Nice one Jenius.
Could you imagine Arteta ruthlessly kicking out his "buddies"?
I actually can't. He's even planning on making Cazorla his second in command (not that I have any issues with it).
Yep pretty much my feelings with it. Just don’t see much evidence to show he’d be able to get all the players behind him, especially if things started getting rough. Can easily see players turning their back on him after a few Poor results. If it had to be a former player, you’re better off as you say, going for someone who all the players would look up to and respect, who’s won loads, like vieira. But even with him I wouldn’t be confident due to his managerial experience
Arteta could work if the board gave him a load of money to bring in a new set of players, and turf out any of the ones who aren’t on the same page as him. But they won’t, they’ll expect him to do wonders with no experience and with a very average side
Spurs fan in peace (honestly)...
Do you believe there’s any truth that you’ve contacted Vieira and Henry about the job?
For a club that do all their transfer dealing in near-secrecy, I find it a bit odd that all of a sudden all of this information is being leaked all over the place. PR stunt?
I won’t be surprised if he turns out worse then Wenger
Makes no sense to appoint Arteta our board are stupid
Good article, but what worries me more is that Arteta will be a yes man for the board.
The board will be like "here's 50mil, go and improve the team" and arteta wont successfully argue that it's not enough. Or Arteta identies a player and the board are like "nah, too expensive" and Arteta isn't able to persuade them he is worth gambling on before another team swoops in and signs them.
Players didnt respect Wenger so whats new?
Give him time to prove himself the the players will get on board. How the hell so you knock someone down without giving them a chance?
I understand the negativity about Arteta, and trust me I want a more experienced coach instead of him.
But I'm hella excited to see what he can do. I expect him to fail, but there's a decent chance he could do well too.
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comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 17 minutes ago
I suppose one of the questions is, why would city/Pep be so willing to allow Arteta to go to a top six rival with the view to reinvigorating them and making them a threat again, if they rate him so highly? Would they sell Sane to Arsenal too? Either they are so arrogant about their status that they think they're untouchable whatever happens. or they don't regard Arteta as that important or think they'll really miss him - or think that he'll do a good enough job to bother them anyway. Arsenal shouldn't be reduced to sniffing for City's crumbs, they should be forging their own path.
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If the coach wants to leave to become manager there’s not much they can do really, short of offering him Pep’s job.
Some deluded people on here. Arsenal isn’t the job it used to be. Poor team (compared to the top 6) who finished 37 points behind city. No CL. No big transfer budget. Terrible defenders. Weak midfield. Poor mentality. You could pick anyone you like and you won’t be getting top4 next season with this squad.
Rooney rules comes to play that means they have no choice but to interview potential black managers even though it’s all PR since Arteta seems to have landed the job.
Regarding Arteta, time will tell, he could end up the first manager to be sacked by December or the first manager to win us CL and League double watch this space.
comment by AU14 (U21751)
posted 3 minutes ago
Rooney rules comes to play that means they have no choice but to interview potential black managers even though it’s all PR since Arteta seems to have landed the job.
Regarding Arteta, time will tell, he could end up the first manager to be sacked by December or the first manager to win us CL and League double watch this space.
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Rooney rule is absolute bullshiiiit. If I were a racist or discriminative chairman I’d just find a token BAME person and interview them as part of a tick box exercise knowing full well I’m not going to hire them whatever they said.
Not that it matters but I’m black by the way, I just feel that forcing people to be interviewed defeats the object.
WTF is this crap.
Any new manager has to earn respect. Arteta is no different. He was apparently well respected as a player and was a good player. Your attack on Arteta is misplaced.
But the board and Kronke have gone for a cheap option. Te real villian in this story is not Arteta, It is Stan Kronke.
"Any new manager has to earn respect. Arteta is no different. He was apparently well respected as a player and was a good player. Your attack on Arteta is misplaced."
I'm not attacking Arteta it's merely the truth. He was a decent player. Nothing special.
There is no way on earth he should be taking over a club like Arsenal. He is far too under-qualified for this.
comment by Dubbed* (U21815)
posted 8 hours, 33 minutes ago
"Any new manager has to earn respect. Arteta is no different. He was apparently well respected as a player and was a good player. Your attack on Arteta is misplaced."
I'm not attacking Arteta it's merely the truth. He was a decent player. Nothing special.
There is no way on earth he should be taking over a club like Arsenal. He is far too under-qualified for this.
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I'd rather employ a decent player who was not naturally blessed but got to a high level on the back of hard work and cleverness.
I'd take Mertesacker and Arteta in top roles over the likes of Henry. They know how to improve players.
If he's up to the job then he'll get respect quickly. The players didn't respect Wenger when he arrived and didn't take him seriously but did after a week working with him.
Why are people comparing Wenger to Arteta? Wenger actually had some credentials and a rep. He was an actually manager with a track record. Arteta on the other hand is a nobody.
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posted on 18/5/18
Good post.
posted on 18/5/18
Nice one Jenius.
Could you imagine Arteta ruthlessly kicking out his "buddies"?
I actually can't. He's even planning on making Cazorla his second in command (not that I have any issues with it).
posted on 18/5/18
Yep pretty much my feelings with it. Just don’t see much evidence to show he’d be able to get all the players behind him, especially if things started getting rough. Can easily see players turning their back on him after a few Poor results. If it had to be a former player, you’re better off as you say, going for someone who all the players would look up to and respect, who’s won loads, like vieira. But even with him I wouldn’t be confident due to his managerial experience
Arteta could work if the board gave him a load of money to bring in a new set of players, and turf out any of the ones who aren’t on the same page as him. But they won’t, they’ll expect him to do wonders with no experience and with a very average side
posted on 18/5/18
Spurs fan in peace (honestly)...
Do you believe there’s any truth that you’ve contacted Vieira and Henry about the job?
For a club that do all their transfer dealing in near-secrecy, I find it a bit odd that all of a sudden all of this information is being leaked all over the place. PR stunt?
posted on 18/5/18
I won’t be surprised if he turns out worse then Wenger
Makes no sense to appoint Arteta our board are stupid
posted on 18/5/18
Good article, but what worries me more is that Arteta will be a yes man for the board.
The board will be like "here's 50mil, go and improve the team" and arteta wont successfully argue that it's not enough. Or Arteta identies a player and the board are like "nah, too expensive" and Arteta isn't able to persuade them he is worth gambling on before another team swoops in and signs them.
posted on 18/5/18
Players didnt respect Wenger so whats new?
Give him time to prove himself the the players will get on board. How the hell so you knock someone down without giving them a chance?
posted on 18/5/18
I understand the negativity about Arteta, and trust me I want a more experienced coach instead of him.
But I'm hella excited to see what he can do. I expect him to fail, but there's a decent chance he could do well too.
posted on 18/5/18
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posted on 18/5/18
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 17 minutes ago
I suppose one of the questions is, why would city/Pep be so willing to allow Arteta to go to a top six rival with the view to reinvigorating them and making them a threat again, if they rate him so highly? Would they sell Sane to Arsenal too? Either they are so arrogant about their status that they think they're untouchable whatever happens. or they don't regard Arteta as that important or think they'll really miss him - or think that he'll do a good enough job to bother them anyway. Arsenal shouldn't be reduced to sniffing for City's crumbs, they should be forging their own path.
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If the coach wants to leave to become manager there’s not much they can do really, short of offering him Pep’s job.
posted on 18/5/18
Some deluded people on here. Arsenal isn’t the job it used to be. Poor team (compared to the top 6) who finished 37 points behind city. No CL. No big transfer budget. Terrible defenders. Weak midfield. Poor mentality. You could pick anyone you like and you won’t be getting top4 next season with this squad.
posted on 18/5/18
Rooney rules comes to play that means they have no choice but to interview potential black managers even though it’s all PR since Arteta seems to have landed the job.
Regarding Arteta, time will tell, he could end up the first manager to be sacked by December or the first manager to win us CL and League double watch this space.
posted on 18/5/18
comment by AU14 (U21751)
posted 3 minutes ago
Rooney rules comes to play that means they have no choice but to interview potential black managers even though it’s all PR since Arteta seems to have landed the job.
Regarding Arteta, time will tell, he could end up the first manager to be sacked by December or the first manager to win us CL and League double watch this space.
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Rooney rule is absolute bullshiiiit. If I were a racist or discriminative chairman I’d just find a token BAME person and interview them as part of a tick box exercise knowing full well I’m not going to hire them whatever they said.
Not that it matters but I’m black by the way, I just feel that forcing people to be interviewed defeats the object.
posted on 19/5/18
WTF is this crap.
Any new manager has to earn respect. Arteta is no different. He was apparently well respected as a player and was a good player. Your attack on Arteta is misplaced.
But the board and Kronke have gone for a cheap option. Te real villian in this story is not Arteta, It is Stan Kronke.
posted on 19/5/18
"Any new manager has to earn respect. Arteta is no different. He was apparently well respected as a player and was a good player. Your attack on Arteta is misplaced."
I'm not attacking Arteta it's merely the truth. He was a decent player. Nothing special.
There is no way on earth he should be taking over a club like Arsenal. He is far too under-qualified for this.
posted on 19/5/18
comment by Dubbed* (U21815)
posted 8 hours, 33 minutes ago
"Any new manager has to earn respect. Arteta is no different. He was apparently well respected as a player and was a good player. Your attack on Arteta is misplaced."
I'm not attacking Arteta it's merely the truth. He was a decent player. Nothing special.
There is no way on earth he should be taking over a club like Arsenal. He is far too under-qualified for this.
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I'd rather employ a decent player who was not naturally blessed but got to a high level on the back of hard work and cleverness.
I'd take Mertesacker and Arteta in top roles over the likes of Henry. They know how to improve players.
posted on 19/5/18
If he's up to the job then he'll get respect quickly. The players didn't respect Wenger when he arrived and didn't take him seriously but did after a week working with him.
posted on 19/5/18
Why are people comparing Wenger to Arteta? Wenger actually had some credentials and a rep. He was an actually manager with a track record. Arteta on the other hand is a nobody.
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