All going on Ideguchi's and O'Kane's wages now they're back.
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 4 minutes ago
All going on Ideguchi's and O'Kane's wages now they're back.
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Have you gone to glass 60% empty now?
Offset by savings on Blackman loan (which may exceed the amounts of the other two?).
No way he’s on more than both of them, you can throw in browns wages now as well.
I’ll wager we’re making another loss this season.
O'Kane is on a packet.Never get him off the payroll. He is the next Luke Murphy being loaned out season after season
Injured players wages are covered by insurance not the club
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 4 minutes ago
Injured players wages are covered by insurance not the club
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Excellent point!
So the club is saving a huge amount, likely more than they were under the loans.
So potentially an even huger pot!
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 26 minutes ago
Injured players wages are covered by insurance not the club
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Makes me wonder if AR might be tripping our players up in the corridors and leaving banana skins in the showers to increase profitability given the insurance payouts?
I NEVER knew insurance payouts would cover players, assumed the club always picked up the bill.
comment by AZA (U5000)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
I NEVER knew insurance payouts would cover players, assumed the club always picked up the bill.
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Probably why Chelsea were happy to pick up all of Browns wages and medical bills whilst he was injured. Now he’s nearing full recovery I guess he will cost us.
Insurance of this nature is very expensive. We provide career ending cover to professional sportsmen and the premiums are dependent on salaries etc..
Long term injuries will no doubt be covered but short term ones are unlikely to be picked up.
There's a budget clearly being worked to and AR has already said he would bankroll exceptional purchases outside of that such as Vydra (did he make the wrong choice.....?).
We are not skint. Absolute nonsense. We wouldn't be making our financial commitments otherwise. Scaremongering to suit bizarre agendas again. I do wonder where the loyalties of such people really lie.
We are not skint just running to an agreed financial budget
You will know more about it than me Stevie. How does it work with players? Is the insurance an individual policy for each player? Is it paid by the club as say a proportion of the players salary?
And as you say long term injuries only makes sense. That would cover both o’kane and ideguchi?
I don't think we're skint, just operating within our means. Anyone who lived through the Ridsdale boom then bust will not want a repeat.
Right now the club is as balanced as I can remember.
We are probably only contributing towards Brown & Blackman's wages.
Insurance won’t cover all wages, there’ll most likely be a number of weeks (like an excess) where wages aren’t covered and then there will be s cap on amount payed out and a time limit on that payout.
comment by VOF - FORZA Leeds ..........! (U17124)
posted 40 minutes ago
I don't think we're skint, just operating within our means. Anyone who lived through the Ridsdale boom then bust will not want a repeat.
Right now the club is as balanced as I can remember.
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 10 hours, 55 minutes ago
No way he’s on more than both of them, you can throw in browns wages now as well.
I’ll wager we’re making another loss this season.
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you don't think we'll go up then?
Insurance covers wages? What!!!!!
It does for me, but not first 4 weeks of injury and capped at a per weekly rate.
How do you know what the policy Leeds Utd have taken out for these specific players Jonty?
Could easily cover all their wages if that's what the policy Leeds have paid for covers.
Not sure professional footballers policies are necessarily based on the cover you have?
comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 5 hours, 34 minutes ago
Insurance of this nature is very expensive. We provide career ending cover to professional sportsmen and the premiums are dependent on salaries etc..
Long term injuries will no doubt be covered but short term ones are unlikely to be picked up.
There's a budget clearly being worked to and AR has already said he would bankroll exceptional purchases outside of that such as Vydra (did he make the wrong choice.....?).
We are not skint. Absolute nonsense. We wouldn't be making our financial commitments otherwise. Scaremongering to suit bizarre agendas again. I do wonder where the loyalties of such people really lie.
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You made this point on another thread. I responded and you didn’t comment. Now you’re repeating it Stevie.
No-one on that thread had an agenda. The context was what do we have to spend in jan.
radz was on record in the summer as saying we sold viera to balance the books because we make a loss.
Your definition of skint appears to be going bust... rather than ‘not having much disposable income’. If I say to a mate, cab’t Come out tonight i’m Skint.. it means i’ve no spare cash... not that I haven’t paid my mortgage and some meat heads have just been round to repossess the car and sofa.
The context hasn’t been, are we in financial trouble? The context is, do we have money available to spend in January.
We have some first team regulars whose contract situation we might have expected to be resolved by now. We have a chairman who says we make a loss and need to sell players each year.
Those of us who bring this up, do so to temper the enthusiasm of those who are expecting us to spunk multi-millions in January.
We might get some loans, or mr 49er might have brought his chequebook last week. That would be great.
We have a great opportunity this season, who knows when it will happen again, so anything we can do to strengthen our position in January makes Sense to me from a business perspective.. if we can find the finance
As for ‘working to a budget’? everybody works to a budget. The phrase is std business speak for finances are tight. It’s what you say to sales people you want to get rid of or if you’re haggling for a deal.
If you’re a football club and you haven’t budgeted for strengthening in January, then you’re running a ‘tight ship’ another euphemism, for not having spare cash.
Just because someone disagrees with you Stevie, it doesn’t mean they have an agenda.
Wow that turned into a lengthy rant. Sorry everyone!
I'd have thought that when AR came in and he said he wouldn't be throwing his cash at the club he meant something like the club would pay for itself!..
So, the club has had x-amount off the money he said he wouldn't be giving, but, is functioning on a budget set out as a you could say a rescue budget!..
Unless you have someone with money they don't need the only way for any club doing things right is to sell before buying, if they don't than you'll have those no clues like Ridsdale..
Or even worst, the leaches we seemed to attract after him!..
Whichever, we're a hell of a sight better off now than we were after meltdown!..
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posted on 6/12/18
Great stat !
posted on 6/12/18
All going on Ideguchi's and O'Kane's wages now they're back.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 4 minutes ago
All going on Ideguchi's and O'Kane's wages now they're back.
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Have you gone to glass 60% empty now?
Offset by savings on Blackman loan (which may exceed the amounts of the other two?).
posted on 6/12/18
No way he’s on more than both of them, you can throw in browns wages now as well.
I’ll wager we’re making another loss this season.
posted on 6/12/18
O'Kane is on a packet.Never get him off the payroll. He is the next Luke Murphy being loaned out season after season
posted on 6/12/18
Injured players wages are covered by insurance not the club
posted on 7/12/18
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 4 minutes ago
Injured players wages are covered by insurance not the club
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Excellent point!
So the club is saving a huge amount, likely more than they were under the loans.
So potentially an even huger pot!
posted on 7/12/18
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 26 minutes ago
Injured players wages are covered by insurance not the club
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Makes me wonder if AR might be tripping our players up in the corridors and leaving banana skins in the showers to increase profitability given the insurance payouts?
posted on 7/12/18
I NEVER knew insurance payouts would cover players, assumed the club always picked up the bill.
posted on 7/12/18
comment by AZA (U5000)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
I NEVER knew insurance payouts would cover players, assumed the club always picked up the bill.
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Probably why Chelsea were happy to pick up all of Browns wages and medical bills whilst he was injured. Now he’s nearing full recovery I guess he will cost us.
posted on 7/12/18
Insurance of this nature is very expensive. We provide career ending cover to professional sportsmen and the premiums are dependent on salaries etc..
Long term injuries will no doubt be covered but short term ones are unlikely to be picked up.
There's a budget clearly being worked to and AR has already said he would bankroll exceptional purchases outside of that such as Vydra (did he make the wrong choice.....?).
We are not skint. Absolute nonsense. We wouldn't be making our financial commitments otherwise. Scaremongering to suit bizarre agendas again. I do wonder where the loyalties of such people really lie.
posted on 7/12/18
We are not skint just running to an agreed financial budget
posted on 7/12/18
You will know more about it than me Stevie. How does it work with players? Is the insurance an individual policy for each player? Is it paid by the club as say a proportion of the players salary?
And as you say long term injuries only makes sense. That would cover both o’kane and ideguchi?
posted on 7/12/18
I don't think we're skint, just operating within our means. Anyone who lived through the Ridsdale boom then bust will not want a repeat.
Right now the club is as balanced as I can remember.
posted on 7/12/18
We are probably only contributing towards Brown & Blackman's wages.
posted on 7/12/18
Insurance won’t cover all wages, there’ll most likely be a number of weeks (like an excess) where wages aren’t covered and then there will be s cap on amount payed out and a time limit on that payout.
posted on 7/12/18
comment by VOF - FORZA Leeds ..........! (U17124)
posted 40 minutes ago
I don't think we're skint, just operating within our means. Anyone who lived through the Ridsdale boom then bust will not want a repeat.
Right now the club is as balanced as I can remember.
posted on 7/12/18
agree
posted on 7/12/18
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 10 hours, 55 minutes ago
No way he’s on more than both of them, you can throw in browns wages now as well.
I’ll wager we’re making another loss this season.
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you don't think we'll go up then?
posted on 7/12/18
Insurance covers wages? What!!!!!
posted on 7/12/18
It does for me, but not first 4 weeks of injury and capped at a per weekly rate.
posted on 7/12/18
How do you know what the policy Leeds Utd have taken out for these specific players Jonty?
Could easily cover all their wages if that's what the policy Leeds have paid for covers.
Not sure professional footballers policies are necessarily based on the cover you have?
posted on 7/12/18
comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 5 hours, 34 minutes ago
Insurance of this nature is very expensive. We provide career ending cover to professional sportsmen and the premiums are dependent on salaries etc..
Long term injuries will no doubt be covered but short term ones are unlikely to be picked up.
There's a budget clearly being worked to and AR has already said he would bankroll exceptional purchases outside of that such as Vydra (did he make the wrong choice.....?).
We are not skint. Absolute nonsense. We wouldn't be making our financial commitments otherwise. Scaremongering to suit bizarre agendas again. I do wonder where the loyalties of such people really lie.
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You made this point on another thread. I responded and you didn’t comment. Now you’re repeating it Stevie.
No-one on that thread had an agenda. The context was what do we have to spend in jan.
radz was on record in the summer as saying we sold viera to balance the books because we make a loss.
Your definition of skint appears to be going bust... rather than ‘not having much disposable income’. If I say to a mate, cab’t Come out tonight i’m Skint.. it means i’ve no spare cash... not that I haven’t paid my mortgage and some meat heads have just been round to repossess the car and sofa.
The context hasn’t been, are we in financial trouble? The context is, do we have money available to spend in January.
We have some first team regulars whose contract situation we might have expected to be resolved by now. We have a chairman who says we make a loss and need to sell players each year.
Those of us who bring this up, do so to temper the enthusiasm of those who are expecting us to spunk multi-millions in January.
We might get some loans, or mr 49er might have brought his chequebook last week. That would be great.
We have a great opportunity this season, who knows when it will happen again, so anything we can do to strengthen our position in January makes Sense to me from a business perspective.. if we can find the finance
As for ‘working to a budget’? everybody works to a budget. The phrase is std business speak for finances are tight. It’s what you say to sales people you want to get rid of or if you’re haggling for a deal.
If you’re a football club and you haven’t budgeted for strengthening in January, then you’re running a ‘tight ship’ another euphemism, for not having spare cash.
Just because someone disagrees with you Stevie, it doesn’t mean they have an agenda.
posted on 7/12/18
Wow that turned into a lengthy rant. Sorry everyone!
posted on 7/12/18
I'd have thought that when AR came in and he said he wouldn't be throwing his cash at the club he meant something like the club would pay for itself!..
So, the club has had x-amount off the money he said he wouldn't be giving, but, is functioning on a budget set out as a you could say a rescue budget!..
Unless you have someone with money they don't need the only way for any club doing things right is to sell before buying, if they don't than you'll have those no clues like Ridsdale..
Or even worst, the leaches we seemed to attract after him!..
Whichever, we're a hell of a sight better off now than we were after meltdown!..
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