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Has Poch Changed?

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posted on 19/9/18

We really now need to get back to basics. We need to play our strongest team for big games....

What's your strongest team?

posted on 19/9/18

Winning breeds confidence, losing breeds negativity.

Big game on Saturday.

posted on 19/9/18

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comment by Edbo (U17933)

posted on 19/9/18

Great article Gezza, and I agree that we need to go back to basics for a bit.

I want us to settle down and go back to 4-2-3-1 for a bit, stick with a team and make as few changes as possible.

posted on 19/9/18

Stop rotation and stick with a set team.

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posted on 19/9/18

Sizzle can suck deez nutz

comment by Edbo (U17933)

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posted on 19/9/18

The Problems at Spurs are a lot deeper than 3 straight defeats.... The stadium issues are well documented and the lack of strengthening/ recycling of a squad that obviously needed to be addressed was a total joke.

What nobody here has spoken about is the attitude of the 2 most important people at the club.... Poch & Kane. They were the only 2 significant guys to sign new deals over the summer and now both seem to be losing the plot..... While Kane denies that he's tired he, like Poch must be totally pi55ed off at the lack of ambition shown by the club. Kane talks endlessly about his hopes of winning silverwear while Poch spoke about being "Brave"..... Lets be honest we couldn't be further away from either if we tried ! We all know they can go on to bigger & better things and looking around at what Liverpool & chelsea have done this summer and what City have done over the past few years... they must be totally disgusted with Levy. There are no new signings, no new contracts as yet for the likes of Dele, Eriksen & Jan while guys who are clearly not good enough/ past it...... are still here. The issue with Toby & Rose is still a mess and must have an impact on the way the players view the management of the club. It all starts with those 2 and I think the trickle down to the rest of the squad is inevitable. We said all along that this summer was pivotal and we have blown it. I think we have seen the best of this team and unlike SAF when he made tough decisions to sell popular players and recycle, we have taken the typical Spurs cowards way out and simply hoped for the best, putting profit in front of performance

Nothing can be done until Jan & even then I don't expect anything of note. I have no expectations for this season. The team is playing with the attitude that on field success is secondary to what is happening re the Stadium & the clubs finances and that will only ever end badly.... I expect us to lose on Saturday, I don't expect us to make top 4 & I fear this will be the last season we have Poch and a number of our main players.

I have been saying it for months, Levy has built the improvement of the past few seasons like a house of cards and its all about to come falling down..... all we will have for it is a shiny new stadium..... Typical Spurs...... Style over Substance !

posted on 19/9/18

Regarding Poch; his demeanour seems to have changed this season. He has been a bit more controversial and a bit more aggressive.

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hes under pressure

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posted on 19/9/18

I'm starting to think Poch is having a sly dig at Levy.

Something along the lines of, 'I trusted you to get me the players I wanted, you didn't and this is what happens..say good bye to the cash cow of top 4 unless you sort out your facking priorities'.

Now that maybe a bit far fetched but you never know.

posted on 19/9/18

Tough situation for him to be in now, could have gone to Madrid and stayed loyal to a chairman that let him down in the window.

As much as people say he should stay professional, is being paid enough etc etc, if that happened in any profession where you had aspirations of making it to the top of your field it would be hard to keep your head in the job and not let you mind wonder to what could have been

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 19/9/18

comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
Tough situation for him to be in now, could have gone to Madrid and stayed loyal to a chairman that let him down in the window.

As much as people say he should stay professional, is being paid enough etc etc, if that happened in any profession where you had aspirations of making it to the top of your field it would be hard to keep your head in the job and not let you mind wonder to what could have been
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I think he'd still rather complete the project that is being done at Spurs than go to a club where success is practically a given. Surely that would be more rewarding for him? So not sure he regrets the decision to stick with us but must be annoyed with the lack of business shown in the summer.

posted on 19/9/18

comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 5 minutes ago
Regarding Poch; his demeanour seems to have changed this season. He has been a bit more controversial and a bit more aggressive.

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hes under pressure
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True, but the changes in him were evident at the start of the season even when we were winning. Poch was quite outspoken about not being bothered if players wanted to leave etc. etc. All admirable of course, but as I say, a bit uncharacteristic. He just seems different this season. There's been more steel about him. Hopefully this will be good for us going forward. But equally, hopefully it's not a manifestation of his frustrations towards the club and having seemingly been duped into signing a new contract.

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posted on 19/9/18

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
Tough situation for him to be in now, could have gone to Madrid and stayed loyal to a chairman that let him down in the window.

As much as people say he should stay professional, is being paid enough etc etc, if that happened in any profession where you had aspirations of making it to the top of your field it would be hard to keep your head in the job and not let you mind wonder to what could have been
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I think he'd still rather complete the project that is being done at Spurs than go to a club where success is practically a given. Surely that would be more rewarding for him? So not sure he regrets the decision to stick with us but must be annoyed with the lack of business shown in the summer.
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Not sure how u complete the project working for a guy like Levy..... Keeps moving the goal posts. I wouldn't blame him or Kane if they regret signing in the summer

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 19/9/18

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
Tough situation for him to be in now, could have gone to Madrid and stayed loyal to a chairman that let him down in the window.

As much as people say he should stay professional, is being paid enough etc etc, if that happened in any profession where you had aspirations of making it to the top of your field it would be hard to keep your head in the job and not let you mind wonder to what could have been
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I think he'd still rather complete the project that is being done at Spurs than go to a club where success is practically a given. Surely that would be more rewarding for him? So not sure he regrets the decision to stick with us but must be annoyed with the lack of business shown in the summer.
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Not sure how u complete the project working for a guy like Levy..... Keeps moving the goal posts. I wouldn't blame him or Kane if they regret signing in the summer
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I know but for Poch it would be like going a few rounds of Jenga when it's his go and the tower looks a bit wobbly and he decides "Fack it", and pushes it over without bothering to take a brick out.

He will still be maintaining that it's a good team even without the new signings, and that he could possibly win something and get top 4, but yeah it must be slowly looking like there's only so much he can do.

posted on 19/9/18

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
Tough situation for him to be in now, could have gone to Madrid and stayed loyal to a chairman that let him down in the window.

As much as people say he should stay professional, is being paid enough etc etc, if that happened in any profession where you had aspirations of making it to the top of your field it would be hard to keep your head in the job and not let you mind wonder to what could have been
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I think he'd still rather complete the project that is being done at Spurs than go to a club where success is practically a given. Surely that would be more rewarding for him? So not sure he regrets the decision to stick with us but must be annoyed with the lack of business shown in the summer.
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Not sure how u complete the project working for a guy like Levy..... Keeps moving the goal posts. I wouldn't blame him or Kane if they regret signing in the summer
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I know but for Poch it would be like going a few rounds of Jenga when it's his go and the tower looks a bit wobbly and he decides "Fack it", and pushes it over without bothering to take a brick out.

He will still be maintaining that it's a good team even without the new signings, and that he could possibly win something and get top 4, but yeah it must be slowly looking like there's only so much he can do.
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while we are losing games because of stupid set pieces, poor defending, and tactical errors, he should definitely not be thinking "there is only so much I can do"

posted on 19/9/18

Everyone seems a bit punchy,Levy who always had a big input on the players who were playing,has this now gone or at least diminished,his workload with a Stadium project that's is not on time and over budget,he's more than capable of undermining a manager,Re Jol,which leaves Pochinetto in promise land the input of players failed to materialise left with a visibly tired team who by his actions he's failing to motivate,Kane might want to play every game,but it short he shouldn't,its not in his or the teams long term interest.

comment by MKspur (U9129)

posted on 19/9/18

He’s been miserable since the start of the season.

Let down by the chairman and now having to deal with players who are struggling.

Central midfield is a huge problem. 3 players with huge injuries concerns and another in bad form.

Not saying he’s excused for everything though as his tactical ideas have been bad so far.

posted on 19/9/18

although his technical decisions have been spot on

posted on 19/9/18

comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 6 minutes ago
although his technical decisions have been spot on
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what is a technical decision?

posted on 19/9/18

what is a technical decision?
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What time is drink o clock.

posted on 19/9/18

comment by Brian Badonde...bell....Galv... (U10415)
posted 8 hours, 7 minutes ago
The moment we stop punching above our weight we're in a crisis.

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This.

Look at the last 3 full seasons and most of our rivals have underperformed at least once, whilst we’ve probably been close to as good as we can be. Would say we definitely hit our max in 2016/17. If and when they get their acts together and get consistently high levels of performances from their players and we’re in trouble.

Man City:
15/16: Massive flop
16/17: Transitional season
17/18: On top of their game

United:
15/16: Under par
16/17: Average
17/18: Expected more than they produced

Chelsea:
15/16:
16/17: Impeccable
17/18: Disappointing

Liverpool:
15/16: Could have done slightly better
16/17: About par
17/18: Roughly what we’d expected

Arsenal
15/16: Best of a poor bunch
16/17: Underperformed
17/18: Dreadful

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