Just been having this conversation on another thread, I hope he does, but there is nothing to suggest that will be the case.
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Look lets be honest utd finished 2nd but it might have been 4th no difference.
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I like how this argument only applies when United finish 2nd. When Tottenham (2017) or Liverpool (2014) finish 2nd, only THEN it’s a big deal.
I just feel you had the squad to challenge
.................
We didn't.
Our squad and often first XI were often unbalanced.
That and Jose often doesn't know a good player from a bad one.
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
Look lets be honest utd finished 2nd but it might have been 4th no difference.
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I like how this argument only applies when United finish 2nd. When Tottenham (2017) or Liverpool (2014) finish 2nd, only THEN it’s a big deal.
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I dunno why I am about to bite to a clear WUM, so I have decided I will stop posting halfway through my se
Jose has a lot of work to do and needs to be doing far more but like I said in another tread, at his best (Chelsea, Inter and Real) Jose is a counter attacking manager. Of course he needs the right players for that to work and hopefully that is what he is trying to address this summer.
Fred a b2b along with quality at RW and fullback areas would greatly help that IMO.
If Jose can't get us playing like that then he's gonna have major issues and will likely fail.
We had the squad to push City a bit further but the manager held the players back.
He will not suddenly become Fergie of the 90s. We will play the dull turgid crap that was served up last season.
He will play Sanchez even though he has been dog poo and criticise Martial and Rashford and will eventually sell both and Pogba to another team.
We will then go back and sign them for 100 million each
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
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He won the treble in 2010 and the title in 2015 and he won two trophies in 2017
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 13 minutes ago
I just feel you had the squad to challenge
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We didn't.
Our squad and often first XI were often unbalanced.
That and Jose often doesn't know a good player from a bad one.
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Always love it when fans know more than a manager. Our fans used to say the same “why doesn’t mourinho play baba Rahman???”. Baba Rahman then did play and our fans realised why.
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
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He won the treble in 2010 and the title in 2015 and he won two trophies in 2017
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Someone told me, can't remember who, that beating poor teams means those cups done mean much.
Wahl or something his name was.
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
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He won the treble in 2010 and the title in 2015 and he won two trophies in 2017
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I am talking about the premier league here. Yes he did in 2015, and got sacked the following year.
Mourinho is the modern day Arsene Wenger. He will not change but may still win trophies.
The game has moved on. Utd and Mourinho fans are currently experiencing that same crossroad that we Arsenal fans had, where some believe that the game will move on and other managers and teams will overtake him, while others believe his tried and trusted management style will bring major success like the old days rather than sporadic cup wins like Wenger's last few years.
Only time will tell, but it told for Wenger.
Tbh I think the local cups can be won by United but the league or CL, just too many good teams IMO. United's style won't allow them to pick up enough points IMO or beat any top top team over two legs. Too many draws is what will do them in IMO.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
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He won the treble in 2010 and the title in 2015 and he won two trophies in 2017
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Someone told me, can't remember who, that beating poor teams means those cups done mean much.
Wahl or something his name was.
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What poor teams did he beat to win the CL in 2010?
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
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He won the treble in 2010 and the title in 2015 and he won two trophies in 2017
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I am talking about the premier league here. Yes he did in 2015, and got sacked the following year.
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I don’t think opposition fans understand why Mourinho was fired.
Of course Mourinho won't change his whole footballing philosophy. I'd prefer a more positive manager myself. But (in contrast to the fully engaged detractors) I recognise there's quite a gulf between the football played by a Mourinho team that is flying and a Mourinho team that is stuttering. If it's packed with great players and if they all know their jobs and are committed to the ethos, then the team will score plenty of goals. They won't win the hearts of a generation of neutrals but they will play with a bit of a swagger and occasionally attack with panache, and they won't be less entertaining than e.g. the Fergie title winning teams of 2009, 2011 and 2013. And I do think that would be a lot easier on the eye than the football we've seen under Moyes, LVG and the first two seasons of Mourinho. No, it wouldn't be orgiastic sexball. But the committed detractors, whose positions are entrenched so deeply and for so long that they'd have no scope to modify their views, would seem a little daft.
It isnt a WUM really lads, im just lookin at were the challenge will come from, i honeslty think thebother are in transition were liverpool sn utd should be pushin them furher
Always love it when fans know more than a manager.
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Always love it when fans butt kiss a manager because they don't have an original thought of their own.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 12 minutes ago
Always love it when fans know more than a manager.
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Always love it when fans butt kiss a manager because they don't have an original thought of their own.
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I’ve seen it many times when fans wonder why the manager doesn’t play certain players and then those certain players are given a chance, and the fans then instantly understand why those players don’t play.
I’ve seen it many times when fans wonder why the manager doesn’t play certain players and then those certain players are given a chance, and the fans then instantly understand why those players don’t play.
............
So have I.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
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They’d probably be pushing close to or just above 90 points I think.
Not that it’s relevant to my point. Anyone that thinks we have the squad to challenge this City team is a facking moron.
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
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They’d probably be pushing close to or just above 90 points I think.
Not that it’s relevant to my point. Anyone that thinks we have the squad to challenge this City team is a facking moron.
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I think Pep at Utd and Jose at City and Pep still would've won the title.
Anyone that thinks we have the squad to challenge this City team is a facking moron.
..............
Well, you are a facking moron, Dazza.
But I agree with you this time.
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posted on 5/6/18
Just been having this conversation on another thread, I hope he does, but there is nothing to suggest that will be the case.
posted on 5/6/18
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posted on 5/6/18
Look lets be honest utd finished 2nd but it might have been 4th no difference.
—————-
I like how this argument only applies when United finish 2nd. When Tottenham (2017) or Liverpool (2014) finish 2nd, only THEN it’s a big deal.
posted on 5/6/18
I just feel you had the squad to challenge
.................
We didn't.
Our squad and often first XI were often unbalanced.
That and Jose often doesn't know a good player from a bad one.
posted on 5/6/18
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
Look lets be honest utd finished 2nd but it might have been 4th no difference.
—————-
I like how this argument only applies when United finish 2nd. When Tottenham (2017) or Liverpool (2014) finish 2nd, only THEN it’s a big deal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno why I am about to bite to a clear WUM, so I have decided I will stop posting halfway through my se
posted on 5/6/18
Jose has a lot of work to do and needs to be doing far more but like I said in another tread, at his best (Chelsea, Inter and Real) Jose is a counter attacking manager. Of course he needs the right players for that to work and hopefully that is what he is trying to address this summer.
Fred a b2b along with quality at RW and fullback areas would greatly help that IMO.
If Jose can't get us playing like that then he's gonna have major issues and will likely fail.
posted on 5/6/18
We had the squad to push City a bit further but the manager held the players back.
He will not suddenly become Fergie of the 90s. We will play the dull turgid crap that was served up last season.
He will play Sanchez even though he has been dog poo and criticise Martial and Rashford and will eventually sell both and Pogba to another team.
We will then go back and sign them for 100 million each
posted on 5/6/18
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
posted on 5/6/18
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
posted on 5/6/18
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
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He won the treble in 2010 and the title in 2015 and he won two trophies in 2017
posted on 5/6/18
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 13 minutes ago
I just feel you had the squad to challenge
.................
We didn't.
Our squad and often first XI were often unbalanced.
That and Jose often doesn't know a good player from a bad one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Always love it when fans know more than a manager. Our fans used to say the same “why doesn’t mourinho play baba Rahman???”. Baba Rahman then did play and our fans realised why.
posted on 5/6/18
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He won the treble in 2010 and the title in 2015 and he won two trophies in 2017
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Someone told me, can't remember who, that beating poor teams means those cups done mean much.
Wahl or something his name was.
posted on 5/6/18
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He won the treble in 2010 and the title in 2015 and he won two trophies in 2017
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am talking about the premier league here. Yes he did in 2015, and got sacked the following year.
posted on 5/6/18
Mourinho is the modern day Arsene Wenger. He will not change but may still win trophies.
The game has moved on. Utd and Mourinho fans are currently experiencing that same crossroad that we Arsenal fans had, where some believe that the game will move on and other managers and teams will overtake him, while others believe his tried and trusted management style will bring major success like the old days rather than sporadic cup wins like Wenger's last few years.
Only time will tell, but it told for Wenger.
posted on 5/6/18
Tbh I think the local cups can be won by United but the league or CL, just too many good teams IMO. United's style won't allow them to pick up enough points IMO or beat any top top team over two legs. Too many draws is what will do them in IMO.
posted on 5/6/18
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He won the treble in 2010 and the title in 2015 and he won two trophies in 2017
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Someone told me, can't remember who, that beating poor teams means those cups done mean much.
Wahl or something his name was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What poor teams did he beat to win the CL in 2010?
posted on 5/6/18
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He won the treble in 2010 and the title in 2015 and he won two trophies in 2017
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am talking about the premier league here. Yes he did in 2015, and got sacked the following year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think opposition fans understand why Mourinho was fired.
posted on 5/6/18
Of course Mourinho won't change his whole footballing philosophy. I'd prefer a more positive manager myself. But (in contrast to the fully engaged detractors) I recognise there's quite a gulf between the football played by a Mourinho team that is flying and a Mourinho team that is stuttering. If it's packed with great players and if they all know their jobs and are committed to the ethos, then the team will score plenty of goals. They won't win the hearts of a generation of neutrals but they will play with a bit of a swagger and occasionally attack with panache, and they won't be less entertaining than e.g. the Fergie title winning teams of 2009, 2011 and 2013. And I do think that would be a lot easier on the eye than the football we've seen under Moyes, LVG and the first two seasons of Mourinho. No, it wouldn't be orgiastic sexball. But the committed detractors, whose positions are entrenched so deeply and for so long that they'd have no scope to modify their views, would seem a little daft.
posted on 5/6/18
It isnt a WUM really lads, im just lookin at were the challenge will come from, i honeslty think thebother are in transition were liverpool sn utd should be pushin them furher
posted on 5/6/18
Always love it when fans know more than a manager.
......................
Always love it when fans butt kiss a manager because they don't have an original thought of their own.
posted on 5/6/18
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 12 minutes ago
Always love it when fans know more than a manager.
......................
Always love it when fans butt kiss a manager because they don't have an original thought of their own.
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I’ve seen it many times when fans wonder why the manager doesn’t play certain players and then those certain players are given a chance, and the fans then instantly understand why those players don’t play.
posted on 5/6/18
I’ve seen it many times when fans wonder why the manager doesn’t play certain players and then those certain players are given a chance, and the fans then instantly understand why those players don’t play.
............
So have I.
posted on 5/6/18
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
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They’d probably be pushing close to or just above 90 points I think.
Not that it’s relevant to my point. Anyone that thinks we have the squad to challenge this City team is a facking moron.
posted on 5/6/18
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
We didn’t have the squad to challenge. It hurts my brain when I read this. City got 100 facking points ffs. We don’t have the quality to get close to that.
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If Jose was the coach of City, with the same players, I will bet my flat they won't come close to 100 points. Managers evolve, formations evolve, Mourinho is still stuck in 2004.
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They’d probably be pushing close to or just above 90 points I think.
Not that it’s relevant to my point. Anyone that thinks we have the squad to challenge this City team is a facking moron.
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I think Pep at Utd and Jose at City and Pep still would've won the title.
posted on 5/6/18
Anyone that thinks we have the squad to challenge this City team is a facking moron.
..............
Well, you are a facking moron, Dazza.
But I agree with you this time.
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