WBC is a joke
“It’s not corrupt,” Hearn told BoxingScene.com on Wednesday. “One of the problems with the governing bodies are they have so many big players and big promoters that they have to deal with and requests, they try and keep everybody happy. They try and give everybody an opportunity. What they’ve done here is they’ve tried to give someone an opportunity – they may have told Breazeale at the time it was a final eliminator. And then they’ve been put on notice, and then it’s not a final eliminator.
“But I’ve just wasted a lot of money and six, seven, eight months of Dillian Whyte’s career chasing down the mandatory, the No. 1 position in the WBC, whereas if I would’ve knew that this was gonna happen, I wouldn’t have bothered. I would’ve gone another route. I would’ve spent my money elsewhere, you know? So what I’m saying to the WBC is, ‘You can’t tell me that the fight’s not a final eliminator, let us chase that mandatory position – silver title sanctioning fees, big fights for the WBC – and then put us at the back of the queue and order a final eliminator against a guy that’s just been knocked out,’ to say, ‘Oh, that’s to the mandatory after the No. 2 gets his shot.’ ”
Hearn would’ve understood if the WBC simply would’ve allowed Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) to make a voluntary defense against Breazeale because he satisfied his mandatory obligation by destroying Stiverne (25-3-1, 21 KOs) just 5½ months ago. He also understands the WBC wanting Whyte to earn his mandatory position, even against the recently-beaten Ortiz (28-1, 24 KOs, 2 NC).
Skipping over Whyte to reward Breazeale bothers Hearn, though.
“We have no problem taking that fight, which is high-risk, if the reward’s there,” Hearn said regarding Whyte-Ortiz. “And the reward is that you are the mandatory for Deontay Wilder. We’re not the second mandatory [behind] a guy who’s just been made mandatory for no reason. So what I’m saying is, no problem, Wilder against Breazeale, do your thing in a fight no one gives a damn about. Right? But allow Ortiz against Whyte to be a final eliminator for the mandatory for the winner of Breazeale against Wilder.”
By bumping Breazeale ahead of Whyte, into the mandatory position, it theoretically would afford Wilder more time to fight the Whyte-Ortiz winner because he will have satisfied his mandatory obligation against Breazeale sometime this summer.
Of course, this all could become a moot point if Hearn, Al Haymon, who advises Wilder, and Shelly Finkel, Wilder’s co-manager, put together the heavyweight fight everyone really wants to see – Wilder against Anthony Joshua. Lou DiBella, who has promoted many of Wilder’s fights, told BoxingScene.com on Wednesday that Wilder’s team has sent Hearn, who also promotes Joshua, an offer that would guarantee Joshua an astounding $50 million purse to fight Wilder next (https://www.boxingscene.com/team-wilder-send-50-million-offer-joshua-unification--127535).
BoxingScene.com’s interview with Hearn took place Wednesday before that $50 million offer was made public. Regardless of whether the Joshua-Wilder fight happens next, Whyte has another option for his planned July 21 return at O2 Arena in London.
The Jamaican-born, London-based Whyte could battle Bulgaria’s Kubrat Pulev (25-1, 13 KOs) in an IBF elimination match to determine the mandatory challenger for one of the four titles Joshua owns. As much as Whyte wants a shot at Wilder, he also seeks a rematch against Joshua (21-0, 20 KOs), who stopped Whyte in the seventh round of their December 2015 fight at O2 Arena.
“We’ve also got a final eliminator with the IBF, that we’re also negotiating with Kubrat Pulev, to be the mandatory for Joshua,” Hearn said. “But we’ve spent all our time and money to pursue the [WBC], to pursue Deontay Wilder. And now they’re blocking us because they don’t want us, I’m talking about Wilder, don’t want Whyte to be the mandatory, to get his shot. That’s the truth.”
If Whyte-Ortiz materializes, Hearn is certain it would sell out the O2 Arena.
“We had massive viewing figures for Dillian Whyte’s last fight,” Hearn said, referring to Whyte’s sixth-round knockout of Australia’s Lucas Browne on March 24 at O2 Arena. “He’s becoming a big star in the UK right now. Would love to do Dillian Whyte against Luis Ortiz at the O2. Would love to do Dillian Whyte against Kubrat Pulev at the O2. He’s got big fights coming his way. He’s just staying patient.
“He calls me like a hundred times a day, asking, ‘What the f***’s going on?’ And this has p!ssed him off because we’ve been chasing Wilder, we’ve been chasing that No. 1 spot. We are No. 1. So now you went No. 1 against No. 4 in a final eliminator and make No. 2 the mandatory.”
Fancy Bellew to beat Haye again tbh, just think he has his number and Haye's finished, he's never fully fit even when he makes it to a fight, and he's had what 3 fights in 6 years? 1 he snapped his achilles in and lost, and the other 2 were 1 rounds vs pub fighters. Could see how off his timing and balance and accuracy was in the first fight
Bellew's just too crafty and ring savvy for him, style doesn't suit Haye at all
dont think Whyte will face King Kong. Hearn was talking about favouring going down the Pulev route as Whyte only really wants Wilder or AJ again. If he wins against Pulev he will become mando for AJ. The WBC dont seem intersted in making Whyte Mando for Wilder as it looks like they have already signed up to fight Brezeale. Apparantly Hearn wants to get the Wilder - Aj fight signed up next and has a meeting with Wilders team whilst he is over the states for the Jacobs fight.
WBC just do what they want as and when they want to. Joke belt !
what happened with the charity fight that you said you doing?
So bored of the AJ Vs Wilder will they won't they saga. Could care less about how much money either of them will make or about all the corrupt boxing organisations. Wake me up when they eventually make the fight. Probably 2020/2021.
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury, 2018 RETURN OF THE MACK! 201... (U12980)
posted 10 hours, 46 minutes ago
Fancy Bellew to beat Haye again tbh, just think he has his number and Haye's finished, he's never fully fit even when he makes it to a fight, and he's had what 3 fights in 6 years? 1 he snapped his achilles in and lost, and the other 2 were 1 rounds vs pub fighters. Could see how off his timing and balance and accuracy was in the first fight
Bellew's just too crafty and ring savvy for him, style doesn't suit Haye at all
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Yup I'm also starting to suspect that Bellew is probably just a bit too savvy for this injury prone, over the hill version of Haye. Five or six years ago it may have been a different story but Bellew seems to know how to neutralise him. Will probably be Haye's last fight.
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 5 hours, 34 minutes ago
what happened with the charity fight that you said you doing?
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Just replied on that thread.
AJ’s talks with Wilder seem to have gone a bit stale. Ball is well and truly in his court at the moment. Personally I’d rather Fury/Whyte/Haye fought Wilder and set up an all British unification bout. Think all 3 would take him too.
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Wilder beats all 3
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 51 minutes ago
AJ’s talks with Wilder seem to have gone a bit stale. Ball is well and truly in his court at the moment. Personally I’d rather Fury/Whyte/Haye fought Wilder and set up an all British unification bout. Think all 3 would take him too.
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Wilder beats all 3
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Interesting, what’s this based on?
Haye has already bounced him round in sparring and almost KO’d him with heavy gloves and head guard. A while ago yes but still relevant.
Fury is a better boxer and don’t think Wilder would land.
Whyte would be a tear up, but Ortiz caused Wilder huge problems and I’m sure Dillian could do the same.
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 51 minutes ago
AJ’s talks with Wilder seem to have gone a bit stale. Ball is well and truly in his court at the moment. Personally I’d rather Fury/Whyte/Haye fought Wilder and set up an all British unification bout. Think all 3 would take him too.
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Wilder beats all 3
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Interesting, what’s this based on?
Haye has already bounced him round in sparring and almost KO’d him with heavy gloves and head guard. A while ago yes but still relevant.
Fury is a better boxer and don’t think Wilder would land.
Whyte would be a tear up, but Ortiz caused Wilder huge problems and I’m sure Dillian could do the same.
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Whilst I dont exactly agree Wilder beats them all, he is more than capable of wiping them all out. He hits harder than all three. No ifs no buts, if Wilder catches any of them three clean they sleep. AJ can outbox and KO him, Fury can defo outbox him with ease, haye is simply to far gone now and he would lose now I think....3/4 years Haye wipes him out, not sure he has the tools anymore.
As I said though if Wilder lands flush with a big shot then its night night for all of them. That being said he is also the most vulnerable out the lot IMO
Wilder showed against Ortiz for the first time he has a chin and has heart.
Fury has to be the most overated boxer on the planet... put on his ass by Cunningham, and beat Klit in what was probably his worst ever performance.
other than that, other than verbally, he has done nothing.
Haye just doesnt have the heart anymore, maybe 5 years ago.
the best match up would be whyte... in fact whyte beats fury for me too
Wilder would have been finished in that moment against Ortiz if he wasnt so old and gassed. No surprise that after the next round following that Ortiz had nothing left at all.
If you dont rate Fury as at least a decent technical boxer for his size then your opinion loses validity as far as Im concerned. He is capable at the very least. Whyte does not beat Fury for me.
Fury done a job on Chisora that no one else has ever done, same with Hammer. He completely toyed with them both, like he was doing with Cunningham before getting put down (Tyson was in awful shape for that fight also)
Haye did well 😂😂😂😂
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posted on 26/4/18
WBC is a joke
“It’s not corrupt,” Hearn told BoxingScene.com on Wednesday. “One of the problems with the governing bodies are they have so many big players and big promoters that they have to deal with and requests, they try and keep everybody happy. They try and give everybody an opportunity. What they’ve done here is they’ve tried to give someone an opportunity – they may have told Breazeale at the time it was a final eliminator. And then they’ve been put on notice, and then it’s not a final eliminator.
“But I’ve just wasted a lot of money and six, seven, eight months of Dillian Whyte’s career chasing down the mandatory, the No. 1 position in the WBC, whereas if I would’ve knew that this was gonna happen, I wouldn’t have bothered. I would’ve gone another route. I would’ve spent my money elsewhere, you know? So what I’m saying to the WBC is, ‘You can’t tell me that the fight’s not a final eliminator, let us chase that mandatory position – silver title sanctioning fees, big fights for the WBC – and then put us at the back of the queue and order a final eliminator against a guy that’s just been knocked out,’ to say, ‘Oh, that’s to the mandatory after the No. 2 gets his shot.’ ”
Hearn would’ve understood if the WBC simply would’ve allowed Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) to make a voluntary defense against Breazeale because he satisfied his mandatory obligation by destroying Stiverne (25-3-1, 21 KOs) just 5½ months ago. He also understands the WBC wanting Whyte to earn his mandatory position, even against the recently-beaten Ortiz (28-1, 24 KOs, 2 NC).
Skipping over Whyte to reward Breazeale bothers Hearn, though.
“We have no problem taking that fight, which is high-risk, if the reward’s there,” Hearn said regarding Whyte-Ortiz. “And the reward is that you are the mandatory for Deontay Wilder. We’re not the second mandatory [behind] a guy who’s just been made mandatory for no reason. So what I’m saying is, no problem, Wilder against Breazeale, do your thing in a fight no one gives a damn about. Right? But allow Ortiz against Whyte to be a final eliminator for the mandatory for the winner of Breazeale against Wilder.”
By bumping Breazeale ahead of Whyte, into the mandatory position, it theoretically would afford Wilder more time to fight the Whyte-Ortiz winner because he will have satisfied his mandatory obligation against Breazeale sometime this summer.
Of course, this all could become a moot point if Hearn, Al Haymon, who advises Wilder, and Shelly Finkel, Wilder’s co-manager, put together the heavyweight fight everyone really wants to see – Wilder against Anthony Joshua. Lou DiBella, who has promoted many of Wilder’s fights, told BoxingScene.com on Wednesday that Wilder’s team has sent Hearn, who also promotes Joshua, an offer that would guarantee Joshua an astounding $50 million purse to fight Wilder next (https://www.boxingscene.com/team-wilder-send-50-million-offer-joshua-unification--127535).
BoxingScene.com’s interview with Hearn took place Wednesday before that $50 million offer was made public. Regardless of whether the Joshua-Wilder fight happens next, Whyte has another option for his planned July 21 return at O2 Arena in London.
The Jamaican-born, London-based Whyte could battle Bulgaria’s Kubrat Pulev (25-1, 13 KOs) in an IBF elimination match to determine the mandatory challenger for one of the four titles Joshua owns. As much as Whyte wants a shot at Wilder, he also seeks a rematch against Joshua (21-0, 20 KOs), who stopped Whyte in the seventh round of their December 2015 fight at O2 Arena.
“We’ve also got a final eliminator with the IBF, that we’re also negotiating with Kubrat Pulev, to be the mandatory for Joshua,” Hearn said. “But we’ve spent all our time and money to pursue the [WBC], to pursue Deontay Wilder. And now they’re blocking us because they don’t want us, I’m talking about Wilder, don’t want Whyte to be the mandatory, to get his shot. That’s the truth.”
If Whyte-Ortiz materializes, Hearn is certain it would sell out the O2 Arena.
“We had massive viewing figures for Dillian Whyte’s last fight,” Hearn said, referring to Whyte’s sixth-round knockout of Australia’s Lucas Browne on March 24 at O2 Arena. “He’s becoming a big star in the UK right now. Would love to do Dillian Whyte against Luis Ortiz at the O2. Would love to do Dillian Whyte against Kubrat Pulev at the O2. He’s got big fights coming his way. He’s just staying patient.
“He calls me like a hundred times a day, asking, ‘What the f***’s going on?’ And this has p!ssed him off because we’ve been chasing Wilder, we’ve been chasing that No. 1 spot. We are No. 1. So now you went No. 1 against No. 4 in a final eliminator and make No. 2 the mandatory.”
posted on 26/4/18
Fancy Bellew to beat Haye again tbh, just think he has his number and Haye's finished, he's never fully fit even when he makes it to a fight, and he's had what 3 fights in 6 years? 1 he snapped his achilles in and lost, and the other 2 were 1 rounds vs pub fighters. Could see how off his timing and balance and accuracy was in the first fight
Bellew's just too crafty and ring savvy for him, style doesn't suit Haye at all
posted on 26/4/18
dont think Whyte will face King Kong. Hearn was talking about favouring going down the Pulev route as Whyte only really wants Wilder or AJ again. If he wins against Pulev he will become mando for AJ. The WBC dont seem intersted in making Whyte Mando for Wilder as it looks like they have already signed up to fight Brezeale. Apparantly Hearn wants to get the Wilder - Aj fight signed up next and has a meeting with Wilders team whilst he is over the states for the Jacobs fight.
WBC just do what they want as and when they want to. Joke belt !
posted on 26/4/18
what happened with the charity fight that you said you doing?
posted on 26/4/18
So bored of the AJ Vs Wilder will they won't they saga. Could care less about how much money either of them will make or about all the corrupt boxing organisations. Wake me up when they eventually make the fight. Probably 2020/2021.
posted on 26/4/18
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury, 2018 RETURN OF THE MACK! 201... (U12980)
posted 10 hours, 46 minutes ago
Fancy Bellew to beat Haye again tbh, just think he has his number and Haye's finished, he's never fully fit even when he makes it to a fight, and he's had what 3 fights in 6 years? 1 he snapped his achilles in and lost, and the other 2 were 1 rounds vs pub fighters. Could see how off his timing and balance and accuracy was in the first fight
Bellew's just too crafty and ring savvy for him, style doesn't suit Haye at all
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Yup I'm also starting to suspect that Bellew is probably just a bit too savvy for this injury prone, over the hill version of Haye. Five or six years ago it may have been a different story but Bellew seems to know how to neutralise him. Will probably be Haye's last fight.
posted on 26/4/18
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 5 hours, 34 minutes ago
what happened with the charity fight that you said you doing?
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Just replied on that thread.
posted on 27/4/18
AJ’s talks with Wilder seem to have gone a bit stale. Ball is well and truly in his court at the moment. Personally I’d rather Fury/Whyte/Haye fought Wilder and set up an all British unification bout. Think all 3 would take him too.
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Wilder beats all 3
posted on 27/4/18
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 51 minutes ago
AJ’s talks with Wilder seem to have gone a bit stale. Ball is well and truly in his court at the moment. Personally I’d rather Fury/Whyte/Haye fought Wilder and set up an all British unification bout. Think all 3 would take him too.
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Wilder beats all 3
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Interesting, what’s this based on?
Haye has already bounced him round in sparring and almost KO’d him with heavy gloves and head guard. A while ago yes but still relevant.
Fury is a better boxer and don’t think Wilder would land.
Whyte would be a tear up, but Ortiz caused Wilder huge problems and I’m sure Dillian could do the same.
posted on 27/4/18
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 51 minutes ago
AJ’s talks with Wilder seem to have gone a bit stale. Ball is well and truly in his court at the moment. Personally I’d rather Fury/Whyte/Haye fought Wilder and set up an all British unification bout. Think all 3 would take him too.
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Wilder beats all 3
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Interesting, what’s this based on?
Haye has already bounced him round in sparring and almost KO’d him with heavy gloves and head guard. A while ago yes but still relevant.
Fury is a better boxer and don’t think Wilder would land.
Whyte would be a tear up, but Ortiz caused Wilder huge problems and I’m sure Dillian could do the same.
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Whilst I dont exactly agree Wilder beats them all, he is more than capable of wiping them all out. He hits harder than all three. No ifs no buts, if Wilder catches any of them three clean they sleep. AJ can outbox and KO him, Fury can defo outbox him with ease, haye is simply to far gone now and he would lose now I think....3/4 years Haye wipes him out, not sure he has the tools anymore.
As I said though if Wilder lands flush with a big shot then its night night for all of them. That being said he is also the most vulnerable out the lot IMO
posted on 27/4/18
Wilder showed against Ortiz for the first time he has a chin and has heart.
Fury has to be the most overated boxer on the planet... put on his ass by Cunningham, and beat Klit in what was probably his worst ever performance.
other than that, other than verbally, he has done nothing.
Haye just doesnt have the heart anymore, maybe 5 years ago.
the best match up would be whyte... in fact whyte beats fury for me too
posted on 27/4/18
Wilder would have been finished in that moment against Ortiz if he wasnt so old and gassed. No surprise that after the next round following that Ortiz had nothing left at all.
If you dont rate Fury as at least a decent technical boxer for his size then your opinion loses validity as far as Im concerned. He is capable at the very least. Whyte does not beat Fury for me.
Fury done a job on Chisora that no one else has ever done, same with Hammer. He completely toyed with them both, like he was doing with Cunningham before getting put down (Tyson was in awful shape for that fight also)
posted on 8/5/18
Haye did well 😂😂😂😂
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