comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Or just use CHO and save £50m+ on Pulisic!
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As an unbiased American, that is a stupid idea.
soccer?lol.
comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Or just use CHO and save £50m+ on Pulisic!
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As an unbiased American, that is a stupid idea.
soccer?lol.
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I appreciate your unbiasedness!!
Would do wonders for our fan base and shirt sales in the U S of A , Brum !
comment by harlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 13 minutes ago
Would do wonders for our fan base and shirt sales in the U S of A , Brum !
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That's the spirit. U S A !
soccer?lol.
Lets offer £100m for him then!
CHO can do one!
comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, 'I Have Fought the Big Knives and Will Continue t (U16342)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 24 minutes ago
Perisic or at least based on last season and the World Cup, mind, is still quality. Would suit PL footy easily
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Cobsbollocks!
Why is there such bias towards foreign players when there are plenty of world class players in the prem like Harry Kane, Zaha or Sterling for example. I haven't even heard of this fella you are talking about, but its typical grass is always greener on the other side kind of attitude.
This is the kind of thinking which leaves us with players like Zhirkov, Mikel and Torres
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you show your ignorance of Chelsea and football in general when you mention Mikel in that way, as he was undropable for so many Coaches and managers in his Career with us even though for 95%of the time he was played out of his natural position.
Didn’t you have difficulties with Dortmund over Bats when they wanted him permanently? It seems unlikely they’d sell Pulisic and then take one of your players on loan just to develop them.
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Nah, intentionally they wanted a future fee clause but they decided not to even try and buy him once his loan expired.
It depends whether they see CHO in the same light as Chelsea fans do. I personally haven't seen much of him, I'm trusting the opinions of everyone else, and if that's the case (i.e. he is that good) a loan to Dortmund, whether he's directly competing or playing with Sancho, would do wonders for him. That club's record with young attacking players is fantastic, he'd be better off there than with us as a teenager for sure
comment by The Devil's Advocate's Advocate - I Represent Him (U6522)
posted 6 minutes ago
Didn’t you have difficulties with Dortmund over Bats when they wanted him permanently? It seems unlikely they’d sell Pulisic and then take one of your players on loan just to develop them.
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Nah, intentionally they wanted a future fee clause but they decided not to even try and buy him once his loan expired.
It depends whether they see CHO in the same light as Chelsea fans do. I personally haven't seen much of him, I'm trusting the opinions of everyone else, and if that's the case (i.e. he is that good) a loan to Dortmund, whether he's directly competing or playing with Sancho, would do wonders for him. That club's record with young attacking players is fantastic, he'd be better off there than with us as a teenager for sure
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Not if he were to be actually given a chance he wouldn't.
The lack of opportunity we give our young players is something that does grate on me now.
Not wishing to detract from Alexander Arnold, and Gomez but they played in Liverpool youth teams that couldn't live with our kids. I remember games where our lads absolutely schooled them.
But Liverpool have given them a chance and look at them now - playing for England in a competetive match as we speak.
Or just use CHO and save £50m+ on Pulisic!
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We give up on young players far too quickly though. Christensen was one of the Bundesliga's best CB's for two years and it took him one year to be out of favor, the slightest hint of weakness in his game and CHO would be chucked in the bin by us.
If he was loaned to Dortmund, even if he wasn't playing regularly you know they'll take care of him a lot better than we would. Just seems like smart business to me (if they were interested in taking him of course).
Yes but we don't seem to even play Christensen or Ruben Loftus Cheek on a regular basis even with them showing that they have got enough talent to be a useful supersub.I wanted CHO and RLC to get proper opportunities not 1 in 4 matches.
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, 'I Have Fought the Big Knives and Will Continue t (U16342)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 24 minutes ago
Perisic or at least based on last season and the World Cup, mind, is still quality. Would suit PL footy easily
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Cobsbollocks!
Why is there such bias towards foreign players when there are plenty of world class players in the prem like Harry Kane, Zaha or Sterling for example. I haven't even heard of this fella you are talking about, but its typical grass is always greener on the other side kind of attitude.
This is the kind of thinking which leaves us with players like Zhirkov, Mikel and Torres
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you show your ignorance of Chelsea and football in general when you mention Mikel in that way, as he was undropable for so many Coaches and managers in his Career with us even though for 95%of the time he was played out of his natural position.
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What was his natural position, number 10?
The guy could not even make a forward pass
comment by ZahraIhsanphile (U20361)
posted 4 minutes ago
Yes but we don't seem to even play Christensen or Ruben Loftus Cheek on a regular basis even with them showing that they have got enough talent to be a useful supersub.I wanted CHO and RLC to get proper opportunities not 1 in 4 matches.
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We probably wouldn't be unbeaten had we been the rotating game after game.
Loftus Cheek to be honest isn't getting game time because he lacks discipline. He is holding himself back.
Not if he were to be actually given a chance he wouldn't.
The lack of opportunity we give our young players is something that does grate on me now.
Not wishing to detract from Alexander Arnold, and Gomez but they played in Liverpool youth teams that couldn't live with our kids. I remember games where our lads absolutely schooled them.
But Liverpool have given them a chance and look at them now - playing for England in a competetive match as we speak.
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I've always been in two minds about this. Gomez & TAA aren't quite fair examples because the set up Klopp has got Pool playing is greater than the sum of it's parts by design - it's why Salah & Mane can look world class when it clicks + why they lost almost nothing by selling Coutinho. It speaks more about Klopp as a manager and the tactical identity he's given Pool that allows them to blood youngsters in naturally, he did the same at Dortmund.
And that sort of segues to my next point. When we appointed Sarri we knew we were getting a heavy philosophy manager who didn't have the best track record of trusting young players as a matter of principle (like Poch for example). If Sarri's not playing CHO it's because he believes he's not better equipped to play his football than Willian, Pedro or even Moses, and we have to accept that.
But with that being the case loaning him out to somewhere like Dortmund, as an example, would be the best possible outcome for everyone involved. I can only really judge him by hype as I've not seen much, but if he's anything close to Sancho that move could make his career
comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, 'I Have Fought the Big Knives and Will Continue t (U16342)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, 'I Have Fought the Big Knives and Will Continue t (U16342)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 24 minutes ago
Perisic or at least based on last season and the World Cup, mind, is still quality. Would suit PL footy easily
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Cobsbollocks!
Why is there such bias towards foreign players when there are plenty of world class players in the prem like Harry Kane, Zaha or Sterling for example. I haven't even heard of this fella you are talking about, but its typical grass is always greener on the other side kind of attitude.
This is the kind of thinking which leaves us with players like Zhirkov, Mikel and Torres
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you show your ignorance of Chelsea and football in general when you mention Mikel in that way, as he was undropable for so many Coaches and managers in his Career with us even though for 95%of the time he was played out of his natural position.
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What was his natural position, number 10?
The guy could not even make a forward pass
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Mikel at number 10 seems like the definition of unnatural
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UBl3ewW2A0
talented guy Attacking midfielder was his natural position Jose bored that out of him. Long video that seems most in here balance their views on and i can see only 1 backpass but many LONG forward passes
No complaints with J O M, he was a model professional for us for 10 years or so,always did what he was told by Mourinho,thereby going from an attacking midfielder to a defensive one,and never complained.
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comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
I wish we'd just fking use Hudson-Odoi
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we...?
has he been transferred to Utd this week
What do you guys think about Piatek?
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Think it's way too soon to judge but given Morata's form, the lack of better targets and the uncertainty over our potential transfer ban we'll buy him in January for crazy money in a blind panic.
Just watch
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UBl3ewW2A0
talented guy Attacking midfielder was his natural position Jose bored that out of him. Long video that seems most in here balance their views on and i can see only 1 backpass but many LONG forward passes
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The only thing that video shows is how great the nostalgia is, when an awful quality youtube vid is combined with a great tune from the mid 2000s
But in all seriousness someone could make a compilation to make Bakayoko look great
They obviously still had issues. It goes against their ethos to develop players for others, without getting a big pay queque.
Other clubs have a much better way of bringing their youth into the first team squad and developing them, but at the same time being better at youth level doesn’t mean much. Which Chelsea’s academy shows because not many have gone on to have as good a career as lesser youth players.
I would rather break the bank for Icardi instead of paying silly money from Piatek!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR7SyoFXz84
comment by ZahraIhsanphile (U20361)
posted 22 seconds ago
I would rather break the bank for Icardi instead of paying silly money from Piatek!
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Bloomin hell, whats with your man crush on Icardi?
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posted on 18/11/18
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Or just use CHO and save £50m+ on Pulisic!
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As an unbiased American, that is a stupid idea.
soccer?lol.
posted on 18/11/18
comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Or just use CHO and save £50m+ on Pulisic!
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As an unbiased American, that is a stupid idea.
soccer?lol.
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I appreciate your unbiasedness!!
posted on 18/11/18
Would do wonders for our fan base and shirt sales in the U S of A , Brum !
posted on 18/11/18
comment by harlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 13 minutes ago
Would do wonders for our fan base and shirt sales in the U S of A , Brum !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's the spirit. U S A !
soccer?lol.
posted on 18/11/18
Lets offer £100m for him then!
CHO can do one!
posted on 18/11/18
comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, 'I Have Fought the Big Knives and Will Continue t (U16342)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 24 minutes ago
Perisic or at least based on last season and the World Cup, mind, is still quality. Would suit PL footy easily
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cobsbollocks!
Why is there such bias towards foreign players when there are plenty of world class players in the prem like Harry Kane, Zaha or Sterling for example. I haven't even heard of this fella you are talking about, but its typical grass is always greener on the other side kind of attitude.
This is the kind of thinking which leaves us with players like Zhirkov, Mikel and Torres
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you show your ignorance of Chelsea and football in general when you mention Mikel in that way, as he was undropable for so many Coaches and managers in his Career with us even though for 95%of the time he was played out of his natural position.
posted on 18/11/18
Didn’t you have difficulties with Dortmund over Bats when they wanted him permanently? It seems unlikely they’d sell Pulisic and then take one of your players on loan just to develop them.
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Nah, intentionally they wanted a future fee clause but they decided not to even try and buy him once his loan expired.
It depends whether they see CHO in the same light as Chelsea fans do. I personally haven't seen much of him, I'm trusting the opinions of everyone else, and if that's the case (i.e. he is that good) a loan to Dortmund, whether he's directly competing or playing with Sancho, would do wonders for him. That club's record with young attacking players is fantastic, he'd be better off there than with us as a teenager for sure
posted on 18/11/18
*initially
posted on 18/11/18
comment by The Devil's Advocate's Advocate - I Represent Him (U6522)
posted 6 minutes ago
Didn’t you have difficulties with Dortmund over Bats when they wanted him permanently? It seems unlikely they’d sell Pulisic and then take one of your players on loan just to develop them.
--------------------------------------------------------
Nah, intentionally they wanted a future fee clause but they decided not to even try and buy him once his loan expired.
It depends whether they see CHO in the same light as Chelsea fans do. I personally haven't seen much of him, I'm trusting the opinions of everyone else, and if that's the case (i.e. he is that good) a loan to Dortmund, whether he's directly competing or playing with Sancho, would do wonders for him. That club's record with young attacking players is fantastic, he'd be better off there than with us as a teenager for sure
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not if he were to be actually given a chance he wouldn't.
The lack of opportunity we give our young players is something that does grate on me now.
Not wishing to detract from Alexander Arnold, and Gomez but they played in Liverpool youth teams that couldn't live with our kids. I remember games where our lads absolutely schooled them.
But Liverpool have given them a chance and look at them now - playing for England in a competetive match as we speak.
posted on 18/11/18
Or just use CHO and save £50m+ on Pulisic!
-----------------------------------------------------------------
We give up on young players far too quickly though. Christensen was one of the Bundesliga's best CB's for two years and it took him one year to be out of favor, the slightest hint of weakness in his game and CHO would be chucked in the bin by us.
If he was loaned to Dortmund, even if he wasn't playing regularly you know they'll take care of him a lot better than we would. Just seems like smart business to me (if they were interested in taking him of course).
posted on 18/11/18
Yes but we don't seem to even play Christensen or Ruben Loftus Cheek on a regular basis even with them showing that they have got enough talent to be a useful supersub.I wanted CHO and RLC to get proper opportunities not 1 in 4 matches.
posted on 18/11/18
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, 'I Have Fought the Big Knives and Will Continue t (U16342)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 24 minutes ago
Perisic or at least based on last season and the World Cup, mind, is still quality. Would suit PL footy easily
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cobsbollocks!
Why is there such bias towards foreign players when there are plenty of world class players in the prem like Harry Kane, Zaha or Sterling for example. I haven't even heard of this fella you are talking about, but its typical grass is always greener on the other side kind of attitude.
This is the kind of thinking which leaves us with players like Zhirkov, Mikel and Torres
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you show your ignorance of Chelsea and football in general when you mention Mikel in that way, as he was undropable for so many Coaches and managers in his Career with us even though for 95%of the time he was played out of his natural position.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What was his natural position, number 10?
The guy could not even make a forward pass
posted on 18/11/18
comment by ZahraIhsanphile (U20361)
posted 4 minutes ago
Yes but we don't seem to even play Christensen or Ruben Loftus Cheek on a regular basis even with them showing that they have got enough talent to be a useful supersub.I wanted CHO and RLC to get proper opportunities not 1 in 4 matches.
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We probably wouldn't be unbeaten had we been the rotating game after game.
Loftus Cheek to be honest isn't getting game time because he lacks discipline. He is holding himself back.
posted on 18/11/18
Not if he were to be actually given a chance he wouldn't.
The lack of opportunity we give our young players is something that does grate on me now.
Not wishing to detract from Alexander Arnold, and Gomez but they played in Liverpool youth teams that couldn't live with our kids. I remember games where our lads absolutely schooled them.
But Liverpool have given them a chance and look at them now - playing for England in a competetive match as we speak.
---------------------------------------------------------
I've always been in two minds about this. Gomez & TAA aren't quite fair examples because the set up Klopp has got Pool playing is greater than the sum of it's parts by design - it's why Salah & Mane can look world class when it clicks + why they lost almost nothing by selling Coutinho. It speaks more about Klopp as a manager and the tactical identity he's given Pool that allows them to blood youngsters in naturally, he did the same at Dortmund.
And that sort of segues to my next point. When we appointed Sarri we knew we were getting a heavy philosophy manager who didn't have the best track record of trusting young players as a matter of principle (like Poch for example). If Sarri's not playing CHO it's because he believes he's not better equipped to play his football than Willian, Pedro or even Moses, and we have to accept that.
But with that being the case loaning him out to somewhere like Dortmund, as an example, would be the best possible outcome for everyone involved. I can only really judge him by hype as I've not seen much, but if he's anything close to Sancho that move could make his career
posted on 18/11/18
comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, 'I Have Fought the Big Knives and Will Continue t (U16342)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, 'I Have Fought the Big Knives and Will Continue t (U16342)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 24 minutes ago
Perisic or at least based on last season and the World Cup, mind, is still quality. Would suit PL footy easily
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cobsbollocks!
Why is there such bias towards foreign players when there are plenty of world class players in the prem like Harry Kane, Zaha or Sterling for example. I haven't even heard of this fella you are talking about, but its typical grass is always greener on the other side kind of attitude.
This is the kind of thinking which leaves us with players like Zhirkov, Mikel and Torres
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you show your ignorance of Chelsea and football in general when you mention Mikel in that way, as he was undropable for so many Coaches and managers in his Career with us even though for 95%of the time he was played out of his natural position.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What was his natural position, number 10?
The guy could not even make a forward pass
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mikel at number 10 seems like the definition of unnatural
posted on 18/11/18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UBl3ewW2A0
talented guy Attacking midfielder was his natural position Jose bored that out of him. Long video that seems most in here balance their views on and i can see only 1 backpass but many LONG forward passes
posted on 18/11/18
No complaints with J O M, he was a model professional for us for 10 years or so,always did what he was told by Mourinho,thereby going from an attacking midfielder to a defensive one,and never complained.
posted on 18/11/18
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posted on 18/11/18
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
I wish we'd just fking use Hudson-Odoi
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we...?
has he been transferred to Utd this week
posted on 18/11/18
What do you guys think about Piatek?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Think it's way too soon to judge but given Morata's form, the lack of better targets and the uncertainty over our potential transfer ban we'll buy him in January for crazy money in a blind panic.
Just watch
posted on 18/11/18
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UBl3ewW2A0
talented guy Attacking midfielder was his natural position Jose bored that out of him. Long video that seems most in here balance their views on and i can see only 1 backpass but many LONG forward passes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only thing that video shows is how great the nostalgia is, when an awful quality youtube vid is combined with a great tune from the mid 2000s
But in all seriousness someone could make a compilation to make Bakayoko look great
posted on 18/11/18
They obviously still had issues. It goes against their ethos to develop players for others, without getting a big pay queque.
Other clubs have a much better way of bringing their youth into the first team squad and developing them, but at the same time being better at youth level doesn’t mean much. Which Chelsea’s academy shows because not many have gone on to have as good a career as lesser youth players.
posted on 18/11/18
I would rather break the bank for Icardi instead of paying silly money from Piatek!
posted on 18/11/18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR7SyoFXz84
posted on 18/11/18
comment by ZahraIhsanphile (U20361)
posted 22 seconds ago
I would rather break the bank for Icardi instead of paying silly money from Piatek!
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Bloomin hell, whats with your man crush on Icardi?
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