comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 6 hours, 29 minutes ago
If we single out Israel, and do not call out Putin, Iran, China, S Africa, Saudi arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Or in cricket, India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, I have the right to ssk, Why Always Israel.
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Strawman.
All those nations have been condemned for their actions by posters. Maybe not all the same but I have and others you are arguing here have.
Nice try. But this is really pathetic attempt.
Why are we allowed to condemn those nations but not the actions of Israel? Whenever I see condemnation of those nations, I don't see you leap to their defence.
Have you leapt to the defence of, for example, Iran having a right to peaceful nuclear energy?
Why should we be able to condemn the others but not Israel? Because it is always Israel but the opposite of what you mean. We are not meant to condemn, but if we do, we're called antisemitic by Israel and its supporters.
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Criticise Israel only all day everyday.......until your last breath!
Fill your boots.
I will have my opinions and express them.
If you want threads with only one view, good luck.
Tara
As I have stated, have a go at Israel, the IDF, Israelis etc, but to mix sport and po!itics, balance is essential!
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Really?
Israel manages to that pretty well. They stopped the Palestinian football team from competing effectively by not giving the teams players permits to travel to represent Palestine.
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 40 minutes ago
TBAB maybe you should focus on doing one task at a time. Maybe you're better at colouring. And good job finishing your homework. I'm sure your teachers would be happy with that.
One person said that ("Fck Israel". And you know what, he's right. I'd say that about any regime that kills and forces people into a brutal occupation or any other crime against people.
Your own posts in this thread have been observed. The logic you used was how I put it. Don't like it, then instead of spewing word vomit(you're worse than Hafi), make a coherent point on the topic at hand instead of deflecting. Your points don't come across as an adult making a "grown up" observation.
You asked in your post why people are having a go at Israel and then spouting on about other nations crimes. Those points have been countered. And pointing to the crimes of other nations doesn't negate the crimes of Israel.
Argentina did the right thing. People do not always do it. Countries rarely do it. Such as a teaming walking off in the face of racist chanting. Even Southgate mentioned that in an ideal scenario the players should walk off if they face racist chants from the stands. But they won't do that because of the repercussions from the action. Now, if a team were to do that, people who are against racism would say they did the right thing a praise their actions.
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Ok, let us say Argentina did the right thing with regards to Israel!
Should they play in Russia or Qatar or S Africa?
Should Messi and co play Iran,,Saudi Arabia,,N korea, China, Iraq, Egypt etc.
Ireland just played Pakistan in test cricket ,and we play India and Afghanistan....Should England or Ireland play them?
Boycott them all.....or just Israel?
If you want threads with only one view, good luck.
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What a moron. This thread is to debate the merits of Argentina cancelling their match with Israel.
TBAB says you shouldn't criticise Israel and starts whataboutery for other nations. Other nations that actually have had sanctions and boycotts against them.
Israel hasn't, despite not complying with UN resolutions.
The boycott is merited.
If people were calling out Israel and even One other nation, perhaps then this thread could embrace debate that goes beyond partisan bile, based on dislike for one nation and group of people.
Now, I just queried the loveliness of hamas at the outset, but even this is not allowed, and I could have gone on to say I do not agree with all hardline Israel actions, but questioning Hamas human rights and ethos is islamophobia, and leads to my support for killing Palestinian babies!
Such is the openness for adult debate here.
If people were calling out Israel and even One other nation, perhaps then this thread could embrace debate that goes beyond partisan bile
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There's no partisan bile, the thread is about Argentina cancelling their match with Israel and debating that action.
There is a huge concensus that there's no problem with it as the reasons for it are not born of anti semitism.
https://goo.gl/images/G8qH1v
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 10 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by CakeOrDeath (U20439)
posted 11 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 19 minutes ago
TBAB "whatsbout whatabout whatabout"
This OP is about Argentina boycotting a game with Israel. Do yourself a favour and create those other topics as articles that you wish to discuss instead of trying to derail this topic with your complete mess of posts.
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Listen lad.......go fook yourself!Your posting about my opinion means nothing, as I know what You are...a hater!
You target Israel because you hate them!
There are scores of worse offenders than Israel, some holding the world cup, and some competing.
If you do not like the truth, do not read my posts.
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What a mess of a poster you are, unable to discuss the topic at hand and go on your "whatabout whatabout" ramble.
Israel referring to itself as "Jewish state" doesn't make it so.
More accurate would be "Zionist state"
So your riposte of "go fook yourself" as intelligent as it is, would be better served as self criticism for yourself.
Let me know which other nation states refuse to comply with UN resolutions without sanctions.
If any state deserves boycotting, divestment and sanctions, its Israel.
Well done the Argentinian team for facing up to it.
TBAB point me to the other articles you've created so I can post on them. Ta
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Filterd....bye👍
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Wow. That's truely pathetic... not surprising, however.
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And you are?????
Kindly remove your nose from my business, as red has been posting snide, personal, and at best obtuse replies for a year now, and I do not care to read his words anymore........none of your concern.
When I have got into debate with the likes of red, I am accused of ruining threads, so kindly allow me to do as I wish, as it really is my personal decision.
I have debated, argued and wasted too much time with political monsters😵here, so if you wish, you debate with red👍
Bye!
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So cake guy.......You are not going to elaborate, debate or take the baton from red to provide some sight into sporting boycotts,,Israel, and the like???????
You did imply I was waking away from the show, or censoring reds wisdom on the subject!I
Am here for you ,if you are up for a chat, rather than banal put downs, then jogging on😜
Just sayin
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 9 minutes ago
If we single out Israel, and do not call out Putin, Iran, China, S Africa, Saudi arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Or in cricket, India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, I have the right to ssk, Why Always Israel.
---------
Strawman.
All those nations have been condemned for their actions by posters. Maybe not all the same but I have and others you are arguing here have.
Nice try. But this is really pathetic attempt.
Why are we allowed to condemn those nations but not the actions of Israel? Whenever I see condemnation of those nations, I don't see you leap to their defence.
Have you leapt to the defence of, for example, Iran having a right to peaceful nuclear energy?
Why should we be able to condemn the others but not Israel? Because it is always Israel but the opposite of what you mean. We are not meant to condemn, but if we do, we're called antisemitic by Israel and its supporters.
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Have I used the term antisemitic here, in order to quash any legitimate criticism of Israel ???????
Has anyone?
It is now getting to the stage where critics of Israel start talking about antisemitism before anyone else!
Odd😳
TBAB was the first one to make allegations of anti-semitism..
"Or just drive Israeli jews into the sea....the preferred option of Israel's neighbours."
He's really not smart at all.. incapable of debate or context when it comes to Israel.
Never refers to them as Zionist though.
TBAB, you're all over the place.
You've replied to the same comment several times.
You posted your views and you can't seem to even
remember what you said.
You're free to post your opinion and derail the thread. I'm, like others here, are also free to call out your BS.
And it seems like you missed my point. They did the right thing. Whether they do it at other point doesn't detract them from doing the right thing here. Should they? Yes. Will they? That's another thing entirely. Should football players walk off the pitch when the crowd chat racist abuse? Yes. Will they? I doubt it. People don't back doing the right thing.
You just made another strawman regarding your point about calling out Hamas. No one said or implied that. You are good at using strawman method.
And Red has covered the allegations about antisemitism. Odd indeed.
And Red has covered the allegations about antisemitism. Odd indeed
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He has me filtered from earlier on this thread, so possible didn't see it.. you can copy and paste it for him though.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 9 minutes ago
If we single out Israel, and do not call out Putin, Iran, China, S Africa, Saudi arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Or in cricket, India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, I have the right to ssk, Why Always Israel.
---------
Strawman.
All those nations have been condemned for their actions by posters. Maybe not all the same but I have and others you are arguing here have.
Nice try. But this is really pathetic attempt.
Why are we allowed to condemn those nations but not the actions of Israel? Whenever I see condemnation of those nations, I don't see you leap to their defence.
Have you leapt to the defence of, for example, Iran having a right to peaceful nuclear energy?
Why should we be able to condemn the others but not Israel? Because it is always Israel but the opposite of what you mean. We are not meant to condemn, but if we do, we're called antisemitic by Israel and its supporters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have I used the term antisemitic here, in order to quash any legitimate criticism of Israel ???????
Has anyone?
It is now getting to the stage where critics of Israel start talking about antisemitism before anyone else!
Odd😳
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
TBAB was the first one to make allegations of anti-semitism..
"Or just drive Israeli jews into the sea....the preferred option of Israel's neighbours."
He's really not smart at all.. incapable of debate or context when it comes to Israel.
Never refers to them as Zionist though.
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 19 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 9 minutes ago
If we single out Israel, and do not call out Putin, Iran, China, S Africa, Saudi arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Or in cricket, India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, I have the right to ssk, Why Always Israel.
---------
Strawman.
All those nations have been condemned for their actions by posters. Maybe not all the same but I have and others you are arguing here have.
Nice try. But this is really pathetic attempt.
Why are we allowed to condemn those nations but not the actions of Israel? Whenever I see condemnation of those nations, I don't see you leap to their defence.
Have you leapt to the defence of, for example, Iran having a right to peaceful nuclear energy?
Why should we be able to condemn the others but not Israel? Because it is always Israel but the opposite of what you mean. We are not meant to condemn, but if we do, we're called antisemitic by Israel and its supporters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have I used the term antisemitic here, in order to quash any legitimate criticism of Israel ???????
Has anyone?
It is now getting to the stage where critics of Israel start talking about antisemitism before anyone else!
Odd😳
Reply | Add Comment | Complain | Share
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
TBAB was the first one to make allegations of anti-semitism..
"Or just drive Israeli jews into the sea....the preferred option of Israel's neighbours."
He's really not smart at all.. incapable of debate or context when it comes to Israel.
Never refers to them as Zionist though.
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Is that it?
Ok.
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 21 hours, 55 minutes ago
TBAB, you're all over the place.
You've replied to the same comment several times.
You posted your views and you can't seem to even
remember what you said.
You're free to post your opinion and derail the thread. I'm, like others here, are also free to call out your BS.
And it seems like you missed my point. They did the right thing. Whether they do it at other point doesn't detract them from doing the right thing here. Should they? Yes. Will they? That's another thing entirely. Should football players walk off the pitch when the crowd chat racist abuse? Yes. Will they? I doubt it. People don't back doing the right thing.
You just made another strawman regarding your point about calling out Hamas. No one said or implied that. You are good at using strawman method.
And Red has covered the allegations about antisemitism. Odd indeed.
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You post to tell me red has covered the antisemitism angle?
Really?
Then your choosen from of debate calls my views BS, and you use the tired, "all over the place" phrase to put my opinion n it's place.
Repeating or emphasising points is sometimes necessary, here and elsewhere.
Certain posters can misunderstand, distort or miss views they hate😏
Do you actually want to debate about Israel, Hamas, politics and sport, racism, antisemitism, hypocrisy et al?
If you want to talk, I pop on daily👍
How many sanctions of any kind, has Israel been hit by the international community for not complying with UN resolutions and trying to annexe Palestinian territory?
South Africa though it's apartheid policies had sporting sanctions and traded against it - so should Israel
Iran had financial and trade sanctions against it for not complying with international conventions - so should Israel
Russia has had financial sanctions against it for annexation of Crimea - so should Israel for the decades long attempt of annexing Palestinian territory.
But feck me just because it's Israel and people are afraid to be labelled as Anti-Semitic for any criticism of Israel.
Someone said why always Israel.. that's incorrect.. it's actually "Why Never Israel?"
Am sensing filtered love💓
I called BS on what is BS. You have built up several strawman arguments. Divert and distract from what's being said and then accuse people of something that isn't true.
Example:
You said: "Have I used the term antisemitic here, in order to quash any legitimate criticism of Israel ???????
Has anyone?
It is now getting to the stage where critics of Israel start talking about antisemitism before anyone else!
Odd"
Red replied to this point:
"TBAB was the first one to make allegations of anti-semitism..
"Or just drive Israeli jews into the sea....the preferred option of Israel's neighbours.""
That does cover it. That comment Red quoted was in reply to legitimate critisms of Israel.
Regarding the "Has anyone?" part of the question, TTliv87 said "When in doubt blame the Jews."
Yup both TBAB and TTLIV cried anti-semitism when legitimate criticisms of Israel were made.
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Argentina Boycotts Israel
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posted on 8/6/18
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 6 hours, 29 minutes ago
If we single out Israel, and do not call out Putin, Iran, China, S Africa, Saudi arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Or in cricket, India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, I have the right to ssk, Why Always Israel.
---------
Strawman.
All those nations have been condemned for their actions by posters. Maybe not all the same but I have and others you are arguing here have.
Nice try. But this is really pathetic attempt.
Why are we allowed to condemn those nations but not the actions of Israel? Whenever I see condemnation of those nations, I don't see you leap to their defence.
Have you leapt to the defence of, for example, Iran having a right to peaceful nuclear energy?
Why should we be able to condemn the others but not Israel? Because it is always Israel but the opposite of what you mean. We are not meant to condemn, but if we do, we're called antisemitic by Israel and its supporters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Criticise Israel only all day everyday.......until your last breath!
Fill your boots.
I will have my opinions and express them.
If you want threads with only one view, good luck.
Tara
posted on 8/6/18
As I have stated, have a go at Israel, the IDF, Israelis etc, but to mix sport and po!itics, balance is essential!
-----------
Really?
Israel manages to that pretty well. They stopped the Palestinian football team from competing effectively by not giving the teams players permits to travel to represent Palestine.
posted on 8/6/18
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 40 minutes ago
TBAB maybe you should focus on doing one task at a time. Maybe you're better at colouring. And good job finishing your homework. I'm sure your teachers would be happy with that.
One person said that ("Fck Israel". And you know what, he's right. I'd say that about any regime that kills and forces people into a brutal occupation or any other crime against people.
Your own posts in this thread have been observed. The logic you used was how I put it. Don't like it, then instead of spewing word vomit(you're worse than Hafi), make a coherent point on the topic at hand instead of deflecting. Your points don't come across as an adult making a "grown up" observation.
You asked in your post why people are having a go at Israel and then spouting on about other nations crimes. Those points have been countered. And pointing to the crimes of other nations doesn't negate the crimes of Israel.
Argentina did the right thing. People do not always do it. Countries rarely do it. Such as a teaming walking off in the face of racist chanting. Even Southgate mentioned that in an ideal scenario the players should walk off if they face racist chants from the stands. But they won't do that because of the repercussions from the action. Now, if a team were to do that, people who are against racism would say they did the right thing a praise their actions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok, let us say Argentina did the right thing with regards to Israel!
Should they play in Russia or Qatar or S Africa?
Should Messi and co play Iran,,Saudi Arabia,,N korea, China, Iraq, Egypt etc.
Ireland just played Pakistan in test cricket ,and we play India and Afghanistan....Should England or Ireland play them?
Boycott them all.....or just Israel?
posted on 8/6/18
If you want threads with only one view, good luck.
-----------
What a moron. This thread is to debate the merits of Argentina cancelling their match with Israel.
TBAB says you shouldn't criticise Israel and starts whataboutery for other nations. Other nations that actually have had sanctions and boycotts against them.
Israel hasn't, despite not complying with UN resolutions.
The boycott is merited.
posted on 8/6/18
If people were calling out Israel and even One other nation, perhaps then this thread could embrace debate that goes beyond partisan bile, based on dislike for one nation and group of people.
Now, I just queried the loveliness of hamas at the outset, but even this is not allowed, and I could have gone on to say I do not agree with all hardline Israel actions, but questioning Hamas human rights and ethos is islamophobia, and leads to my support for killing Palestinian babies!
Such is the openness for adult debate here.
posted on 8/6/18
If people were calling out Israel and even One other nation, perhaps then this thread could embrace debate that goes beyond partisan bile
-----------
There's no partisan bile, the thread is about Argentina cancelling their match with Israel and debating that action.
There is a huge concensus that there's no problem with it as the reasons for it are not born of anti semitism.
https://goo.gl/images/G8qH1v
posted on 8/6/18
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 10 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by CakeOrDeath (U20439)
posted 11 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 19 minutes ago
TBAB "whatsbout whatabout whatabout"
This OP is about Argentina boycotting a game with Israel. Do yourself a favour and create those other topics as articles that you wish to discuss instead of trying to derail this topic with your complete mess of posts.
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Listen lad.......go fook yourself!Your posting about my opinion means nothing, as I know what You are...a hater!
You target Israel because you hate them!
There are scores of worse offenders than Israel, some holding the world cup, and some competing.
If you do not like the truth, do not read my posts.
-----------
What a mess of a poster you are, unable to discuss the topic at hand and go on your "whatabout whatabout" ramble.
Israel referring to itself as "Jewish state" doesn't make it so.
More accurate would be "Zionist state"
So your riposte of "go fook yourself" as intelligent as it is, would be better served as self criticism for yourself.
Let me know which other nation states refuse to comply with UN resolutions without sanctions.
If any state deserves boycotting, divestment and sanctions, its Israel.
Well done the Argentinian team for facing up to it.
TBAB point me to the other articles you've created so I can post on them. Ta
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Filterd....bye👍
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Wow. That's truely pathetic... not surprising, however.
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And you are?????
Kindly remove your nose from my business, as red has been posting snide, personal, and at best obtuse replies for a year now, and I do not care to read his words anymore........none of your concern.
When I have got into debate with the likes of red, I am accused of ruining threads, so kindly allow me to do as I wish, as it really is my personal decision.
I have debated, argued and wasted too much time with political monsters😵here, so if you wish, you debate with red👍
Bye!
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So cake guy.......You are not going to elaborate, debate or take the baton from red to provide some sight into sporting boycotts,,Israel, and the like???????
You did imply I was waking away from the show, or censoring reds wisdom on the subject!I
Am here for you ,if you are up for a chat, rather than banal put downs, then jogging on😜
Just sayin
posted on 8/6/18
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 9 minutes ago
If we single out Israel, and do not call out Putin, Iran, China, S Africa, Saudi arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Or in cricket, India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, I have the right to ssk, Why Always Israel.
---------
Strawman.
All those nations have been condemned for their actions by posters. Maybe not all the same but I have and others you are arguing here have.
Nice try. But this is really pathetic attempt.
Why are we allowed to condemn those nations but not the actions of Israel? Whenever I see condemnation of those nations, I don't see you leap to their defence.
Have you leapt to the defence of, for example, Iran having a right to peaceful nuclear energy?
Why should we be able to condemn the others but not Israel? Because it is always Israel but the opposite of what you mean. We are not meant to condemn, but if we do, we're called antisemitic by Israel and its supporters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have I used the term antisemitic here, in order to quash any legitimate criticism of Israel ???????
Has anyone?
It is now getting to the stage where critics of Israel start talking about antisemitism before anyone else!
Odd😳
posted on 8/6/18
TBAB was the first one to make allegations of anti-semitism..
"Or just drive Israeli jews into the sea....the preferred option of Israel's neighbours."
He's really not smart at all.. incapable of debate or context when it comes to Israel.
Never refers to them as Zionist though.
posted on 8/6/18
TBAB, you're all over the place.
You've replied to the same comment several times.
You posted your views and you can't seem to even
remember what you said.
You're free to post your opinion and derail the thread. I'm, like others here, are also free to call out your BS.
And it seems like you missed my point. They did the right thing. Whether they do it at other point doesn't detract them from doing the right thing here. Should they? Yes. Will they? That's another thing entirely. Should football players walk off the pitch when the crowd chat racist abuse? Yes. Will they? I doubt it. People don't back doing the right thing.
You just made another strawman regarding your point about calling out Hamas. No one said or implied that. You are good at using strawman method.
And Red has covered the allegations about antisemitism. Odd indeed.
posted on 8/6/18
And Red has covered the allegations about antisemitism. Odd indeed
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He has me filtered from earlier on this thread, so possible didn't see it.. you can copy and paste it for him though.
posted on 8/6/18
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 9 minutes ago
If we single out Israel, and do not call out Putin, Iran, China, S Africa, Saudi arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Or in cricket, India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, I have the right to ssk, Why Always Israel.
---------
Strawman.
All those nations have been condemned for their actions by posters. Maybe not all the same but I have and others you are arguing here have.
Nice try. But this is really pathetic attempt.
Why are we allowed to condemn those nations but not the actions of Israel? Whenever I see condemnation of those nations, I don't see you leap to their defence.
Have you leapt to the defence of, for example, Iran having a right to peaceful nuclear energy?
Why should we be able to condemn the others but not Israel? Because it is always Israel but the opposite of what you mean. We are not meant to condemn, but if we do, we're called antisemitic by Israel and its supporters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have I used the term antisemitic here, in order to quash any legitimate criticism of Israel ???????
Has anyone?
It is now getting to the stage where critics of Israel start talking about antisemitism before anyone else!
Odd😳
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
TBAB was the first one to make allegations of anti-semitism..
"Or just drive Israeli jews into the sea....the preferred option of Israel's neighbours."
He's really not smart at all.. incapable of debate or context when it comes to Israel.
Never refers to them as Zionist though.
posted on 9/6/18
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 19 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 9 minutes ago
If we single out Israel, and do not call out Putin, Iran, China, S Africa, Saudi arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Or in cricket, India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, I have the right to ssk, Why Always Israel.
---------
Strawman.
All those nations have been condemned for their actions by posters. Maybe not all the same but I have and others you are arguing here have.
Nice try. But this is really pathetic attempt.
Why are we allowed to condemn those nations but not the actions of Israel? Whenever I see condemnation of those nations, I don't see you leap to their defence.
Have you leapt to the defence of, for example, Iran having a right to peaceful nuclear energy?
Why should we be able to condemn the others but not Israel? Because it is always Israel but the opposite of what you mean. We are not meant to condemn, but if we do, we're called antisemitic by Israel and its supporters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have I used the term antisemitic here, in order to quash any legitimate criticism of Israel ???????
Has anyone?
It is now getting to the stage where critics of Israel start talking about antisemitism before anyone else!
Odd😳
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
TBAB was the first one to make allegations of anti-semitism..
"Or just drive Israeli jews into the sea....the preferred option of Israel's neighbours."
He's really not smart at all.. incapable of debate or context when it comes to Israel.
Never refers to them as Zionist though.
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Is that it?
Ok.
posted on 9/6/18
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 21 hours, 55 minutes ago
TBAB, you're all over the place.
You've replied to the same comment several times.
You posted your views and you can't seem to even
remember what you said.
You're free to post your opinion and derail the thread. I'm, like others here, are also free to call out your BS.
And it seems like you missed my point. They did the right thing. Whether they do it at other point doesn't detract them from doing the right thing here. Should they? Yes. Will they? That's another thing entirely. Should football players walk off the pitch when the crowd chat racist abuse? Yes. Will they? I doubt it. People don't back doing the right thing.
You just made another strawman regarding your point about calling out Hamas. No one said or implied that. You are good at using strawman method.
And Red has covered the allegations about antisemitism. Odd indeed.
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You post to tell me red has covered the antisemitism angle?
Really?
Then your choosen from of debate calls my views BS, and you use the tired, "all over the place" phrase to put my opinion n it's place.
Repeating or emphasising points is sometimes necessary, here and elsewhere.
Certain posters can misunderstand, distort or miss views they hate😏
Do you actually want to debate about Israel, Hamas, politics and sport, racism, antisemitism, hypocrisy et al?
If you want to talk, I pop on daily👍
posted on 9/6/18
How many sanctions of any kind, has Israel been hit by the international community for not complying with UN resolutions and trying to annexe Palestinian territory?
South Africa though it's apartheid policies had sporting sanctions and traded against it - so should Israel
Iran had financial and trade sanctions against it for not complying with international conventions - so should Israel
Russia has had financial sanctions against it for annexation of Crimea - so should Israel for the decades long attempt of annexing Palestinian territory.
But feck me just because it's Israel and people are afraid to be labelled as Anti-Semitic for any criticism of Israel.
Someone said why always Israel.. that's incorrect.. it's actually "Why Never Israel?"
posted on 9/6/18
Am sensing filtered love💓
posted on 9/6/18
I called BS on what is BS. You have built up several strawman arguments. Divert and distract from what's being said and then accuse people of something that isn't true.
Example:
You said: "Have I used the term antisemitic here, in order to quash any legitimate criticism of Israel ???????
Has anyone?
It is now getting to the stage where critics of Israel start talking about antisemitism before anyone else!
Odd"
Red replied to this point:
"TBAB was the first one to make allegations of anti-semitism..
"Or just drive Israeli jews into the sea....the preferred option of Israel's neighbours.""
That does cover it. That comment Red quoted was in reply to legitimate critisms of Israel.
posted on 9/6/18
Regarding the "Has anyone?" part of the question, TTliv87 said "When in doubt blame the Jews."
posted on 10/6/18
Yup both TBAB and TTLIV cried anti-semitism when legitimate criticisms of Israel were made.
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