comment by tommy mundons fashion advisor (U8869)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
do you think we're all thick ?
that we think its how long a player holds on to the ball ?
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Well you are the one that said this:-

“The lesson is that an out and out thrilling to watch attacking team will not have a high possession stat, the teams that pass 15 btimes and gain 5 yards do that.”

You thick arrogant pwick 👍

The lesson is that you do not have a fookin clue what you are talking about!

An all out attacking team will not have a high possession stat 😂😂😂😂😂😂

comment by NUTS (U21985)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by tommy mundons fashion advisor (U8869)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
do you think we're all thick ?
that we think its how long a player holds on to the ball ?
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Well you are the one that said this:-

“The lesson is that an out and out thrilling to watch attacking team will not have a high possession stat, the teams that pass 15 btimes and gain 5 yards do that.”

You thick arrogant pwick 👍

The lesson is that you do not have a fookin clue what you are talking about!

An all out attacking team will not have a high possession stat 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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I believe his point in that post you quoted was that a team who only passes between the backline and sideways in midfield can have better possession stats than a team who passes with intent. That is a valid point based on how possession stats are calculated.

You have both managed to make yourselves a bit stupid here to be honest.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NUTS (U21985)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by tommy mundons fashion advisor (U8869)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
do you think we're all thick ?
that we think its how long a player holds on to the ball ?
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Well you are the one that said this:-

“The lesson is that an out and out thrilling to watch attacking team will not have a high possession stat, the teams that pass 15 btimes and gain 5 yards do that.”

You thick arrogant pwick 👍

The lesson is that you do not have a fookin clue what you are talking about!

An all out attacking team will not have a high possession stat 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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I believe his point in that post you quoted was that a team who only passes between the backline and sideways in midfield can have better possession stats than a team who passes with intent. That is a valid point based on how possession stats are calculated.

You have both managed to make yourselves a bit stupid here to be honest.
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All I posted was the facts in terms of how the stats are compiled so I am lost as to why that makes me a bit stupid 🤔

Perhaps you would just need to be stupid to make such an unfounded assumption?

comment by NUTS (U21985)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NUTS (U21985)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by tommy mundons fashion advisor (U8869)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
do you think we're all thick ?
that we think its how long a player holds on to the ball ?
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Well you are the one that said this:-

“The lesson is that an out and out thrilling to watch attacking team will not have a high possession stat, the teams that pass 15 btimes and gain 5 yards do that.”

You thick arrogant pwick 👍

The lesson is that you do not have a fookin clue what you are talking about!

An all out attacking team will not have a high possession stat 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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I believe his point in that post you quoted was that a team who only passes between the backline and sideways in midfield can have better possession stats than a team who passes with intent. That is a valid point based on how possession stats are calculated.

You have both managed to make yourselves a bit stupid here to be honest.
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All I posted was the facts in terms of how the stats are compiled so I am lost as to why that makes me a bit stupid 🤔

Perhaps you would just need to be stupid to make such an unfounded assumption?
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I didn’t say your original post was stupid though, did I?

I said that the post you just quoted did not contradict your original post on how possession stats are calculated. By incorrectly suggesting it did, you inadvertently made yourself look just as silly.

I think where people get confused with all this is saying passing is more important than possession or vice versa when the stats are just different presentations of the same facts.

What would probably be more telling is the number of forward passes a player or team makes, and a measure of the actual time spent in possession

But it did, as he said that an out and out attacking team WILL NOT have a high possession stat as it is fairly obvious that an attacking team will pass more

It is quite simply nonsense to suggest an attacking team will have a low possession stat

Matt Doherty picked up a facial injury in the 90th minute of the game at Arsenal. He is scheduled to have a scan and is doubtful for the Irish games in the next week, and could face a period on the sidelines

All this back and forth about stats. Like I said before, they're all a load of bollox. What matters is, who wins.

Stats can be very useful in giving an idea as to a sides strengths and weaknesses.

You can clearly defined sides that don't look after the ball and complete 60% of passes and sides that pump it long 100 times a game.

You've only got to watch matches to see different sides' strengths and weaknesses. Tale Arsenal for example. I've seen them a lot this year and suggested before the game that we concentrate on their left sided defence, as they're vulnerable right now with injuries.

Seems like Doherty played well and Costa had a field day down that side, especially from the clips I saw.

Arsenal had 72% possession, yet we came away with a deserved 1-1 draw, but by all accounts and from what I saw, we should have won. So what good are those stats?

Whilst the stats don't tell you everything and we were the better side Sunday does anybody think we are actually better than Arsenal? Surely not and they will prove that by finishing 20+ points ahead of us.

And if you look at the possession stats around europe it isn't a coincidence the best teams have the best possession stats, better players simply pass the ball better over a season in general and better teams dictate the play more often than not.

VAR is to be used in the Premier League from next season

comment by wolfieintheSunshineState (U16306)
posted 1 day, 2 hours ago
You've only got to watch matches to see different sides' strengths and weaknesses. Tale Arsenal for example. I've seen them a lot this year and suggested before the game that we concentrate on their left sided defence, as they're vulnerable right now with injuries.

Seems like Doherty played well and Costa had a field day down that side, especially from the clips I saw.

Arsenal had 72% possession, yet we came away with a deserved 1-1 draw, but by all accounts and from what I saw, we should have won. So what good are those stats?
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Wolves goal came from Cavaleiro who was playing on the left. Jonny had probably his best game for Wolves playing on the left. Traore came on and played in the centre and caused havoc

Mexico play 2 matches against Argentina in this international break. Good to read that they have agreed to release Jiminez after the first game so he will be able to travel back early to prepare for the following week’s game against Huddersfield

comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 1 day, 22 hours ago
I think where people get confused with all this is saying passing is more important than possession or vice versa when the stats are just different presentations of the same facts.

What would probably be more telling is the number of forward passes a player or team makes, and a measure of the actual time spent in possession
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perhaps time in the oppo.s defensive third would give an even better indication

Always got to contradict what I post, haven't you DJ. If you read me earlier post, I suggested that the Arsenal defense is vulnerable right now and they don't have a regular LB.

I'm well aware of who scored, but my latest point was re-interating how weak they were on their left side, hence Costa had one of his best games, backed up by Doherty.

Maybe Gem will understand that it's not just me that causes this friction. If I said that grey was grey, you'd argue that it was off white.

I am not disagreeing that Costa had a very good game. All I am pointing out is that we also caused them problems on the left and in the centre and to me that is to do with how well we played, not to do with Arsenal being weak defending on the right, left and centre.

I hadn't realised that giving that opinion was something that would cause friction

Reading that Bonatini is set to be a January transfer target for Galatasaray. Be a good move for the player and club if true, and would be a sign we intend bringing in another striker in

We all love Leo for his attitude and work rate but we simply can no longer afford any passengers in the squad. Nuno has been more than fair with him and given him ample chances to find his previous form but ultimately his lack of goals has seen him fall out of favour.

Yes its a shame that it hasn't worked out for him. He proved in the first half of last season that he is not short on ability. Main problem he has now is that he is a similar kind of player to Jiminez, but not as good. Ideally we will instead bring in a player that brings something different to the forward line, and someone that has a good scoring record.


But if its true that Galatasaray are interested, then every chance we will make a profit on his transfer fee

Neves and Patricio in the Portugal team for tonight’s game against Italy in Milan. A draw will be enough to put Portugal through to the 4 team knockout finals of the competition that is held next summer.

In the finals also will be Belgium, plus Holland or France and Spain or England

Germany finished bottom of their group and will be relegated to an easier tier for the next Nations League in two years

Neves picks up a booking so is suspended from their game in midweek against Poland. Shame that

Patricio saving Portugal with some excellent saves in the first period

Soft yellow card for Neves. At least he will be back early with Jimenez so both will be well rested for the Hudders game.

I see Jota scored for Portugal U21, An almost perfect carbon copy of the one he didn't score against Arsenal.

I think we need to stick with Jota at least until we bring someone else in January. He has more goals in him than Costa, Cavaleiro and Traore put together if we can just get him going