comment by * and Obelix - Super Duper World Euro Champ19n... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by * and Obelix - Super Duper World Euro Champ19n... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
The future of the MCU looks like Brie Larson's Captain Marvel heading the Avengers and Natalie Portman playing Thor. Good luck with that.
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This is not realistic. You must be a lover of DC and want them to do well, no?
The question is, will DC ever reach the level we've already seen from the MCU so far? I doubt they ever will unless they reboot nearly everything. Their foundations are utter rubbish IMO.
Growing up I liked DC more that Marvel but only by a slice of a nose. Had to admit that Marvel are wipin the floor with them. If they do what you said in the coming years I will be glad but I just don't see it.
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Why is it not realistic ? From everything I've heard that's exactly what is being planned. Brie Larson's Captain Marvel is going to take Cap's role as the head of the Avengers and Natalie Portman is set to replace Hemsworth as Thor.
If that's not true then please correct me by all means.
And if it is true then it sounds like an awful idea. Very few people like Brie Larson's Captain Marvel character and does anyone really want to see Thor's girlfriend become Thor ? I certainly don't. That's the PC direction that Disney appear to be taking the MCU though.
I'm a very concerned fan who has loved the last decade of the MCU and just because I'm questioning that it doesn't make me a DC fan. That's a ridiculous assumption.
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It was more of a query
Who else would you have leading the avengers? Iron man is dead, Cap is dead. I dunno but maybe it's not permanent and will lead to something else etc.
Lady Thor is a genuine story line from the comic books, which is another thing I think Marvel could do better but still, they do it better than DC.
No need to pre judge IMO. Lady Thor will not replace Thor. In fact it could turn out decent. Thor movies have a lot of good humour and the manner in which she becomes Lady Thor in the comic books is a bit humorous.
I think she'll somehow become worthy of wielding Mjolnir but probably won't replace Thor, who might still have Stormbreaker.
You never know so it may turn out crap but I can't be less confident in Marvel than DC judging from previous performance. Look at Wonder Woman. The stand alone movie was great IMO but the follow up in BvS just makes it all a bit pointless.
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I'm a fan of both Marvel and DC. And I've enjoyed very good movies from both over the years. The MCU is a truly fantastic construction but judging by some comments on here you'd think that we've never had a good DC movie.
And I'm well aware that Lady Thor is a storyline from the comics, a very unsuccessful storyline though I might add. It wasn't well received either critically or commercially.
As for Lady Thor not permanently replacing Thor in the MCU you don't know that. There's plenty of reasons to believe that it might be a permanent change, especially considering the PC direction that the MCU appears to be heading now.
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 4 hours, 2 minutes ago
Look at Wonder Woman. The stand alone movie was great IMO but the follow up in BvS just makes it all a bit pointless.
you mean justice league? theres a completely different ending in zaks version in which characters aren't made to look pathetic compared to superman,(wont go into detail)
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Why not go into detail?
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by * and Obelix - Super Duper World Euro Champ19n... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by * and Obelix - Super Duper World Euro Champ19n... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
The future of the MCU looks like Brie Larson's Captain Marvel heading the Avengers and Natalie Portman playing Thor. Good luck with that.
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This is not realistic. You must be a lover of DC and want them to do well, no?
The question is, will DC ever reach the level we've already seen from the MCU so far? I doubt they ever will unless they reboot nearly everything. Their foundations are utter rubbish IMO.
Growing up I liked DC more that Marvel but only by a slice of a nose. Had to admit that Marvel are wipin the floor with them. If they do what you said in the coming years I will be glad but I just don't see it.
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Why is it not realistic ? From everything I've heard that's exactly what is being planned. Brie Larson's Captain Marvel is going to take Cap's role as the head of the Avengers and Natalie Portman is set to replace Hemsworth as Thor.
If that's not true then please correct me by all means.
And if it is true then it sounds like an awful idea. Very few people like Brie Larson's Captain Marvel character and does anyone really want to see Thor's girlfriend become Thor ? I certainly don't. That's the PC direction that Disney appear to be taking the MCU though.
I'm a very concerned fan who has loved the last decade of the MCU and just because I'm questioning that it doesn't make me a DC fan. That's a ridiculous assumption.
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It was more of a query
Who else would you have leading the avengers? Iron man is dead, Cap is dead. I dunno but maybe it's not permanent and will lead to something else etc.
Lady Thor is a genuine story line from the comic books, which is another thing I think Marvel could do better but still, they do it better than DC.
No need to pre judge IMO. Lady Thor will not replace Thor. In fact it could turn out decent. Thor movies have a lot of good humour and the manner in which she becomes Lady Thor in the comic books is a bit humorous.
I think she'll somehow become worthy of wielding Mjolnir but probably won't replace Thor, who might still have Stormbreaker.
You never know so it may turn out crap but I can't be less confident in Marvel than DC judging from previous performance. Look at Wonder Woman. The stand alone movie was great IMO but the follow up in BvS just makes it all a bit pointless.
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I'm a fan of both Marvel and DC. And I've enjoyed very good movies from both over the years. The MCU is a truly fantastic construction but judging by some comments on here you'd think that we've never had a good DC movie.
And I'm well aware that Lady Thor is a storyline from the comics, a very unsuccessful storyline though I might add. It wasn't well received either critically or commercially.
As for Lady Thor not permanently replacing Thor in the MCU you don't know that. There's plenty of reasons to believe that it might be a permanent change, especially considering the PC direction that the MCU appears to be heading now.
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What's your basis for saying it wasn't well received? I did some googling and it seems it had a decent reception so I dunno there... It certainly wasn't "very unsuccessful" from what I've read.
I don't know if Lady Thor will replace Thor permanently, but neither do you tbh. Hemsworth can't be Thor forever. They could be planning some sort of transition. Lady Thor will probably a character on her own who might keep the flame burning rather than a permanent replacement.
There's no way they can just permanently do away with Thor IMO, he's worth a lot of money. It would be temporary or both at the same time with Thor hilariously having no powers perhaps?
Iron man is done, Cap is done. Only Thor is getting a fourth movie which shows its making money. As you've mentioned, the MCU is more advanced and they have to do these things and build stories. They do it better than DC. Can't be telling the same story every time as well. They are creative and more aware than DC.
DC have already ruined some brilliant comic book story lines that sold a lot in print. Good/bad comic book reception does not necessarily mean screen reception will correspond. Some story lines will translate to TV better than others.
Have to wait and see. At the end of the day a good movie can be about anything. If they make a good movie then that's what matters.
Marvel’s too politically correct for Superb. He wasn’t happy about the scene in End Game with all the female super heroes in one shot.
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Marvel’s too politically correct for Superb. He wasn’t happy about the scene in End Game with all the female super heroes in one shot.
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Oh yeah I remember that
comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Marvel’s too politically correct for Superb. He wasn’t happy about the scene in End Game with all the female super heroes in one shot.
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Oh yeah I remember that
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Because it was completely forced and clearly pandering to the PC brigade.
I don't know if Lady Thor will replace Thor permanently, but neither do you tbh. Hemsworth can't be Thor forever. They could be planning some sort of transition. Lady Thor will probably a character on her own who might keep the flame burning rather than a permanent replacement
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But you previously just said "Lady Thor will not replace Thor" with a lot of certainty. You've shifted your position over the space of a couple of comments.
The fact is that neither of us know if Natalie Portman is going to be a permanent replacement but I've heard that Chris Hemsworth is very unhappy about things which lends a lot of credibility to the idea that it is a permanent change:
https://youtu.be/-H6foY6a6ag
What's your basis for saying it wasn't well received? I did some googling and it seems it had a decent reception so I dunno there... It certainly wasn't "very unsuccessful" from what I've read.
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My basis for saying that it wasn't well received is because it wasn't well received. It's wasn't a hit storyline at all. Very unsuccessful might not be quite accurate. Rather not successful at all if that makes you happier.
The point being that making Thor female was not a popular thing in the comics so there's nothing to back up that it will be a successful concept if done onscreen.
The internet reaction to Natalie Portman becoming Thor seems very negative from what I've seen anyway. Just look at the comments on the vid I posted above.
And I'm all for good female comic book characters but there's no need to hijack established and very popular male characters like Thor in order to achieve that.
I think we all can see that superb is a sexist
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 17 minutes ago
What's your basis for saying it wasn't well received? I did some googling and it seems it had a decent reception so I dunno there... It certainly wasn't "very unsuccessful" from what I've read.
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My basis for saying that it wasn't well received is because it wasn't well received. It's wasn't a hit storyline at all. Very unsuccessful might not be quite accurate. Rather not successful at all if that makes you happier.
The point being that making Thor female was not a popular thing in the comics so there's nothing to back up that it will be a successful concept if done onscreen.
The internet reaction to Natalie Portman becoming Thor seems very negative from what I've seen anyway. Just look at the comments on the vid I posted above.
And I'm all for good female comic book characters but there's no need to hijack established and very popular male characters like Thor in order to achieve that.
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They still trying to flog yet another tpointless Sequel? Without the star? What’s the point?
comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
I think we all can see that superb is a sexist
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Not at all. I'm all for good original female characters, always have been and I'm particularly looking forward to Wonder Woman 1984.
But if you're happy with the excellent Chris Hemsworth potentially given the boot permanently as Thor so that Natalie Portman can be Thor from phase 4 onwards then good for you
But you previously just said "Lady Thor will not replace Thor" with a lot of certainty. You've shifted your position over the space of a couple of comments.
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It's not a shift in position. I assumed you know that I don't work for Marvel and therefore its all speculation and rumour. Didn't know I need to add that caveat to every comment. A bit of semantics there.
What's your basis for saying she might permanently replace Thor? I haven't seen any suggestion it's permanent. In the comic books she loses her powers eventually and it's obvious that Thor will be back at some point. Its just another story line.
The fact is that neither of us know if Natalie Portman is going to be a permanent replacement but I've heard that Chris Hemsworth is very unhappy about things which lends a lot of credibility to the idea that it is a permanent change:
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Does it?
They've retained him and he still has a contract and that's more telling for the medium to long term.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
I think we all can see that superb is a sexist
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Not at all. I'm all for good original female characters, always have been and I'm particularly looking forward to Wonder Woman 1984.
But if you're happy with the excellent Chris Hemsworth potentially given the boot permanently as Thor so that Natalie Portman can be Thor from phase 4 onwards then good for you
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I would say he’s had a good run tbf. 4 standalone and 4 joint films is quite a lot.
Anyway I assume he’s signed a new contract for Thor 4 as his last contract run out with endgame.
He’ll probably be around for a while yet
I don't want to get into semantics either but you went from saying "Lady Thor will not replace Thor" to "I don't know if Lady Thor will replace Thor permanently". So hopefully you can understand my confusion on your position.
My basis for saying that it might be permanent are the reports on Hemsworth's alleged unhappiness on the issue and that Disney seem very keen to make the Avengers much more diverse with Brie Larson's Captain Marvel set to become the leader of the Avengers.
Obviously I hope the rumours are wrong as Hemsworth has been a brilliant Thor and I want to see much more of him in the MCU.
“ My basis for saying that it might be permanent are the reports on Hemsworth's alleged unhappiness on the issue and that Disney seem very keen to make the Avengers much more diverse with Brie Larson's Captain Marvel set to become the leader of the Avengers.”
So Thor is a sexist like you then
How am I a sexist ? Because I like and have always liked original female characters and want to see more of them ? Nice try mate
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
How am I a sexist ? Because I like and have always liked original female characters and want to see more of them ? Nice try mate
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Yep like when a racist says he can’t be as he has a black friend.
I see through you.
They've retained him and he still has a contract and that's more telling for the medium to long term.
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Anyway I assume he’s signed a new contract for Thor 4 as his last contract run out with endgame.
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Which one is it then ?? One of you saying that Hemsworth's contract ran out already since Endgame and the other saying that he still has a long contract.
comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 5 minutes ago
“ My basis for saying that it might be permanent are the reports on Hemsworth's alleged unhappiness on the issue and that Disney seem very keen to make the Avengers much more diverse with Brie Larson's Captain Marvel set to become the leader of the Avengers.”
So Thor is a sexist like you then
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comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
How am I a sexist ? Because I like and have always liked original female characters and want to see more of them ? Nice try mate
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Yep like when a racist says he can’t be as he has a black friend.
I see through you.
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Give it a rest mate. I haven't said anything sexist. You're just a Marvel fan boy who can't have anything remotely negative said about the MCU. I see through you
With the introduction of the Eternals, Captain Marvel and potentially Fantastic Four, it’s appears that Marvel are going down a road where the power level of the villains are going to be huge.
Captain Marvel, as the strongest character, being the leader makes sense. Though you’d suspect that Reed Richards and maybe Dr. Strange will have important roles in that phase 5.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 37 seconds ago
I don't want to get into semantics either but you went from saying "Lady Thor will not replace Thor" to "I don't know if Lady Thor will replace Thor permanently". So hopefully you can understand my confusion on your position.
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Ok, I should have said that it was my opinion and not fact. I thought that's obvious tbh. I don't see how it's confusing.
Are you saying that your understanding is that I was categorically saying it wouldn't happen? If you assumed the same for every comment in this thread then you'd be pulling everyone up. You're interpreting that particular comment to a different standard than usual for this thread IMO but I agree with the last part. Perhaps Thor has been my favourite and I'd hate to see anything change permanently. A short change might be good though.
Are you saying that your understanding is that I was categorically saying it wouldn't happen?
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Yes it was. After you said:
"No need to pre judge IMO. Lady Thor will not replace Thor. In fact it could turn out decent. Thor movies have a lot of good humour and the manner in which she becomes Lady Thor in the comic books is a bit humorous".
Again not wanting to get into semantics, but to answer your question.
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posted on 6/7/20
comment by * and Obelix - Super Duper World Euro Champ19n... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by * and Obelix - Super Duper World Euro Champ19n... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
The future of the MCU looks like Brie Larson's Captain Marvel heading the Avengers and Natalie Portman playing Thor. Good luck with that.
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This is not realistic. You must be a lover of DC and want them to do well, no?
The question is, will DC ever reach the level we've already seen from the MCU so far? I doubt they ever will unless they reboot nearly everything. Their foundations are utter rubbish IMO.
Growing up I liked DC more that Marvel but only by a slice of a nose. Had to admit that Marvel are wipin the floor with them. If they do what you said in the coming years I will be glad but I just don't see it.
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Why is it not realistic ? From everything I've heard that's exactly what is being planned. Brie Larson's Captain Marvel is going to take Cap's role as the head of the Avengers and Natalie Portman is set to replace Hemsworth as Thor.
If that's not true then please correct me by all means.
And if it is true then it sounds like an awful idea. Very few people like Brie Larson's Captain Marvel character and does anyone really want to see Thor's girlfriend become Thor ? I certainly don't. That's the PC direction that Disney appear to be taking the MCU though.
I'm a very concerned fan who has loved the last decade of the MCU and just because I'm questioning that it doesn't make me a DC fan. That's a ridiculous assumption.
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It was more of a query
Who else would you have leading the avengers? Iron man is dead, Cap is dead. I dunno but maybe it's not permanent and will lead to something else etc.
Lady Thor is a genuine story line from the comic books, which is another thing I think Marvel could do better but still, they do it better than DC.
No need to pre judge IMO. Lady Thor will not replace Thor. In fact it could turn out decent. Thor movies have a lot of good humour and the manner in which she becomes Lady Thor in the comic books is a bit humorous.
I think she'll somehow become worthy of wielding Mjolnir but probably won't replace Thor, who might still have Stormbreaker.
You never know so it may turn out crap but I can't be less confident in Marvel than DC judging from previous performance. Look at Wonder Woman. The stand alone movie was great IMO but the follow up in BvS just makes it all a bit pointless.
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I'm a fan of both Marvel and DC. And I've enjoyed very good movies from both over the years. The MCU is a truly fantastic construction but judging by some comments on here you'd think that we've never had a good DC movie.
And I'm well aware that Lady Thor is a storyline from the comics, a very unsuccessful storyline though I might add. It wasn't well received either critically or commercially.
As for Lady Thor not permanently replacing Thor in the MCU you don't know that. There's plenty of reasons to believe that it might be a permanent change, especially considering the PC direction that the MCU appears to be heading now.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 4 hours, 2 minutes ago
Look at Wonder Woman. The stand alone movie was great IMO but the follow up in BvS just makes it all a bit pointless.
you mean justice league? theres a completely different ending in zaks version in which characters aren't made to look pathetic compared to superman,(wont go into detail)
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Why not go into detail?
posted on 6/7/20
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by * and Obelix - Super Duper World Euro Champ19n... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by * and Obelix - Super Duper World Euro Champ19n... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
The future of the MCU looks like Brie Larson's Captain Marvel heading the Avengers and Natalie Portman playing Thor. Good luck with that.
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This is not realistic. You must be a lover of DC and want them to do well, no?
The question is, will DC ever reach the level we've already seen from the MCU so far? I doubt they ever will unless they reboot nearly everything. Their foundations are utter rubbish IMO.
Growing up I liked DC more that Marvel but only by a slice of a nose. Had to admit that Marvel are wipin the floor with them. If they do what you said in the coming years I will be glad but I just don't see it.
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Why is it not realistic ? From everything I've heard that's exactly what is being planned. Brie Larson's Captain Marvel is going to take Cap's role as the head of the Avengers and Natalie Portman is set to replace Hemsworth as Thor.
If that's not true then please correct me by all means.
And if it is true then it sounds like an awful idea. Very few people like Brie Larson's Captain Marvel character and does anyone really want to see Thor's girlfriend become Thor ? I certainly don't. That's the PC direction that Disney appear to be taking the MCU though.
I'm a very concerned fan who has loved the last decade of the MCU and just because I'm questioning that it doesn't make me a DC fan. That's a ridiculous assumption.
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It was more of a query
Who else would you have leading the avengers? Iron man is dead, Cap is dead. I dunno but maybe it's not permanent and will lead to something else etc.
Lady Thor is a genuine story line from the comic books, which is another thing I think Marvel could do better but still, they do it better than DC.
No need to pre judge IMO. Lady Thor will not replace Thor. In fact it could turn out decent. Thor movies have a lot of good humour and the manner in which she becomes Lady Thor in the comic books is a bit humorous.
I think she'll somehow become worthy of wielding Mjolnir but probably won't replace Thor, who might still have Stormbreaker.
You never know so it may turn out crap but I can't be less confident in Marvel than DC judging from previous performance. Look at Wonder Woman. The stand alone movie was great IMO but the follow up in BvS just makes it all a bit pointless.
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I'm a fan of both Marvel and DC. And I've enjoyed very good movies from both over the years. The MCU is a truly fantastic construction but judging by some comments on here you'd think that we've never had a good DC movie.
And I'm well aware that Lady Thor is a storyline from the comics, a very unsuccessful storyline though I might add. It wasn't well received either critically or commercially.
As for Lady Thor not permanently replacing Thor in the MCU you don't know that. There's plenty of reasons to believe that it might be a permanent change, especially considering the PC direction that the MCU appears to be heading now.
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What's your basis for saying it wasn't well received? I did some googling and it seems it had a decent reception so I dunno there... It certainly wasn't "very unsuccessful" from what I've read.
I don't know if Lady Thor will replace Thor permanently, but neither do you tbh. Hemsworth can't be Thor forever. They could be planning some sort of transition. Lady Thor will probably a character on her own who might keep the flame burning rather than a permanent replacement.
There's no way they can just permanently do away with Thor IMO, he's worth a lot of money. It would be temporary or both at the same time with Thor hilariously having no powers perhaps?
Iron man is done, Cap is done. Only Thor is getting a fourth movie which shows its making money. As you've mentioned, the MCU is more advanced and they have to do these things and build stories. They do it better than DC. Can't be telling the same story every time as well. They are creative and more aware than DC.
DC have already ruined some brilliant comic book story lines that sold a lot in print. Good/bad comic book reception does not necessarily mean screen reception will correspond. Some story lines will translate to TV better than others.
Have to wait and see. At the end of the day a good movie can be about anything. If they make a good movie then that's what matters.
posted on 6/7/20
Marvel’s too politically correct for Superb. He wasn’t happy about the scene in End Game with all the female super heroes in one shot.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Marvel’s too politically correct for Superb. He wasn’t happy about the scene in End Game with all the female super heroes in one shot.
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Oh yeah I remember that
posted on 6/7/20
comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Marvel’s too politically correct for Superb. He wasn’t happy about the scene in End Game with all the female super heroes in one shot.
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Oh yeah I remember that
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posted on 6/7/20
Because it was completely forced and clearly pandering to the PC brigade.
posted on 6/7/20
I don't know if Lady Thor will replace Thor permanently, but neither do you tbh. Hemsworth can't be Thor forever. They could be planning some sort of transition. Lady Thor will probably a character on her own who might keep the flame burning rather than a permanent replacement
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But you previously just said "Lady Thor will not replace Thor" with a lot of certainty. You've shifted your position over the space of a couple of comments.
The fact is that neither of us know if Natalie Portman is going to be a permanent replacement but I've heard that Chris Hemsworth is very unhappy about things which lends a lot of credibility to the idea that it is a permanent change:
https://youtu.be/-H6foY6a6ag
posted on 6/7/20
What's your basis for saying it wasn't well received? I did some googling and it seems it had a decent reception so I dunno there... It certainly wasn't "very unsuccessful" from what I've read.
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My basis for saying that it wasn't well received is because it wasn't well received. It's wasn't a hit storyline at all. Very unsuccessful might not be quite accurate. Rather not successful at all if that makes you happier.
The point being that making Thor female was not a popular thing in the comics so there's nothing to back up that it will be a successful concept if done onscreen.
The internet reaction to Natalie Portman becoming Thor seems very negative from what I've seen anyway. Just look at the comments on the vid I posted above.
And I'm all for good female comic book characters but there's no need to hijack established and very popular male characters like Thor in order to achieve that.
posted on 6/7/20
I think we all can see that superb is a sexist
posted on 6/7/20
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 17 minutes ago
What's your basis for saying it wasn't well received? I did some googling and it seems it had a decent reception so I dunno there... It certainly wasn't "very unsuccessful" from what I've read.
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My basis for saying that it wasn't well received is because it wasn't well received. It's wasn't a hit storyline at all. Very unsuccessful might not be quite accurate. Rather not successful at all if that makes you happier.
The point being that making Thor female was not a popular thing in the comics so there's nothing to back up that it will be a successful concept if done onscreen.
The internet reaction to Natalie Portman becoming Thor seems very negative from what I've seen anyway. Just look at the comments on the vid I posted above.
And I'm all for good female comic book characters but there's no need to hijack established and very popular male characters like Thor in order to achieve that.
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They still trying to flog yet another tpointless Sequel? Without the star? What’s the point?
posted on 6/7/20
comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
I think we all can see that superb is a sexist
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Not at all. I'm all for good original female characters, always have been and I'm particularly looking forward to Wonder Woman 1984.
But if you're happy with the excellent Chris Hemsworth potentially given the boot permanently as Thor so that Natalie Portman can be Thor from phase 4 onwards then good for you
posted on 6/7/20
But you previously just said "Lady Thor will not replace Thor" with a lot of certainty. You've shifted your position over the space of a couple of comments.
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It's not a shift in position. I assumed you know that I don't work for Marvel and therefore its all speculation and rumour. Didn't know I need to add that caveat to every comment. A bit of semantics there.
What's your basis for saying she might permanently replace Thor? I haven't seen any suggestion it's permanent. In the comic books she loses her powers eventually and it's obvious that Thor will be back at some point. Its just another story line.
posted on 6/7/20
The fact is that neither of us know if Natalie Portman is going to be a permanent replacement but I've heard that Chris Hemsworth is very unhappy about things which lends a lot of credibility to the idea that it is a permanent change:
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Does it?
They've retained him and he still has a contract and that's more telling for the medium to long term.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
I think we all can see that superb is a sexist
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Not at all. I'm all for good original female characters, always have been and I'm particularly looking forward to Wonder Woman 1984.
But if you're happy with the excellent Chris Hemsworth potentially given the boot permanently as Thor so that Natalie Portman can be Thor from phase 4 onwards then good for you
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I would say he’s had a good run tbf. 4 standalone and 4 joint films is quite a lot.
Anyway I assume he’s signed a new contract for Thor 4 as his last contract run out with endgame.
He’ll probably be around for a while yet
posted on 6/7/20
I don't want to get into semantics either but you went from saying "Lady Thor will not replace Thor" to "I don't know if Lady Thor will replace Thor permanently". So hopefully you can understand my confusion on your position.
My basis for saying that it might be permanent are the reports on Hemsworth's alleged unhappiness on the issue and that Disney seem very keen to make the Avengers much more diverse with Brie Larson's Captain Marvel set to become the leader of the Avengers.
Obviously I hope the rumours are wrong as Hemsworth has been a brilliant Thor and I want to see much more of him in the MCU.
posted on 6/7/20
“ My basis for saying that it might be permanent are the reports on Hemsworth's alleged unhappiness on the issue and that Disney seem very keen to make the Avengers much more diverse with Brie Larson's Captain Marvel set to become the leader of the Avengers.”
So Thor is a sexist like you then
posted on 6/7/20
How am I a sexist ? Because I like and have always liked original female characters and want to see more of them ? Nice try mate
posted on 6/7/20
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
How am I a sexist ? Because I like and have always liked original female characters and want to see more of them ? Nice try mate
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Yep like when a racist says he can’t be as he has a black friend.
I see through you.
posted on 6/7/20
They've retained him and he still has a contract and that's more telling for the medium to long term.
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Anyway I assume he’s signed a new contract for Thor 4 as his last contract run out with endgame.
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Which one is it then ?? One of you saying that Hemsworth's contract ran out already since Endgame and the other saying that he still has a long contract.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 5 minutes ago
“ My basis for saying that it might be permanent are the reports on Hemsworth's alleged unhappiness on the issue and that Disney seem very keen to make the Avengers much more diverse with Brie Larson's Captain Marvel set to become the leader of the Avengers.”
So Thor is a sexist like you then
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posted on 6/7/20
comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
How am I a sexist ? Because I like and have always liked original female characters and want to see more of them ? Nice try mate
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Yep like when a racist says he can’t be as he has a black friend.
I see through you.
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Give it a rest mate. I haven't said anything sexist. You're just a Marvel fan boy who can't have anything remotely negative said about the MCU. I see through you
posted on 6/7/20
With the introduction of the Eternals, Captain Marvel and potentially Fantastic Four, it’s appears that Marvel are going down a road where the power level of the villains are going to be huge.
Captain Marvel, as the strongest character, being the leader makes sense. Though you’d suspect that Reed Richards and maybe Dr. Strange will have important roles in that phase 5.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 37 seconds ago
I don't want to get into semantics either but you went from saying "Lady Thor will not replace Thor" to "I don't know if Lady Thor will replace Thor permanently". So hopefully you can understand my confusion on your position.
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Ok, I should have said that it was my opinion and not fact. I thought that's obvious tbh. I don't see how it's confusing.
Are you saying that your understanding is that I was categorically saying it wouldn't happen? If you assumed the same for every comment in this thread then you'd be pulling everyone up. You're interpreting that particular comment to a different standard than usual for this thread IMO but I agree with the last part. Perhaps Thor has been my favourite and I'd hate to see anything change permanently. A short change might be good though.
posted on 6/7/20
Are you saying that your understanding is that I was categorically saying it wouldn't happen?
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Yes it was. After you said:
"No need to pre judge IMO. Lady Thor will not replace Thor. In fact it could turn out decent. Thor movies have a lot of good humour and the manner in which she becomes Lady Thor in the comic books is a bit humorous".
Again not wanting to get into semantics, but to answer your question.
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