Did you find any sweetcorn in his jobbies?
Clearly the plan is to subsidise current annual losses from king and other directors until they get in cl (???!!!) probs why the two directors folded
Sometimes you’ve got to speculate to accumulate
I’m surprised someone who shows such an interest in all things business when it comes to rangers the op doesn’t know this
you do know that clubs are allowed to run at a deficit? (there are limits) clubs DO NOT need turn a profit according to FFP rules.
You are aware that the FFP rules state you run at a loss and money can also be invested to make up parts of this. I also think they base all values wihtout taking into account tax. Teams can still run at quite a loss before FFP rules kick in
I hoped ffp rules were brought in to deal with the big clubs like Barca real PSG - that worked !!
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deliberate is an interesting word for it tbh when he admits they are not capable of running at a profit.
so its not on purpose, its just what is.
comment by Curly 💩 - I'm mumpsimus and I know it.' (except on a Wednesday, that is my obstreperous day ) - ITS JIST A BIG CLIQUE N'AT (U1103)
posted 3 seconds ago
They run a deficit deliberately
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Yes
And he has said this consistently since he took over
I am surprised you are just finding out
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the clubs would rather officially run at a slight loss. Well a profit really but after shareholder take their dividends and such that put it into a slight loss so to avoid paying any tax on profits earned. These "dividends" can be stored to be "invested" again at a further date.
They could run a profit by adjusting their belt accordingly tho
It’s speculating to accumulate . Obviously in an ideal world we would be running at profit so get what your saying
rangers biggest obstacle in the race for stability is Celtic, i know that sounds obvious but if it wasnt for the intense rivalry and the need to compete then they could afford to take their time to get it right.
some fans just won't accept that though.
They won’t tho they really should. Over the last 6 months in particular I’ve noticed a lot of fellow fans bring imo unrealistic about where we’ve been and the situation where Celtic are still miles ahead and financially untouchable
comment by JFK - Trebles for the Rebels (U8919)
posted 10 seconds ago
rangers biggest obstacle in the race for stability is Celtic, i know that sounds obvious but if it wasnt for the intense rivalry and the need to compete then they could afford to take their time to get it right.
some fans just won't accept that though.
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its what seperates Celtic & Rangers fans and the majority of clubs in the world.
Win is the ONLY option, 1st is a necessity, 2nd is LAST. Not many clubs run with this attitude and without it Rangers and Celtic wold just be another Hearts & Hibs.
i wonder if we were on 2 would they be more patient, i dont doubt the more hardcore nutters among u wouldnt accept it but i wouldnt say that comes down to football, but i think more fans would.
that said, after any old firm defeat people don't think straight so it would always come up.
The funniest part of his little Q&A is that he thinks giving the managers job to a completely untested under 18's coach is going top heavy on management.
"At the moment we’ve gone more top heavy on management because we have invested in the squad and struggled with stability in the manager’s office. We’ve gone the other way. We have now gone very, very strong in the management squad."
FFP rules were brought in to favour the biggest clubs and the biggest leagues.
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But win NOW isn't the only option.
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maybe not to you Dustin but there are plenty out there who do see it that way lets be honest.
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i agree, but the bulk of celtic and rangers fans aren't rational.
we got beat off hibs a few week ago and i was beeling, actually fumin about it
“we got beat off hibs a few week ago and i was beeling, actually fumin about it ”
Pleasing
not for me
tbh the next weekend made up for it but at the time i was raging with the whole "kin win it against them noo" view
was ok with it when it was done right enough
Aye it’s a hard life as a fitbaw fan, my heart bleeds for you !
Ffs
comment by Dustin Hoffman Touched my Tuppence (U19139)
posted 12 minutes ago
Win is the ONLY option, 1st is a necessity, 2nd is LAST. Not many clubs run with this attitude and without it Rangers and Celtic wold just be another Hearts & Hibs.
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But win NOW isn't the only option.
The far more sensible option is to have a strategy in place to say win in 2-3 years time. That is realistic and tempers the risk.
Its boom or bust if we bet on beating celtic in the short term.
Our targets should be;
Establish ourselves in second.
Lose the paralysing fear we have developed (in the past couple of games in particular) of celtic and start to nibble some points off them in the league.
Win a cup.
That would be phenomenal progress under Steven Gerrard in year 1 in my book
Then year 2 we look to kick on again....with a target say of still being in the mix for the title by the split.
And year 3 we look to mount a very strong title challenge to celtic.
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yes it is !! of course it is. I didnt say win right now I didnt say it was a realistic option but it is the the only acceptable option. Its why we have sacked our last 3 managers for being 2nd or 3rd .... not good enough. As I said its this ambition that separates us from Hibs and Hearts and the likes. If they get 2nd they celebrate it like its 1st ! We get 2nd we sack the manager.
I wouldnt have it any other way, its the very drive that will one day see our team win the league again and get back to the top whenver that may be.
I could never see a time in the next 20 years where any other club outside Rangers and Celtic win the league or be the top team.... do you?
Thats because of one thing, the fans. Celtic and Rangers do not have fans that allow them to be 2nd best.
comment by JFK - Trebles for the Rebels (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
we got beat off hibs a few week ago and i was beeling, actually fumin about it
flvcking liar, it was all "oh go on Lenny, second is yours for the taking, ahm glad yees bate us, stoap them h*n bastirts" FACT.
IE
about time we got some sympathy
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posted on 8/5/18
Did you find any sweetcorn in his jobbies?
posted on 8/5/18
Clearly the plan is to subsidise current annual losses from king and other directors until they get in cl (???!!!) probs why the two directors folded
posted on 8/5/18
Sometimes you’ve got to speculate to accumulate
I’m surprised someone who shows such an interest in all things business when it comes to rangers the op doesn’t know this
posted on 8/5/18
you do know that clubs are allowed to run at a deficit? (there are limits) clubs DO NOT need turn a profit according to FFP rules.
You are aware that the FFP rules state you run at a loss and money can also be invested to make up parts of this. I also think they base all values wihtout taking into account tax. Teams can still run at quite a loss before FFP rules kick in
posted on 8/5/18
I hoped ffp rules were brought in to deal with the big clubs like Barca real PSG - that worked !!
posted on 8/5/18
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posted on 8/5/18
deliberate is an interesting word for it tbh when he admits they are not capable of running at a profit.
so its not on purpose, its just what is.
posted on 8/5/18
comment by Curly 💩 - I'm mumpsimus and I know it.' (except on a Wednesday, that is my obstreperous day ) - ITS JIST A BIG CLIQUE N'AT (U1103)
posted 3 seconds ago
They run a deficit deliberately
++++
Yes
And he has said this consistently since he took over
I am surprised you are just finding out
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the clubs would rather officially run at a slight loss. Well a profit really but after shareholder take their dividends and such that put it into a slight loss so to avoid paying any tax on profits earned. These "dividends" can be stored to be "invested" again at a further date.
posted on 8/5/18
They could run a profit by adjusting their belt accordingly tho
It’s speculating to accumulate . Obviously in an ideal world we would be running at profit so get what your saying
posted on 8/5/18
rangers biggest obstacle in the race for stability is Celtic, i know that sounds obvious but if it wasnt for the intense rivalry and the need to compete then they could afford to take their time to get it right.
some fans just won't accept that though.
posted on 8/5/18
They won’t tho they really should. Over the last 6 months in particular I’ve noticed a lot of fellow fans bring imo unrealistic about where we’ve been and the situation where Celtic are still miles ahead and financially untouchable
posted on 8/5/18
comment by JFK - Trebles for the Rebels (U8919)
posted 10 seconds ago
rangers biggest obstacle in the race for stability is Celtic, i know that sounds obvious but if it wasnt for the intense rivalry and the need to compete then they could afford to take their time to get it right.
some fans just won't accept that though.
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its what seperates Celtic & Rangers fans and the majority of clubs in the world.
Win is the ONLY option, 1st is a necessity, 2nd is LAST. Not many clubs run with this attitude and without it Rangers and Celtic wold just be another Hearts & Hibs.
posted on 8/5/18
i wonder if we were on 2 would they be more patient, i dont doubt the more hardcore nutters among u wouldnt accept it but i wouldnt say that comes down to football, but i think more fans would.
that said, after any old firm defeat people don't think straight so it would always come up.
posted on 8/5/18
The funniest part of his little Q&A is that he thinks giving the managers job to a completely untested under 18's coach is going top heavy on management.
"At the moment we’ve gone more top heavy on management because we have invested in the squad and struggled with stability in the manager’s office. We’ve gone the other way. We have now gone very, very strong in the management squad."
posted on 8/5/18
FFP rules were brought in to favour the biggest clubs and the biggest leagues.
posted on 8/5/18
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posted on 8/5/18
But win NOW isn't the only option.
======
maybe not to you Dustin but there are plenty out there who do see it that way lets be honest.
posted on 8/5/18
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posted on 8/5/18
i agree, but the bulk of celtic and rangers fans aren't rational.
we got beat off hibs a few week ago and i was beeling, actually fumin about it
posted on 8/5/18
“we got beat off hibs a few week ago and i was beeling, actually fumin about it ”
Pleasing
posted on 8/5/18
not for me
tbh the next weekend made up for it but at the time i was raging with the whole "kin win it against them noo" view
was ok with it when it was done right enough
posted on 8/5/18
Aye it’s a hard life as a fitbaw fan, my heart bleeds for you !
Ffs
posted on 8/5/18
comment by Dustin Hoffman Touched my Tuppence (U19139)
posted 12 minutes ago
Win is the ONLY option, 1st is a necessity, 2nd is LAST. Not many clubs run with this attitude and without it Rangers and Celtic wold just be another Hearts & Hibs.
-----------------------------------
But win NOW isn't the only option.
The far more sensible option is to have a strategy in place to say win in 2-3 years time. That is realistic and tempers the risk.
Its boom or bust if we bet on beating celtic in the short term.
Our targets should be;
Establish ourselves in second.
Lose the paralysing fear we have developed (in the past couple of games in particular) of celtic and start to nibble some points off them in the league.
Win a cup.
That would be phenomenal progress under Steven Gerrard in year 1 in my book
Then year 2 we look to kick on again....with a target say of still being in the mix for the title by the split.
And year 3 we look to mount a very strong title challenge to celtic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes it is !! of course it is. I didnt say win right now I didnt say it was a realistic option but it is the the only acceptable option. Its why we have sacked our last 3 managers for being 2nd or 3rd .... not good enough. As I said its this ambition that separates us from Hibs and Hearts and the likes. If they get 2nd they celebrate it like its 1st ! We get 2nd we sack the manager.
I wouldnt have it any other way, its the very drive that will one day see our team win the league again and get back to the top whenver that may be.
I could never see a time in the next 20 years where any other club outside Rangers and Celtic win the league or be the top team.... do you?
Thats because of one thing, the fans. Celtic and Rangers do not have fans that allow them to be 2nd best.
posted on 8/5/18
comment by JFK - Trebles for the Rebels (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
we got beat off hibs a few week ago and i was beeling, actually fumin about it
flvcking liar, it was all "oh go on Lenny, second is yours for the taking, ahm glad yees bate us, stoap them h*n bastirts" FACT.
posted on 8/5/18
IE
about time we got some sympathy
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