comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago
I haven't been a ST holder at Spurs for 7 years because we win things. I do at because of a sense of belonging and love for Spurs. Nothing will change if we win a trophy.
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Now try and look at it from a players point of view.
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Why? The point of this is whether fans will be happy if he is sold? Why should I look at it from Tobys point of view? I will support Spurs after Toby leaves so his "point of view" is irrelevant compared to the view of the club that I supoort.
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Ledders is advocating giving them all another £20 grand a week, so this time next year, they will want another £20 grand a week, and the year after another £20 grand a week.
Why should the club be held hostage to players over their ridiculous wage demands. If Spurs make a real stand, I would for one as they say be Over the Moon, that finally a club has the guts to stand up to greedy players once and for all.
The club will be here long after Toby or Rose or whoever has retired.
Not lecturing anyone, or telling how to run your Club.
Just giving an opinion.
I have no problem with Spurs and who I support has no baring on it, you either agree with my points or you don't; and you don't have to read it, never mind reply to it.
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comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago
I haven't been a ST holder at Spurs for 7 years because we win things. I do at because of a sense of belonging and love for Spurs. Nothing will change if we win a trophy.
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Now try and look at it from a players point of view.
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Why? The point of this is whether fans will be happy if he is sold? Why should I look at it from Tobys point of view? I will support Spurs after Toby leaves so his "point of view" is irrelevant compared to the view of the club that I supoort.
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No that isn’t the point of this. The point of this is the club progressing and that selling a key player will be “bad news” as the OP put it.
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We have progressed well so far with the same rules in place
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Doesn’t mean it’ll continue that way.
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Doesn't mean it won't either
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Ok then in that case the whole world should keep on doing what they’re doing
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I know you are trying to be clever but actually yes, some parts of the world should carry on, others should change. IMO we are heading in the right direction with what we are doing and should continue down the same path. If your opinion is different then fair enough. Not every club needs to change.
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Wrong. You think you know I am trying to be clever.
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not lecturing anyone, or telling how to run your Club.
Just giving an opinion.
I have no problem with Spurs and who I support has no baring on it, you either agree with my points or you don't; and you don't have to read it, never mind reply to it.
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Your comment was about the club I have supported for 60 years, so why would I not read it, and then not give an opinion on it?
I thought the end of the world for Spurs came when they sold Bale.
The stance taken by some spurs fans is laudable, however replacing your best players is never easy.
Personally I think over the next three years you may lose a good few of your best players unless Levy adapts his wage structure.
Let's see if your still keen to back him when Poch and your best players leave. Walker walked, Rose has been openly critical and Toby is reported to have reached an impasse in his contract negotiations.
Liverpool are in a similar boat in someways but we are willing to push the boat out a little further in terms of transfer fee and wages. If your not careful you could have an exodus on your hands and /or an unhappy dressing room of players.
comment by γ HΡΠΈgΡ+ (U9129)
posted 20 minutes ago
Starting to get like when walker was leaving on here. Posters trying to justify it with a excuses.
When the reality is we are/would be losing a world class CB with inferior players as his replacement.
Our players tomorrow will be watching Walker potentially pick up 1 of his 2 trophies he’ll be winning this season in his first season away from us.
If you think that won’t resonate with our players like Kane & Eriksen for example then you are deluded.
Here’s hoping we come to some sort off compromise and he stays
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This is it. Walker’s decision to leave is being vindicated whether we like to admit it or not. We surely don’t want a situation where more and more of our players feel that they need to do the same.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
I thought the end of the world for Spurs came when they sold Bale.
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It did
We finished 6th with Tim Sherwood in charge.
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posted 41 minutes ago
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comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago
I haven't been a ST holder at Spurs for 7 years because we win things. I do at because of a sense of belonging and love for Spurs. Nothing will change if we win a trophy.
_____________
Now try and look at it from a players point of view.
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Why? The point of this is whether fans will be happy if he is sold? Why should I look at it from Tobys point of view? I will support Spurs after Toby leaves so his "point of view" is irrelevant compared to the view of the club that I supoort.
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No that isn’t the point of this. The point of this is the club progressing and that selling a key player will be “bad news” as the OP put it.
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We have progressed well so far with the same rules in place
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Doesn’t mean it’ll continue that way.
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Doesn't mean it won't either
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Ok then in that case the whole world should keep on doing what they’re doing
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I know you are trying to be clever but actually yes, some parts of the world should carry on, others should change. IMO we are heading in the right direction with what we are doing and should continue down the same path. If your opinion is different then fair enough. Not every club needs to change.
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Wrong. You think you know I am trying to be clever.
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Do you have any other input to my comment, or just what you said?
We won`t be winning anything if we keep selling our `finished article` players and replacing them with promising youngsters. Every successful team has proven players throughout their team with a sprinkling of young up and coming talent, not the other way around.
It is naive to think selling Toby and expecting Sanchez and Foyth to be at the same levels in the next couple of seasons, those two are both young and still learning their trade.
It is up to Levy to take us to the next level and keep our key players happy.
I am in no doubt we can afford to raise our wage bill significantly (new stadium or no new stadium) if we really want to, increased revenues on the horizon, increased sponsorship, stadium naming rights and record TV deals etc.
On revenues we are the 11th or 12th biggest club in Europe, and soon to enter the top 10..... it`s time we starting acting like it imo.
The only top player spurs have sold so far is Bale and he hasn't exactly excelled in the same way since leaving.
I’m not fussed if we sell Toby since we have Sanchez, Toby seems to pick up injuries and will get worse as he gets older, if we can get massive money for him and push Foyth forward or drop Dier back.
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Is it true he has a £24M release clause?
comment by πππππππππππππ (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Is it true he has a £24M release clause?
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£25m from summer 2019
HE might have got a game today for us ahead of Matip
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 5 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by hounslows-finest (U6180)
posted 2 minutes ago
Be a shame if he leaves but we are a well run club and we ain’t doing too badly.
Football has been ruined by money for years and it will get worse.
When a normal bloke can’t afford to take his 2 kids to games then something is wrong.
I don’t blame the players for asking for big money as they know if they’re good enough some club will pay it.
Toby has been outstanding for us and if he leaves then so be it.
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Fans could be let in for free, and you could still pay TA £150,000.00 a week.
Spurs are a well run Club is an odd statement tbh, well run to what end? For what purpose? What is the pount of Spurs?
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This kind of moronic statement is pretty much what’s wrong with football today. Fans who see a club who doesn’t win trophies regularly as “pointless”. Well that makes about 88 clubs in England pointless then. However the millions of fans who go and watch them every week hardly regard it as pointless. Pathetic comment
Part of what I love about Spurs is that we have always been about more than buying trophies. We have always played attacking football under progressive managers. We have always had strong roots in the local community. We have always had an English core of players who contribute to the national team.
Pundits and other fans think that paying players £200k a week and winning the Champions League is the be all and end all. It is very, very rarely mentioned how Spurs are the only side in the country competing at the very top on a reasonable wage bill with a strong English core of players.
I badly want Toby to stay, but regardless of whether he does or not I will always be proud of the way in which Spurs are trying to achieve things. If the journey results in trophies then brilliant, but I'd rather do it this way and fall just short than buy the league like Chelsea or City. Even failure has an echo of glory and all that
Toby is a fantastic player and hopefully stays but if it's true that he is demanding £150k and we are offering £110k but the offer is being refused then I'm alright with him leaving.
If you're company doesn't pay you the salary that you demand and you can guarantee that somewhere else then so be it. I don't think Spurs should have to change their wage structure if they're not comfortable with it.
I think it's already progressed. We have more players near the £100k mark than we've done before. Let's not forget that only a few clubs in the world can offer their player's salary of £200k and beyond.
There will always be talent out there happy with a measly £90-110k a week. Whether Toby goes or stays I think we should look at De Ligt from Ajax, another fantastic player who would be able to partner Sanchez.
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 53 minutes ago
Toby is a fantastic player and hopefully stays but if it's true that he is demanding £150k and we are offering £110k but the offer is being refused then I'm alright with him leaving.
If you're company doesn't pay you the salary that you demand and you can guarantee that somewhere else then so be it. I don't think Spurs should have to change their wage structure if they're not comfortable with it.
I think it's already progressed. We have more players near the £100k mark than we've done before. Let's not forget that only a few clubs in the world can offer their player's salary of £200k and beyond.
There will always be talent out there happy with a measly £90-110k a week. Whether Toby goes or stays I think we should look at De Ligt from Ajax, another fantastic player who would be able to partner Sanchez.
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De Ligt could not partner Sanchez at this time. Both of them too inexperienced.
In all of this on going discussion of Toby Alderweireld's salary demands, I have not seen a single word from the player himself.
Pochettino is on record a few days ago as saying he himself was not involved in these negotiations. Yes, Poch washed his hands of it!
So something is going on in Levy's office about something.
Personally I do not think Toby would be silly enough to demand a higher pay than Harry Kane is getting. But who knows?
He is 28 and he may think he can get what he wants elsewhere. Or it may all be Levy propaganda and lies.
Others say he has been injured and has lowered his value as a result.
One thing is for sure, the team is best with the CB pair of Vertonghen and Alderwiereld.
I have said this before: I think we had a marginally stronger team last season.
Just don’t sell to anyone in EPLπ
That’s my only concern for any half-decent player who wants out.
Let him go, but not to anyone in the prem
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just don’t sell to anyone in EPLπ
That’s my only concern for any half-decent player who wants out.
Let him go, but not to anyone in the prem
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He does not want out. He is said to want a higher salary than Levy is willing to pay.
But the player has said nothing.
Nobody on the outside knows what is going on.
Hopefully Toby and the club can meet in the middle. I understand it’s importabt to work thin our means but st the same time we won’t find a better defender elsewhere. Need to tie him down so that when we decide we may want to move him on, he’s 32 plus and his best days are behind him
If we were to increase our 25-Man senior squads wages by an average of 20k a player, that equates to £26m a year. Now let’s be honest, they don’t all deserve a raise so the whole idea that they’ll all come knocking on the door demanding a pay rise isn’t necessarily true, so we would have some room to manoeuvre with some of the better players. It’s a starting point and is a gradual move towards paying what some of our players deserve in truth - a middle ground that some of our fans on here don’t seem to think exists.
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posted on 24/2/18
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago
I haven't been a ST holder at Spurs for 7 years because we win things. I do at because of a sense of belonging and love for Spurs. Nothing will change if we win a trophy.
_____________
Now try and look at it from a players point of view.
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Why? The point of this is whether fans will be happy if he is sold? Why should I look at it from Tobys point of view? I will support Spurs after Toby leaves so his "point of view" is irrelevant compared to the view of the club that I supoort.
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Ledders is advocating giving them all another £20 grand a week, so this time next year, they will want another £20 grand a week, and the year after another £20 grand a week.
Why should the club be held hostage to players over their ridiculous wage demands. If Spurs make a real stand, I would for one as they say be Over the Moon, that finally a club has the guts to stand up to greedy players once and for all.
The club will be here long after Toby or Rose or whoever has retired.
posted on 24/2/18
Not lecturing anyone, or telling how to run your Club.
Just giving an opinion.
I have no problem with Spurs and who I support has no baring on it, you either agree with my points or you don't; and you don't have to read it, never mind reply to it.
posted on 24/2/18
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago
I haven't been a ST holder at Spurs for 7 years because we win things. I do at because of a sense of belonging and love for Spurs. Nothing will change if we win a trophy.
_____________
Now try and look at it from a players point of view.
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Why? The point of this is whether fans will be happy if he is sold? Why should I look at it from Tobys point of view? I will support Spurs after Toby leaves so his "point of view" is irrelevant compared to the view of the club that I supoort.
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No that isn’t the point of this. The point of this is the club progressing and that selling a key player will be “bad news” as the OP put it.
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We have progressed well so far with the same rules in place
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Doesn’t mean it’ll continue that way.
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Doesn't mean it won't either
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Ok then in that case the whole world should keep on doing what they’re doing
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I know you are trying to be clever but actually yes, some parts of the world should carry on, others should change. IMO we are heading in the right direction with what we are doing and should continue down the same path. If your opinion is different then fair enough. Not every club needs to change.
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Wrong. You think you know I am trying to be clever.
posted on 24/2/18
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not lecturing anyone, or telling how to run your Club.
Just giving an opinion.
I have no problem with Spurs and who I support has no baring on it, you either agree with my points or you don't; and you don't have to read it, never mind reply to it.
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Your comment was about the club I have supported for 60 years, so why would I not read it, and then not give an opinion on it?
posted on 24/2/18
I thought the end of the world for Spurs came when they sold Bale.
posted on 24/2/18
The stance taken by some spurs fans is laudable, however replacing your best players is never easy.
Personally I think over the next three years you may lose a good few of your best players unless Levy adapts his wage structure.
Let's see if your still keen to back him when Poch and your best players leave. Walker walked, Rose has been openly critical and Toby is reported to have reached an impasse in his contract negotiations.
Liverpool are in a similar boat in someways but we are willing to push the boat out a little further in terms of transfer fee and wages. If your not careful you could have an exodus on your hands and /or an unhappy dressing room of players.
posted on 24/2/18
comment by γ HΡΠΈgΡ+ (U9129)
posted 20 minutes ago
Starting to get like when walker was leaving on here. Posters trying to justify it with a excuses.
When the reality is we are/would be losing a world class CB with inferior players as his replacement.
Our players tomorrow will be watching Walker potentially pick up 1 of his 2 trophies he’ll be winning this season in his first season away from us.
If you think that won’t resonate with our players like Kane & Eriksen for example then you are deluded.
Here’s hoping we come to some sort off compromise and he stays
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This is it. Walker’s decision to leave is being vindicated whether we like to admit it or not. We surely don’t want a situation where more and more of our players feel that they need to do the same.
posted on 24/2/18
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
I thought the end of the world for Spurs came when they sold Bale.
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It did
We finished 6th with Tim Sherwood in charge.
posted on 24/2/18
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 32 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
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posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ledders-Football Manager chump- I only dress up in my donkey gimp outfit for forza, he tugs away to my eeyore braying sound and then leaves me without paying, the tight, hairy, smelly beast (U20121)
posted 5 minutes ago
I haven't been a ST holder at Spurs for 7 years because we win things. I do at because of a sense of belonging and love for Spurs. Nothing will change if we win a trophy.
_____________
Now try and look at it from a players point of view.
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Why? The point of this is whether fans will be happy if he is sold? Why should I look at it from Tobys point of view? I will support Spurs after Toby leaves so his "point of view" is irrelevant compared to the view of the club that I supoort.
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No that isn’t the point of this. The point of this is the club progressing and that selling a key player will be “bad news” as the OP put it.
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We have progressed well so far with the same rules in place
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Doesn’t mean it’ll continue that way.
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Doesn't mean it won't either
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Ok then in that case the whole world should keep on doing what they’re doing
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I know you are trying to be clever but actually yes, some parts of the world should carry on, others should change. IMO we are heading in the right direction with what we are doing and should continue down the same path. If your opinion is different then fair enough. Not every club needs to change.
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Wrong. You think you know I am trying to be clever.
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Do you have any other input to my comment, or just what you said?
posted on 24/2/18
We won`t be winning anything if we keep selling our `finished article` players and replacing them with promising youngsters. Every successful team has proven players throughout their team with a sprinkling of young up and coming talent, not the other way around.
It is naive to think selling Toby and expecting Sanchez and Foyth to be at the same levels in the next couple of seasons, those two are both young and still learning their trade.
It is up to Levy to take us to the next level and keep our key players happy.
I am in no doubt we can afford to raise our wage bill significantly (new stadium or no new stadium) if we really want to, increased revenues on the horizon, increased sponsorship, stadium naming rights and record TV deals etc.
On revenues we are the 11th or 12th biggest club in Europe, and soon to enter the top 10..... it`s time we starting acting like it imo.
posted on 24/2/18
The only top player spurs have sold so far is Bale and he hasn't exactly excelled in the same way since leaving.
posted on 24/2/18
I’m not fussed if we sell Toby since we have Sanchez, Toby seems to pick up injuries and will get worse as he gets older, if we can get massive money for him and push Foyth forward or drop Dier back.
posted on 24/2/18
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posted on 24/2/18
Is it true he has a £24M release clause?
posted on 24/2/18
comment by πππππππππππππ (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Is it true he has a £24M release clause?
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£25m from summer 2019
posted on 24/2/18
HE might have got a game today for us ahead of Matip
posted on 24/2/18
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 5 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by hounslows-finest (U6180)
posted 2 minutes ago
Be a shame if he leaves but we are a well run club and we ain’t doing too badly.
Football has been ruined by money for years and it will get worse.
When a normal bloke can’t afford to take his 2 kids to games then something is wrong.
I don’t blame the players for asking for big money as they know if they’re good enough some club will pay it.
Toby has been outstanding for us and if he leaves then so be it.
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Fans could be let in for free, and you could still pay TA £150,000.00 a week.
Spurs are a well run Club is an odd statement tbh, well run to what end? For what purpose? What is the pount of Spurs?
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This kind of moronic statement is pretty much what’s wrong with football today. Fans who see a club who doesn’t win trophies regularly as “pointless”. Well that makes about 88 clubs in England pointless then. However the millions of fans who go and watch them every week hardly regard it as pointless. Pathetic comment
posted on 24/2/18
Part of what I love about Spurs is that we have always been about more than buying trophies. We have always played attacking football under progressive managers. We have always had strong roots in the local community. We have always had an English core of players who contribute to the national team.
Pundits and other fans think that paying players £200k a week and winning the Champions League is the be all and end all. It is very, very rarely mentioned how Spurs are the only side in the country competing at the very top on a reasonable wage bill with a strong English core of players.
I badly want Toby to stay, but regardless of whether he does or not I will always be proud of the way in which Spurs are trying to achieve things. If the journey results in trophies then brilliant, but I'd rather do it this way and fall just short than buy the league like Chelsea or City. Even failure has an echo of glory and all that
posted on 24/2/18
Toby is a fantastic player and hopefully stays but if it's true that he is demanding £150k and we are offering £110k but the offer is being refused then I'm alright with him leaving.
If you're company doesn't pay you the salary that you demand and you can guarantee that somewhere else then so be it. I don't think Spurs should have to change their wage structure if they're not comfortable with it.
I think it's already progressed. We have more players near the £100k mark than we've done before. Let's not forget that only a few clubs in the world can offer their player's salary of £200k and beyond.
There will always be talent out there happy with a measly £90-110k a week. Whether Toby goes or stays I think we should look at De Ligt from Ajax, another fantastic player who would be able to partner Sanchez.
posted on 24/2/18
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 53 minutes ago
Toby is a fantastic player and hopefully stays but if it's true that he is demanding £150k and we are offering £110k but the offer is being refused then I'm alright with him leaving.
If you're company doesn't pay you the salary that you demand and you can guarantee that somewhere else then so be it. I don't think Spurs should have to change their wage structure if they're not comfortable with it.
I think it's already progressed. We have more players near the £100k mark than we've done before. Let's not forget that only a few clubs in the world can offer their player's salary of £200k and beyond.
There will always be talent out there happy with a measly £90-110k a week. Whether Toby goes or stays I think we should look at De Ligt from Ajax, another fantastic player who would be able to partner Sanchez.
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De Ligt could not partner Sanchez at this time. Both of them too inexperienced.
posted on 24/2/18
In all of this on going discussion of Toby Alderweireld's salary demands, I have not seen a single word from the player himself.
Pochettino is on record a few days ago as saying he himself was not involved in these negotiations. Yes, Poch washed his hands of it!
So something is going on in Levy's office about something.
Personally I do not think Toby would be silly enough to demand a higher pay than Harry Kane is getting. But who knows?
He is 28 and he may think he can get what he wants elsewhere. Or it may all be Levy propaganda and lies.
Others say he has been injured and has lowered his value as a result.
One thing is for sure, the team is best with the CB pair of Vertonghen and Alderwiereld.
I have said this before: I think we had a marginally stronger team last season.
posted on 24/2/18
Just don’t sell to anyone in EPLπ
That’s my only concern for any half-decent player who wants out.
Let him go, but not to anyone in the prem
posted on 24/2/18
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just don’t sell to anyone in EPLπ
That’s my only concern for any half-decent player who wants out.
Let him go, but not to anyone in the prem
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He does not want out. He is said to want a higher salary than Levy is willing to pay.
But the player has said nothing.
Nobody on the outside knows what is going on.
posted on 24/2/18
Hopefully Toby and the club can meet in the middle. I understand it’s importabt to work thin our means but st the same time we won’t find a better defender elsewhere. Need to tie him down so that when we decide we may want to move him on, he’s 32 plus and his best days are behind him
posted on 24/2/18
If we were to increase our 25-Man senior squads wages by an average of 20k a player, that equates to £26m a year. Now let’s be honest, they don’t all deserve a raise so the whole idea that they’ll all come knocking on the door demanding a pay rise isn’t necessarily true, so we would have some room to manoeuvre with some of the better players. It’s a starting point and is a gradual move towards paying what some of our players deserve in truth - a middle ground that some of our fans on here don’t seem to think exists.
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