City already have a great side, they play the best football I have ever seen from an English club, and their 100 point haul ends all sensible debate, they are the best team in the history of the Premier League/Football League.
But yes, they must win the Champions League, there is simply no good reason why they can't, so to fail to do so would be a significant dent in their legacy.
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 14 minutes ago
Between 2008 and 2011 United made 3 CL finals. That was the sign of a great team and great manager
What City at the very least need to do is make a final or two. Even Pellegrini got them to a semi!
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That’s a prime example of it only meaning so much though to be fair, we were nowhere near as good that season as we have been others and gone out quicker.
Having not won the Champions League doesn't detract from the pleasure I've had watching them over the last 6/7 years.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 15 minutes ago
Yeah officials can have a huge influence on a team’s progression in the CL.
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Im not a fan of Chelsea but the game against Barca looked corrupt tbh
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I don't think so, he was just a rubbish ref out of his depth. He fecked Fiorentina over in similar fashion vs Bayern the following year.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 14 minutes ago
Between 2008 and 2011 United made 3 CL finals. That was the sign of a great team and great manager
What City at the very least need to do is make a final or two. Even Pellegrini got them to a semi!
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That’s a prime example of it only meaning so much though to be fair, we were nowhere near as good that season as we have been others and gone out quicker.
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True, but winning it is a whole different kettle of fish. It shows 99 times out of 100 you are the best team in Europe and legitimises the legacy of a team.
Haven't read any comments but the simple answer is yes, how many sides are considered great that haven't won the CL?
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
I think they need to win 2-3 leagues on the bounce and yes within that time (or immediately after) win a CL.
To be on par with teams like Liverpool in the 80s and United in the 90s/00s they need both a CL in there and consecutive league titles.
I think they have a good chance of doing that in my opinion.
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There's the correct answer
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 21 seconds ago
Haven't read any comments but the simple answer is yes, how many sides are considered great that haven't won the CL?
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Arsenal 03/04?
Don’t agree with your first bit there robb. There’s been more than a few times when the winner of it hasn’t even been the best team in their own league. It is a cup competition, after all.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
Between 2008 and 2011 United made 3 CL finals. That was the sign of a great team and great manager
What City at the very least need to do is make a final or two. Even Pellegrini got them to a semi!
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If/when they win the league this season they'll still be in the debate imo just as the invinsibles are.
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Thanks invisibles aren't though.
No way are they talked about in the same vein as the great Barca, Milan, United, Bayern sides. If you go further back then we have the Liverpool, Juve, Ajax etc from 60-90.
comment by (U19770)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 21 seconds ago
Haven't read any comments but the simple answer is yes, how many sides are considered great that haven't won the CL?
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Arsenal 03/04?
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Guess it depends how you define great. If the invinsibles are in that bracket, it's open to a hell of a lot of sides.
Were Steaua Bucharest a great side when they won it?
A hell of a lot of sides have been great in the history of football.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
Don’t agree with your first bit there robb. There’s been more than a few times when the winner of it hasn’t even been the best team in their own league. It is a cup competition, after all.
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How many of those sacrificed the league for the CL? I do get that not every side who wins the CL is the best team out there but at the same time to be considered a great side you do need to win the CL
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
Don’t agree with your first bit there robb. There’s been more than a few times when the winner of it hasn’t even been the best team in their own league. It is a cup competition, after all.
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How many of those sacrificed the league for the CL? I do get that not every side who wins the CL is the best team out there but at the same time to be considered a great side you do need to win the CL
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Have you written an article asking a question to then just tell people theyre wrong?
Ultimately City’s aim, especially with the insane amount of money spent should be to become the best side in Europe
They can only do that by winning the CL
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
Don’t agree with your first bit there robb. There’s been more than a few times when the winner of it hasn’t even been the best team in their own league. It is a cup competition, after all.
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How many of those sacrificed the league for the CL? I do get that not every side who wins the CL is the best team out there but at the same time to be considered a great side you do need to win the CL
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Have you written an article asking a question to then just tell people theyre wrong?
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I already gave my opinion in the OP
RDD was the one who did articles without giving an opinion. Just a two lined question
Well I think winning a CL cements a legacy in the record books but I feel that if objective you can call the quality of a side regardless of a cup competition.
I'm not sure Real have been the best side in Europe these past three years and yet the will be considered great (rightly so).
I know looking back I'll likely think this City side is/was very, very good at football.
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
It would cement their legacy, but they can be the best side in Europe without winning one, infact they already are.
There’s a difference between being the best team in Europe and being considered a great side. I don’t no how anyone can claim a team that racks up 100 points in a season isn’t just that based on the lack of CL title.
Same for Arsenal in 04 and Chelsea in 05 and 06. Take your pick of the United sides that didn’t. And that’s just in the pl. All over Europe there’s been plenty of great teams that didn’t win it.
Juve have won the league seven years in a row, breaking records on a regular basis. You can’t tell me they aren’t a great side.
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
It would cement their legacy, but they can be the best side in Europe without winning one, infact they already are.
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Are they the best side in Europe?
I think Juventus or Barca would have something to say about that
The Juve and Barca that can’t win the CL in recent years?
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posted on 5/11/18
City already have a great side, they play the best football I have ever seen from an English club, and their 100 point haul ends all sensible debate, they are the best team in the history of the Premier League/Football League.
But yes, they must win the Champions League, there is simply no good reason why they can't, so to fail to do so would be a significant dent in their legacy.
posted on 5/11/18
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 14 minutes ago
Between 2008 and 2011 United made 3 CL finals. That was the sign of a great team and great manager
What City at the very least need to do is make a final or two. Even Pellegrini got them to a semi!
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That’s a prime example of it only meaning so much though to be fair, we were nowhere near as good that season as we have been others and gone out quicker.
posted on 5/11/18
Having not won the Champions League doesn't detract from the pleasure I've had watching them over the last 6/7 years.
posted on 5/11/18
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 15 minutes ago
Yeah officials can have a huge influence on a team’s progression in the CL.
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Im not a fan of Chelsea but the game against Barca looked corrupt tbh
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I don't think so, he was just a rubbish ref out of his depth. He fecked Fiorentina over in similar fashion vs Bayern the following year.
posted on 5/11/18
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 14 minutes ago
Between 2008 and 2011 United made 3 CL finals. That was the sign of a great team and great manager
What City at the very least need to do is make a final or two. Even Pellegrini got them to a semi!
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That’s a prime example of it only meaning so much though to be fair, we were nowhere near as good that season as we have been others and gone out quicker.
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True, but winning it is a whole different kettle of fish. It shows 99 times out of 100 you are the best team in Europe and legitimises the legacy of a team.
posted on 5/11/18
Haven't read any comments but the simple answer is yes, how many sides are considered great that haven't won the CL?
posted on 5/11/18
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
I think they need to win 2-3 leagues on the bounce and yes within that time (or immediately after) win a CL.
To be on par with teams like Liverpool in the 80s and United in the 90s/00s they need both a CL in there and consecutive league titles.
I think they have a good chance of doing that in my opinion.
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There's the correct answer
posted on 5/11/18
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 21 seconds ago
Haven't read any comments but the simple answer is yes, how many sides are considered great that haven't won the CL?
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Arsenal 03/04?
posted on 5/11/18
Don’t agree with your first bit there robb. There’s been more than a few times when the winner of it hasn’t even been the best team in their own league. It is a cup competition, after all.
posted on 5/11/18
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
Between 2008 and 2011 United made 3 CL finals. That was the sign of a great team and great manager
What City at the very least need to do is make a final or two. Even Pellegrini got them to a semi!
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If/when they win the league this season they'll still be in the debate imo just as the invinsibles are.
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Thanks invisibles aren't though.
No way are they talked about in the same vein as the great Barca, Milan, United, Bayern sides. If you go further back then we have the Liverpool, Juve, Ajax etc from 60-90.
posted on 5/11/18
comment by (U19770)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 21 seconds ago
Haven't read any comments but the simple answer is yes, how many sides are considered great that haven't won the CL?
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Arsenal 03/04?
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Guess it depends how you define great. If the invinsibles are in that bracket, it's open to a hell of a lot of sides.
posted on 5/11/18
Mourinhos Chelsea.
posted on 5/11/18
Were Steaua Bucharest a great side when they won it?
posted on 5/11/18
A hell of a lot of sides have been great in the history of football.
posted on 5/11/18
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
Don’t agree with your first bit there robb. There’s been more than a few times when the winner of it hasn’t even been the best team in their own league. It is a cup competition, after all.
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How many of those sacrificed the league for the CL? I do get that not every side who wins the CL is the best team out there but at the same time to be considered a great side you do need to win the CL
posted on 5/11/18
One that I can remember.
posted on 5/11/18
Meant to say none!
posted on 5/11/18
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
Don’t agree with your first bit there robb. There’s been more than a few times when the winner of it hasn’t even been the best team in their own league. It is a cup competition, after all.
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How many of those sacrificed the league for the CL? I do get that not every side who wins the CL is the best team out there but at the same time to be considered a great side you do need to win the CL
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Have you written an article asking a question to then just tell people theyre wrong?
posted on 5/11/18
Ultimately City’s aim, especially with the insane amount of money spent should be to become the best side in Europe
They can only do that by winning the CL
posted on 5/11/18
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
Don’t agree with your first bit there robb. There’s been more than a few times when the winner of it hasn’t even been the best team in their own league. It is a cup competition, after all.
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How many of those sacrificed the league for the CL? I do get that not every side who wins the CL is the best team out there but at the same time to be considered a great side you do need to win the CL
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Have you written an article asking a question to then just tell people theyre wrong?
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I already gave my opinion in the OP
RDD was the one who did articles without giving an opinion. Just a two lined question
posted on 5/11/18
Well I think winning a CL cements a legacy in the record books but I feel that if objective you can call the quality of a side regardless of a cup competition.
I'm not sure Real have been the best side in Europe these past three years and yet the will be considered great (rightly so).
I know looking back I'll likely think this City side is/was very, very good at football.
posted on 5/11/18
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
It would cement their legacy, but they can be the best side in Europe without winning one, infact they already are.
posted on 5/11/18
There’s a difference between being the best team in Europe and being considered a great side. I don’t no how anyone can claim a team that racks up 100 points in a season isn’t just that based on the lack of CL title.
Same for Arsenal in 04 and Chelsea in 05 and 06. Take your pick of the United sides that didn’t. And that’s just in the pl. All over Europe there’s been plenty of great teams that didn’t win it.
Juve have won the league seven years in a row, breaking records on a regular basis. You can’t tell me they aren’t a great side.
posted on 5/11/18
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
It would cement their legacy, but they can be the best side in Europe without winning one, infact they already are.
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Are they the best side in Europe?
I think Juventus or Barca would have something to say about that
posted on 5/11/18
The Juve and Barca that can’t win the CL in recent years?
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