Lukaku has a free header and another free shot at goal which he scuffed. Matic also had a very opportunity to slide one in.
...........
Lingard should have buried one as well. We had plenty of chances.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 50 seconds ago
Mourinho had herrera at CB, and we created nothing clear cut except for the one spurs gifted us
It's absolutely Mourinho's fault
We still cant get the basics of football right, there was more fight last night but still a woeful performance overall
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Lukaku has a free header and another free shot at goal which he scuffed. Matic also had a very opportunity to slide one in.
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They were half chances at best
We didn't carve spurs open, they were comfortable.
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
.................
The recent champions of Nobb's lost causes.
Jose, Pogba, Sanchez and Lukaku.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
Was Bailly injured, or did Jose drop him for being gash against Brighton?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 38 seconds ago
Was Bailly injured, or did Jose drop him for being gash against Brighton?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
By the sounds of it dropped which is a ridiculous decision. No wonder our players confidrnce are just shot to pieces. One poor game ( by certain players) and you are out. He bailed Lindelof out a few times against Leicester and he would have done a damn site better than Herrera at RCB
I was right about yesterday and said that I thought that Jose might change his tactics and have a go at Spurs. First 30 mins we were good and pressed high very well. But if you don't take your chances when they come, combined with our now routine Keystone Cop defending routines, you are going to get hurt.. And we did. Spurs got the measure of us and then from 35 mins onwards played us off the park after that.
What down-tools Pogba was doing being on that pitch in the first place... and where Herrera was supposed to be playing, is still a mystery to me.
Fully expect the bus to be parked and loaded up on the Moor next weekend.
By the sounds of it dropped which is a ridiculous decision. No wonder our players confidrnce are just shot to pieces. One poor game ( by certain players) and you are out. He bailed Lindelof out a few times against Leicester and he would have done a damn site better than Herrera at RCB
.............
He seems to do it to all the CB's. One bad game and you are out for a few.
You need to have consistency in your defence not constant chopping and changing.
I personally think that blaming individuals is similar to blaming the referee.
Ultimately, if the team is set up properly and playing well, then these individual errors don't end up costing you games and titles.
The recent champions of Nobb's lost causes.
Jose, Pogba, Sanchez and Lukaku.
+++
Don't forget Fellaini on that list.
He seems to do it to all the CB's. One bad game and you are out for a few.
You need to have consistency in your defence not constant chopping and changing.
----------------------------------
Jose only has only himself to blame for our defensive woes so far. Lack of consistency, dropping players, saying in the media he isn't getting the signings he wants (another CB after having 5 already, 2 he bought) and our desperate approach to signing one on the last day of the window (ok the board is also to blame here).
Also heard on Sky that Jose was moaning about not having a left sided CB. He has only had what, 3 summers to sort that out.
Does nothing to help a players confidence. I disagree with G.Nev when he said that Jose should have been backed by the board in buying another CB. I thought the board were quite right in holding back after seeing that the £60m they have invested in Bailly and Lindelof has not solved our issues, yet.
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ball was there for Smalling to win. He actually touched the ball but still messed up.
I feel a bit sorry for Linderlof.
He quite clearly isn't really good enough to play at this level.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ball was there for Smalling to win. He actually touched the ball but still messed up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it he touched the ball, thats bad luck then surely? ball could have gone anywhere
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ball was there for Smalling to win. He actually touched the ball but still messed up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it he touched the ball, thats bad luck then surely? ball could have gone anywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch Lindelof on that goal... As soon as Smalling challenges he stops running back to cover... Then does his oops routine when the ball breaks
OP
He was let down by some shat-awful defending in the main
as well as some fack awful new players who are clearly not Utd material...
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ball was there for Smalling to win. He actually touched the ball but still messed up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it he touched the ball, thats bad luck then surely? ball could have gone anywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch Lindelof on that goal... As soon as Smalling challenges he stops running back to cover... Then does his oops routine when the ball breaks
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yeah your right, just saw that
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 27 minutes ago
He seems to do it to all the CB's. One bad game and you are out for a few.
You need to have consistency in your defence not constant chopping and changing.
----------------------------------
Jose only has only himself to blame for our defensive woes so far. Lack of consistency, dropping players, saying in the media he isn't getting the signings he wants (another CB after having 5 already, 2 he bought) and our desperate approach to signing one on the last day of the window (ok the board is also to blame here).
Also heard on Sky that Jose was moaning about not having a left sided CB. He has only had what, 3 summers to sort that out.
Does nothing to help a players confidence. I disagree with G.Nev when he said that Jose should have been backed by the board in buying another CB. I thought the board were quite right in holding back after seeing that the £60m they have invested in Bailly and Lindelof has not solved our issues, yet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Naive statement
Bailly was bought for the first team, he clearly stated Lindelof was for the future. Any watching Bailly play can see he needs a calming leader next to him.
Jose saw that and Ed didn’t sort it. All this nonsense of 60m wasted....his total defensive outlay is less than Liverpool spent on VVD.
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ball was there for Smalling to win. He actually touched the ball but still messed up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it he touched the ball, thats bad luck then surely? ball could have gone anywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch Lindelof on that goal... As soon as Smalling challenges he stops running back to cover... Then does his oops routine when the ball breaks
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yeah your right, just saw that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If he'd kept going he could have challenged... He's just not a premier league quality defender
If you look at the match stats and not the result it does paint a different picture and something encouraging for utd fans going forward. At 2 nil, lingard has a great chance to get in the game.
If we were outplayed then i would be worried.
Jones facks up for the first.
Smalling for the third.
Lindeloff nearly gives another goal away.
Naive statement
Bailly was bought for the first team, he clearly stated Lindelof was for the future. Any watching Bailly play can see he needs a calming leader next to him.
Jose saw that and Ed didn’t sort it.
--------------------------------------
This only confirms the shambles of our recruitment 'strategy' in our CBs, which is having an effect on performances.
I never watched Bailly at Villarreal, however, if we did scout him, then I imagine we would have noted these traits and that he needed a calming influence before we signed him.
I would have thought Jose would have signed a commanding and experienced CB from the start and then use Smalling/Jones next to them as second fiddle. Then bring in a young CB for the future (Bailly or Lindelof) as a back up option (or if they perform can stake a claim as 1st choice) who can play the odd game here and there to develop.
At the moment we are buying, identifying problems in the new players, and then wanting to buy again to solve it.
Should've bought Cahill from us....
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
Should've bought Cahill from us....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Normally I would laugh but Cahill would probably show up our current crop on current form.
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posted on 28/8/18
Lukaku has a free header and another free shot at goal which he scuffed. Matic also had a very opportunity to slide one in.
...........
Lingard should have buried one as well. We had plenty of chances.
posted on 28/8/18
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 50 seconds ago
Mourinho had herrera at CB, and we created nothing clear cut except for the one spurs gifted us
It's absolutely Mourinho's fault
We still cant get the basics of football right, there was more fight last night but still a woeful performance overall
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku has a free header and another free shot at goal which he scuffed. Matic also had a very opportunity to slide one in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They were half chances at best
We didn't carve spurs open, they were comfortable.
posted on 28/8/18
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
posted on 28/8/18
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
.................
The recent champions of Nobb's lost causes.
Jose, Pogba, Sanchez and Lukaku.
posted on 28/8/18
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
posted on 28/8/18
Was Bailly injured, or did Jose drop him for being gash against Brighton?
posted on 28/8/18
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 38 seconds ago
Was Bailly injured, or did Jose drop him for being gash against Brighton?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
By the sounds of it dropped which is a ridiculous decision. No wonder our players confidrnce are just shot to pieces. One poor game ( by certain players) and you are out. He bailed Lindelof out a few times against Leicester and he would have done a damn site better than Herrera at RCB
posted on 28/8/18
I was right about yesterday and said that I thought that Jose might change his tactics and have a go at Spurs. First 30 mins we were good and pressed high very well. But if you don't take your chances when they come, combined with our now routine Keystone Cop defending routines, you are going to get hurt.. And we did. Spurs got the measure of us and then from 35 mins onwards played us off the park after that.
What down-tools Pogba was doing being on that pitch in the first place... and where Herrera was supposed to be playing, is still a mystery to me.
Fully expect the bus to be parked and loaded up on the Moor next weekend.
posted on 28/8/18
By the sounds of it dropped which is a ridiculous decision. No wonder our players confidrnce are just shot to pieces. One poor game ( by certain players) and you are out. He bailed Lindelof out a few times against Leicester and he would have done a damn site better than Herrera at RCB
.............
He seems to do it to all the CB's. One bad game and you are out for a few.
You need to have consistency in your defence not constant chopping and changing.
posted on 28/8/18
I personally think that blaming individuals is similar to blaming the referee.
Ultimately, if the team is set up properly and playing well, then these individual errors don't end up costing you games and titles.
posted on 28/8/18
The recent champions of Nobb's lost causes.
Jose, Pogba, Sanchez and Lukaku.
+++
Don't forget Fellaini on that list.
posted on 28/8/18
He seems to do it to all the CB's. One bad game and you are out for a few.
You need to have consistency in your defence not constant chopping and changing.
----------------------------------
Jose only has only himself to blame for our defensive woes so far. Lack of consistency, dropping players, saying in the media he isn't getting the signings he wants (another CB after having 5 already, 2 he bought) and our desperate approach to signing one on the last day of the window (ok the board is also to blame here).
Also heard on Sky that Jose was moaning about not having a left sided CB. He has only had what, 3 summers to sort that out.
Does nothing to help a players confidence. I disagree with G.Nev when he said that Jose should have been backed by the board in buying another CB. I thought the board were quite right in holding back after seeing that the £60m they have invested in Bailly and Lindelof has not solved our issues, yet.
posted on 28/8/18
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ball was there for Smalling to win. He actually touched the ball but still messed up.
posted on 28/8/18
I feel a bit sorry for Linderlof.
He quite clearly isn't really good enough to play at this level.
posted on 28/8/18
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ball was there for Smalling to win. He actually touched the ball but still messed up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it he touched the ball, thats bad luck then surely? ball could have gone anywhere
posted on 28/8/18
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ball was there for Smalling to win. He actually touched the ball but still messed up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it he touched the ball, thats bad luck then surely? ball could have gone anywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch Lindelof on that goal... As soon as Smalling challenges he stops running back to cover... Then does his oops routine when the ball breaks
posted on 28/8/18
OP
He was let down by some shat-awful defending in the main
posted on 28/8/18
as well as some fack awful new players who are clearly not Utd material...
posted on 28/8/18
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ball was there for Smalling to win. He actually touched the ball but still messed up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it he touched the ball, thats bad luck then surely? ball could have gone anywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch Lindelof on that goal... As soon as Smalling challenges he stops running back to cover... Then does his oops routine when the ball breaks
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yeah your right, just saw that
posted on 28/8/18
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 27 minutes ago
He seems to do it to all the CB's. One bad game and you are out for a few.
You need to have consistency in your defence not constant chopping and changing.
----------------------------------
Jose only has only himself to blame for our defensive woes so far. Lack of consistency, dropping players, saying in the media he isn't getting the signings he wants (another CB after having 5 already, 2 he bought) and our desperate approach to signing one on the last day of the window (ok the board is also to blame here).
Also heard on Sky that Jose was moaning about not having a left sided CB. He has only had what, 3 summers to sort that out.
Does nothing to help a players confidence. I disagree with G.Nev when he said that Jose should have been backed by the board in buying another CB. I thought the board were quite right in holding back after seeing that the £60m they have invested in Bailly and Lindelof has not solved our issues, yet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Naive statement
Bailly was bought for the first team, he clearly stated Lindelof was for the future. Any watching Bailly play can see he needs a calming leader next to him.
Jose saw that and Ed didn’t sort it. All this nonsense of 60m wasted....his total defensive outlay is less than Liverpool spent on VVD.
posted on 28/8/18
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think I ever had it in me to this, but am started to feel sorry for the guy. I think Smalling is our best defender, but when you look at how Moura went past him yesterday, it was tragic.
As for Lukaku, my word he is bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Moura has pace to burn though, not many defenders are catching him in that position
Fred tried to win the ball in midfield but committed himself without winning it and we were carved open after that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ball was there for Smalling to win. He actually touched the ball but still messed up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it he touched the ball, thats bad luck then surely? ball could have gone anywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch Lindelof on that goal... As soon as Smalling challenges he stops running back to cover... Then does his oops routine when the ball breaks
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yeah your right, just saw that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If he'd kept going he could have challenged... He's just not a premier league quality defender
posted on 28/8/18
If you look at the match stats and not the result it does paint a different picture and something encouraging for utd fans going forward. At 2 nil, lingard has a great chance to get in the game.
If we were outplayed then i would be worried.
Jones facks up for the first.
Smalling for the third.
Lindeloff nearly gives another goal away.
posted on 28/8/18
Naive statement
Bailly was bought for the first team, he clearly stated Lindelof was for the future. Any watching Bailly play can see he needs a calming leader next to him.
Jose saw that and Ed didn’t sort it.
--------------------------------------
This only confirms the shambles of our recruitment 'strategy' in our CBs, which is having an effect on performances.
I never watched Bailly at Villarreal, however, if we did scout him, then I imagine we would have noted these traits and that he needed a calming influence before we signed him.
I would have thought Jose would have signed a commanding and experienced CB from the start and then use Smalling/Jones next to them as second fiddle. Then bring in a young CB for the future (Bailly or Lindelof) as a back up option (or if they perform can stake a claim as 1st choice) who can play the odd game here and there to develop.
At the moment we are buying, identifying problems in the new players, and then wanting to buy again to solve it.
posted on 28/8/18
Should've bought Cahill from us....
posted on 28/8/18
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
Should've bought Cahill from us....
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Normally I would laugh but Cahill would probably show up our current crop on current form.
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