comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 7 hours, 9 minutes ago
Without religion we wouldn't be where we are today to be honest.
Not that I'm religious or anything but maybe some people should start doing some research on English history.

I don't agree that these things should be 'force fed' to children. The best thing would be to make all kids aware of other cultures and religions so that the future generations can be more accepting of each other and not so divided like how they were in the past and still are today in many places.

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Why not have a lesson on cultures instead explore everything instead of just religion.

comment by Marco Roccati (U1734)
posted 9 hours, 4 minutes ago
I agree with people who say that religion is good, but then again I totally understand those that say religion is bad. Please like me.
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Don't worry. Jesus loves you.

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comment by Marco Roccati (U1734)
posted 11 hours, 55 minutes ago
Is god porrn a thing?
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Yeah the Greek Goods were at it all the time.

Deep down, everyone knows the 'Gods' are really ancient aliens.

comment by Cornelius Oofterom (U15867)
posted 7 minutes ago
Deep down, everyone knows the 'Gods' are really ancient aliens.
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That's a lot more likely than any of the major religions. At least aliens are very much possible

Should religion be taught in schools? I don’t know. Personally I don’t like the word ‘religion’. As someone who is a Christian - not any particular denomination, just one that reads, studies and tries to adhere to the Bible - practicing Christianity is meant to be a way of life not locked into ‘religion’. In the Bible, Jesus came to show people a righteous way to live which was often very different to the way that the religious leaders were demonstrating at the time through their religious customs.

Yes, there are rules and do’s and don’t’s to follow but they are meant to help and guide us as humans. A lot of religion tends to be based on traditions, most of which aren’t even Biblical.

Most of you probably won’t agree with this, but my opinion is that the Holy Bible should be taught in schools or at the very least be read. It doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be rammed down anyone’s throats but taught alongside the other subjects in the curriculum.

Ideally, parents should be reading the Bible with their children at home but it seems that increasingly more these days that the parents themselves have little or no knowledge/ interest in it. I personally blame media for this as it heavily portrays Christianity in a negative way which puts people off. Don’t believe me? Watch any mainstream news coverage and see what stories they (selectively) broadcast regarding the Church or so-called Christians. Yet, the Christian way of life when practiced in reverent obedience to God generally (we’re not perfect, we’re still fallen human beings) does not produce such negative headlines or behaviour.

I wonder if your son will grow up to renounce all the “hogwash” you’ve forced on him se85? 20 years from now the story of Adam and Eve will be more believable than a time when’s United were a good football team.

comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wonder if your son will grow up to renounce all the “hogwash” you’ve forced on him se85? 20 years from now the story of Adam and Eve will be more believable than a time when’s United were a good football team.
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In 20 years we’lol all be billionaires playthings, our stadiums funded and sponsored by corporations and the champions league will be geared o only accept the clubs that make the most cash..

Oh hang on....

20 years from now we’ll all be supporting the same team. After an unfortunate Donald Trump fart fires all US nukes to postcode M1 (accidental friendly fire was the official whitehouse press release) the only club escaping total obliteration in Manchester is Ashton United. The United fans are happy that at least their new club is called “United”, the City fans pleased they don’t have far to travel to the ground 😜 anyway due to nuclear fallout we’ve all got three eyes and six arms, finally reds and blues figure out their not so different after all - plus pints and a gravel pie are £2 a pop so who gives a feck anyway. We’re all cronenburgs aren’t we?

comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 4 minutes ago
20 years from now we’ll all be supporting the same team. After an unfortunate Donald Trump fart fires all US nukes to postcode M1 (accidental friendly fire was the official whitehouse press release) the only club escaping total obliteration in Manchester is Ashton United. The United fans are happy that at least their new club is called “United”, the City fans pleased they don’t have far to travel to the ground 😜 anyway due to nuclear fallout we’ve all got three eyes and six arms, finally reds and blues figure out their not so different after all - plus pints and a gravel pie are £2 a pop so who gives a feck anyway. We’re all cronenburgs aren’t we?
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When it comes to that orange muppet and what utter can be concocted, best not joke...

Best to prepare yourself for the worst. As long as the beers cheap and the gravels edible. Might not be too bad.

Chronenbergs 😂

Ah Morty it’s all your fault

comment by Hod idol the x factor - Mo's posh tin set! (U5117)
posted 1 day, 14 hours ago
It's not about believing fairies in the sky or literally the words of religious stories but the messages the stories represent and the debate to be had about how this can be reflected in modern life. In most case there is no one perfect or right answer.

The downside is when these messages are misrepresented and used as justification for evil agendas.
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So when you talk about not taking things literally, and almost immediately afterwards about people misrepresenting the messages, what you are basically saying is that the Bible means whatever you want it to mean as long as you're in Team Bible.


Try not to misrepresent these for me:

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent."

"This is what the Lord Almighty says ... 'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "

"Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us / He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."

"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel."

Or do you just tear out the pages you don't like?

It doesn't belong in state run schools

comment by 1 Father - 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 1 day, 8 hours ago

Should religion be taught in schools? I don’t know. Personally I don’t like the word ‘religion’ ... As someone who is a Christian -

Most of you probably won’t agree with this, but my opinion is that the Holy Bible should be taught in schools ... taught alongside the other subjects in the curriculum.

I personally blame media.
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Personally the word 'cult' is more than sufficient.

I don't see anything wrong with Religious Studies/Religious Education, as long as it's not a major part of the curriculum and as long as they're taught objectively. As others have said, it's important to grow up with an understanding of and appreciation for other cultures, and religion is a big part of that. You can't hide away from the fact that most people in the world adhere to one religion or another.

To me it's similar to reading a wide range of books in English lessons. You may not like all of them, or agree with the ideas they contain or the views they promote, but nor do you have to. Simply learning about them is worthwhile.

Perhaps all the major holy books should still have a place in the education system in schools. Maybe under 'Creative Writing' rather than R.E. though?

comment by Cornelius Oofterom (U15867)
posted 14 minutes ago
Perhaps all the major holy books should still have a place in the education system in schools. Maybe under 'Creative Writing' rather than R.E. though?
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Not sure about this. I think they are separate from literature/creative writing. Nobody, as far as I know, is claiming that the Harry Potter books are the word of God, or that the magic described in The Lord of the Rings is historically accurate.

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Religion doesnt warrant a whole period in school.Time is precious and enough has been wasted throughout the years ramming ideologies down peoples throats. By all means address it in a historical context as it's been and continues to be a major factor in conflicts/wars on this planet..

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I agree about the historical context. Teach it in history class then. And also geography, as you say it continues to be a major factor in conflict and war. Add in cooking/home economics class as it relates to food, economics finance for tax exemptions, politics/ethics for all the impacts, past and present, on laws that govern us still, numerous language classes for role in the evolution of many languages primarily by religion, and more...

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There you go

Between all that exposure pupils should get a measured view of the positive and negative impacts religion has or has had on the world thus leaving time for the more important skills and knowledge to be thought to our kids. Skills and knowledge that will actually help them in the real world

If people want their children to have more exposure to religion than that i.e. a class dedicated to religious education, there are loads of religious run schools out there to choose from

On balance so far, it would seem most people are relatively comfortable with the concept of religions being taught (not instructed) alongside other historical and/or contemporary cultural movements, under a cultural studies curriculum.

For me, that'd actually be a very, very important use of a couple of hours of high school kids' time each week.

How many kids leave school without understanding how our Parliamentary system works? What democracy is, how it can work (and fail), and what the alternatives are? How subcultures form and why we need them to help us form social groups? What capitalism is, why it needs continuous growth and wealth inequality, and how it is propped up by the institutions that keep it alive? This is critically important stuff for people to understand.

What is not OK for me, and shouldn't exist in any school, state run or otherwise, is religious instruction. No assemblies, no collective prayer time, no text studies. That, if it has to be done, should be done outside mainstream schooling in a distinct environment.

It is important that schools don't discriminate and respect the religious needs of kids (and their parents): space and time to pray in, freedom to choose to wear different clothing, etc. But kids should be absolutely free to choose whether to follow a particular doctrine or not when they reach a sensible age, and for me, schools absolutely shouldn't be a part of directing them one way or another.

I wouldnt argue the toss over 1 or 2 hours a week for students to sit around exploring and examining different cultures and faiths, although personally speaking 1 or 2 hours a month would be more than enough time to dedicate to it before it becomes an opportunity for students to doss and goof around.

Schools should be mindful of the diversity of their student population and could/should tailor certain lesson plans, in history for example , that instills both knowledge and understanding.

In an ideal world everything religious should be parked at the school doors before entering, by student , teachers and parents alike.