratic country. If the American people wanted to address the issue, they'd be actively supporting pro-gun control political candidates and parties.
So they'll choose to do that. Or they'll just crack on shooting the place up purposefully and accidentally and adding to the death toll.
Whilst the people continue to elect libertarian politicians, nothing will change and they only have themselves to blame.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
The NRA only have power becsude politicians let them have it through donations.
It won't change unless the politicians do.
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Good article on where the NRA get their cash from. One would assume that gun manufacturers etc would be their largest funders but (insofar as lobbying/political influence is concerned) their funds come from everyday americans.
And after a mass shooting donations surge as gun owners don't want to lose their guns!
http://money.cnn.com/news/cnnmoney-investigates/nra-funding-donors/index.html
30,000 donors is fairly insignificant though compared to the numbers of Americans.
Not sure why alcohol has come up but the only solution I think is to arm Bartenders.
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Or make bartenders drink more, because the only thing that can stop a bad man with a drink is a good man with a drink.
Politicians needs the money from NRA and other lobbyists because running for office is such a huge expense... they prob enjoy the backhanders too Really is a horrible system, whoever can pay the most gets to influence their votes and push whatever bills they want.
The big pharmaceutical companies there are worse than the NRA, they pay billions to push certain drugs or get them approved, incentivise people in the medical profession to prescribe their drugs to pateints. Half of Americans are hooked on pills that most of them don't need.
They probably think the pills will stop them needing to go to hospital
It's a democratic country. If the American people wanted to address the issue, they'd be actively supporting pro-gun control political candidates and parties.
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There is some evidence that a majority of Americans do want to address this issue, and that legislators are now out of step. (Though not out of pocket).
That is why the protestors from the school in Florida are optimistic they can change things, and are talking about legislators being un-representative. There is a massive majority in favour of stronger background checks, in particular.
We’ve heard it all before, of course, but I get the impression that there has been a cumulative effect, and it’s being pushed further up the agenda.
In a democracy, though, you vote for a package of policies, so it has to become the number 1 issue before the question of what the majority thinks has an effect on elections.(Some people for example, might think that the Labour party’s position on Brexit is more to their liking, but won’t vote for them because they don’t like the rest of their policies.
In fact, I saw Matthew Parris saying just that, on Newsnight this week).
But you get the feeling that gun control is heading up the agenda, and it's possible that it could become sufficiently important in people’s minds to effect a sea-change in elections.
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posted 35 minutes ago
Not sure why alcohol has come up but the only solution I think is to arm Bartenders.
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Couldn't agree more. Bartenders without arms would be useless to mankind.
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posted 23 minutes ago
Not sure why alcohol has come up but the only solution I think is to arm Bartenders.
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Or make bartenders drink more, because the only thing that can stop a bad man with a drink is a good man with a drink.
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Train bartenders how to handle barrels
comment by Wessie Road (U10652)
posted 20 minutes ago
It's a democratic country. If the American people wanted to address the issue, they'd be actively supporting pro-gun control political candidates and parties.
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There is some evidence that a majority of Americans do want to address this issue, and that legislators are now out of step. (Though not out of pocket).
That is why the protestors from the school in Florida are optimistic they can change things, and are talking about legislators being un-representative. There is a massive majority in favour of stronger background checks, in particular.
We’ve heard it all before, of course, but I get the impression that there has been a cumulative effect, and it’s being pushed further up the agenda.
In a democracy, though, you vote for a package of policies, so it has to become the number 1 issue before the question of what the majority thinks has an effect on elections.(Some people for example, might think that the Labour party’s position on Brexit is more to their liking, but won’t vote for them because they don’t like the rest of their policies.
In fact, I saw Matthew Parris saying just that, on Newsnight this week).
But you get the feeling that gun control is heading up the agenda, and it's possible that it could become sufficiently important in people’s minds to effect a sea-change in elections.
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Absolutely, and, as I say, should the American people feel that addressing the facts that there is an average of one mass shooting a day, that people are injuring themselves and their families fatally in the home on a daily basis, and that lunatics with mental health problems can quite easily come to acquire fully automatic weapons, walk into schools and massacre children should be a priority, they will act accordingly.
While they feel like other issues, like their personal tax burden, are more of an issue, they'll keep calm and carry on.
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Not sure why alcohol has come up but the only solution I think is to arm Bartenders.
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Couldn't agree more. Bartenders without arms would be useless to mankind.
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Saw Lucky Logan last night with Adam Driver, he had one arm but made a mean cocktail
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comment by #GLM GooberLivesMatter (U3245)
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and btw. drugs are banned here yet they aint gone away have they?
just saying "ban guns!!!!" wont make them go away...
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Raping is illegal but it still happens, so should we legalise rape?
You feckin moron
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so you think maling rape legal would help the situation, what sort of forking nut job are you- a rapist maybe
my comment was i reponse to the first nut job just couldnt find the post again
comment by #GLM GooberLivesMatter (U3245)
posted 1 day ago
2 day old news
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/duo-targeted-pizza-delivery-drivers-in-pair-of-armed-robberies-in-evanston/
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iall the cases you have cited all of the victims had no guns themselves and are therefore still alive if in any of those case all had been armed then someone would be dead now......get with the programme numpty.
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posted 1 day ago
Is there any way for the government to challenge one of the amendments though?
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its an AMENDMENT ffs its already been changed by a government before.
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Is there any way for the government to challenge one of the amendments though?
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its an AMENDMENT ffs its already been changed by a government before.
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posted on 23/2/18
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't know what is possible or not. But,at a guess, I would begin with banning certain kinds on assault rifles, pump action shotguns, and do background checks before you get a licence.Also stop mail order sales.
It's a start.
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Agreed in principle
But the fundamental question is how does a President get that into law? How does he get it past the NRA and Congress?
posted on 23/2/18
The NRA don't get a vote. Perhaps people power will persuade Congress to vote it through, especially if they think they will be voted out otherwise. There are a lot of Americans, wising up to use their expression, about gun ownership.
posted on 23/2/18
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Comparing guns to alcohol, tobacco or drugs is pretty hilarious.
How many people can you kill with alcohol? Just yourself
A cigarette? A few over a few decades of sustained exposure
Drugs? Just yourself again
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https://www.healthline.com/health/leading-causes-of-death
Doesn't mention gunshot wound anywhere.
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Thanks. What the flying fack does that have to do with anything though?
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It clearly illustrates that Cigarettes and Alcohol are far more dangerous to Human Beings in America than Firearms are.
If we want to save more lives by banning firearms, then surely we need to address all killers and wouldn't you start at the top with the biggest killers?
Why would you discriminate against people who can, by law, legally acquire and own a gun but have no intention of committing crime?
Especially when their are much bigger threats to human life than guns.
If you address one, you need to address them all.
The only fundamental difference with a firearm is that a shooting victim didn't get to make a choice, which is why it is a more emotive issue.
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What a ridiculous argument. You should have just written the last sentence.
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Adding on to that, I love the way it's a posted as footnote difference, when in fact it is the MASSIVE difference!!
A bit like says, the only difference in making love and rape, is the victim didn't get to make the choice, which is why it is an emotive issue. 🤦🤦
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Not really
People in the US are allowed to legally own alcohol
People in the US are allowed to legally own tobacco
People in the US are allowed to legally own a firearm
Last time I checked rape is illegal full stop so your analogy doesn't really work.
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Seriously? Seriously???
Do you think shooting innocent people is legal in some states???
Wow.
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Where did I say that?
Where on this thread I have even given the slightest inkling that I think shooting innocent people is ok?
Seriously mate.
Are you on Drugs?
Talk about putting words in my mouth and deflecting away from the original point, which was Cigarettes and Alcohol are a bigger threat to the American populous than firearms are.
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See Just Shoot's response above.
And you think I'm the one on drugs.
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I did
He obviously never heard of Justifiable Homicide
Cigarettes and Alcohol are bigger killers and a bigger threat to life in America than firearms. That's a fact.
Please don't out words in my mouth.
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I don't think you understand what justifiable homicide means and the varying legality across different states.
You're a lost cause.
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It would depend on the circumstances but you can legally kill someone with a gun in America, without there being legal consequences. Am I wrong?
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Sigh...
Okay, last time and I'm giving up.
You initially said a shooting victim didn't get to make A choice.
You go on to say the rape victim doesn't have a choice analogy is wrong because rape is illegal full stop.
When challenged on this you raise the term justifiable homicide to as some proof that it is legal to kill someone in some US states to prove your point about the rape victim analogy being wrong.
Justifiable homicide is a legal term primarily introduced to provide the legal framework for absolving culpability when committing murder in the act of self defence. This is why I said you mustn't understand the term. The victim of a crime such as rape, who kills the perpetrator and uses the justifiable homicide defence is the victim.
The perpetrator of the rape is NOT the victim. The perpetrator of the rape who is killed DID make a choice to rape someone which resulted in their own death. Ergo, your claim that justifiable homicide makes the analogy wrong is, in fact, wrong. Your "victim who didn't have a choice" in the case of justifiable homicide is legally NOT a victim and their death was a direct consequence of their choice to rape someone.
Justifiable homicide has no relevance to the validity of analogy. You're wrong.
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I was referencing Justifiable Homicide to a previous post that said it is illegal to kill someone.
I wasn't necessarily commenting on the rape analogy. I actually take you point on that.
The whole point has gotten muddied. See my previous post. That is essentially where I am trying to go.
posted on 23/2/18
The NRA only have power becsude politicians let them have it through donations.
It won't change unless the politicians do.
posted on 23/2/18
comment by Dave Sanchez 🤓🦈🐠 (U11711)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 23 seconds ago
The NRA don't get a vote. Perhaps people power will persuade Congress to vote it through, especially if they think they will be voted out otherwise. There are a lot of Americans, wising up to use their expression, about gun ownership.
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I made this point multiple times about 200 comments ago.
Good luck.
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Nowhere have I stated that the NRA have a vote.
Their lobby/influence is strong. A point perfectly made by Cara Gold.
The Politicians will vote the way their 'consciences' tell them. That's where the NRA's influence is and that is why there has been no significant, meaningful new laws to bring about meaningful change.
And most likely never will be until Politicians can resist the lure of Lobbyist money.
posted on 23/2/18
Not sure why alcohol has come up but the only solution I think is to arm Bartenders.
posted on 23/2/18
comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't know what is possible or not. But,at a guess, I would begin with banning certain kinds on assault rifles, pump action shotguns, and do background checks before you get a licence.Also stop mail order sales.
It's a start.
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Agreed in principle
But the fundamental question is how does a President get that into law? How does he get it past the NRA and Congress?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The American people have to decide it is what they want to do. The President and Congress can't and won't do anything without a mandate from the people.
It's a democratic country. If the American people wanted to address the issue, they'd be actively supporting pro-gun control political candidates and parties.
So they'll choose to do that. Or they'll just crack on shooting the place up purposefully and accidentally and adding to the death toll.
Whilst the people continue to elect libertarian politicians, nothing will change and they only have themselves to blame.
posted on 23/2/18
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
The NRA only have power becsude politicians let them have it through donations.
It won't change unless the politicians do.
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Good article on where the NRA get their cash from. One would assume that gun manufacturers etc would be their largest funders but (insofar as lobbying/political influence is concerned) their funds come from everyday americans.
And after a mass shooting donations surge as gun owners don't want to lose their guns!
http://money.cnn.com/news/cnnmoney-investigates/nra-funding-donors/index.html
posted on 23/2/18
30,000 donors is fairly insignificant though compared to the numbers of Americans.
posted on 23/2/18
Not sure why alcohol has come up but the only solution I think is to arm Bartenders.
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Or make bartenders drink more, because the only thing that can stop a bad man with a drink is a good man with a drink.
posted on 23/2/18
Politicians needs the money from NRA and other lobbyists because running for office is such a huge expense... they prob enjoy the backhanders too Really is a horrible system, whoever can pay the most gets to influence their votes and push whatever bills they want.
posted on 23/2/18
The big pharmaceutical companies there are worse than the NRA, they pay billions to push certain drugs or get them approved, incentivise people in the medical profession to prescribe their drugs to pateints. Half of Americans are hooked on pills that most of them don't need.
posted on 23/2/18
They probably think the pills will stop them needing to go to hospital
posted on 23/2/18
It's a democratic country. If the American people wanted to address the issue, they'd be actively supporting pro-gun control political candidates and parties.
============================================================
There is some evidence that a majority of Americans do want to address this issue, and that legislators are now out of step. (Though not out of pocket).
That is why the protestors from the school in Florida are optimistic they can change things, and are talking about legislators being un-representative. There is a massive majority in favour of stronger background checks, in particular.
We’ve heard it all before, of course, but I get the impression that there has been a cumulative effect, and it’s being pushed further up the agenda.
In a democracy, though, you vote for a package of policies, so it has to become the number 1 issue before the question of what the majority thinks has an effect on elections.(Some people for example, might think that the Labour party’s position on Brexit is more to their liking, but won’t vote for them because they don’t like the rest of their policies.
In fact, I saw Matthew Parris saying just that, on Newsnight this week).
But you get the feeling that gun control is heading up the agenda, and it's possible that it could become sufficiently important in people’s minds to effect a sea-change in elections.
posted on 23/2/18
comment by The Duality of Can (U21747)
posted 35 minutes ago
Not sure why alcohol has come up but the only solution I think is to arm Bartenders.
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Couldn't agree more. Bartenders without arms would be useless to mankind.
posted on 23/2/18
comment by Wessie Road (U10652)
posted 23 minutes ago
Not sure why alcohol has come up but the only solution I think is to arm Bartenders.
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Or make bartenders drink more, because the only thing that can stop a bad man with a drink is a good man with a drink.
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Train bartenders how to handle barrels
posted on 23/2/18
comment by Wessie Road (U10652)
posted 20 minutes ago
It's a democratic country. If the American people wanted to address the issue, they'd be actively supporting pro-gun control political candidates and parties.
============================================================
There is some evidence that a majority of Americans do want to address this issue, and that legislators are now out of step. (Though not out of pocket).
That is why the protestors from the school in Florida are optimistic they can change things, and are talking about legislators being un-representative. There is a massive majority in favour of stronger background checks, in particular.
We’ve heard it all before, of course, but I get the impression that there has been a cumulative effect, and it’s being pushed further up the agenda.
In a democracy, though, you vote for a package of policies, so it has to become the number 1 issue before the question of what the majority thinks has an effect on elections.(Some people for example, might think that the Labour party’s position on Brexit is more to their liking, but won’t vote for them because they don’t like the rest of their policies.
In fact, I saw Matthew Parris saying just that, on Newsnight this week).
But you get the feeling that gun control is heading up the agenda, and it's possible that it could become sufficiently important in people’s minds to effect a sea-change in elections.
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Absolutely, and, as I say, should the American people feel that addressing the facts that there is an average of one mass shooting a day, that people are injuring themselves and their families fatally in the home on a daily basis, and that lunatics with mental health problems can quite easily come to acquire fully automatic weapons, walk into schools and massacre children should be a priority, they will act accordingly.
While they feel like other issues, like their personal tax burden, are more of an issue, they'll keep calm and carry on.
posted on 23/2/18
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Duality of Can (U21747)
posted 35 minutes ago
Not sure why alcohol has come up but the only solution I think is to arm Bartenders.
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Couldn't agree more. Bartenders without arms would be useless to mankind.
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Saw Lucky Logan last night with Adam Driver, he had one arm but made a mean cocktail
posted on 24/2/18
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 1 day ago
comment by #GLM GooberLivesMatter (U3245)
posted 1 minute ago
and btw. drugs are banned here yet they aint gone away have they?
just saying "ban guns!!!!" wont make them go away...
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Raping is illegal but it still happens, so should we legalise rape?
You feckin moron
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so you think maling rape legal would help the situation, what sort of forking nut job are you- a rapist maybe
posted on 24/2/18
my comment was i reponse to the first nut job just couldnt find the post again
posted on 24/2/18
comment by #GLM GooberLivesMatter (U3245)
posted 1 day ago
2 day old news
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/duo-targeted-pizza-delivery-drivers-in-pair-of-armed-robberies-in-evanston/
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iall the cases you have cited all of the victims had no guns themselves and are therefore still alive if in any of those case all had been armed then someone would be dead now......get with the programme numpty.
posted on 24/2/18
comment by Big Shaq (U11781)
posted 1 day ago
Is there any way for the government to challenge one of the amendments though?
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its an AMENDMENT ffs its already been changed by a government before.
posted on 24/2/18
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Big Shaq (U11781)
posted 1 day ago
Is there any way for the government to challenge one of the amendments though?
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its an AMENDMENT ffs its already been changed by a government before.
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posted on 24/2/18
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 32 minutes ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Big Shaq (U11781)
posted 1 day ago
Is there any way for the government to challenge one of the amendments though?
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its an AMENDMENT ffs its already been changed by a government before.
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