Too harsh on Mendy yet again. What about his goal line interception? That alone is worth more than a 5. Not saying he was brilliant yesterday but you consistently Mark him down unfairly - you’ve never been a fan!
Andy king on the otherhand......
Mendy allowed the Spurs player far to much for the first goal, he was just strolling around on the edge of our box for fun. He also gave the ball away cheaply on the half way line for their second although Chilwell particularly was strolling back when Ali was his man. That left Evans in no mans land will two players. Mendy also got himself booked early on so a 5 is fair maybe even a 4
comment by Man in the Long Black Coat (U2592)
posted 5 minutes ago
Mendy allowed the Spurs player far to much for the first goal, he was just strolling around on the edge of our box for fun. He also gave the ball away cheaply on the half way line for their second although Chilwell particularly was strolling back when Ali was his man. That left Evans in no mans land will two players. Mendy also got himself booked early on so a 5 is fair maybe even a 4
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He also made a goal line interception when everyone else had seemingly given up - running back from the halfway line to track all the way back. He made a number of crucial interceptions in that first half and as for the booking - he’s a defensive midfielder for Christ’s sake, hardly the first in that position to get a yellow.
I said it wasn’t his best game but he did a lot of work in that first half that went unnoticed. I agree - he should have been far tighter to Son and gave the ball away at times as well. He saved a goal and cost us one I suppose.
He wasn’t awful though
4 or 5 all day long. both goals his fault
I would mark Puel 2 mainly for playing 20 odd minutes with 3 wingers and no striker
comment by Man in the Long Black Coat (U2592)
posted 29 minutes ago
4 or 5 all day long. both goals his fault
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Not a chance. The first goal of course was him but after he made a wayward pass there was plenty of opportunity to prevent the second. Chilwell has culpability there for sure. We have a tendency to gloss over certain players mistakes however....
To be honest Mendy done well over the last few games and the second goal yesterday was more down to Chilwell than him. The first one though, lets just say if Kante was playing no goal
Absolutely agree - boy do we miss Kante
comment by Man in the Long Black Coat (U2592)
posted 1 minute ago
To be honest Mendy done well over the last few games and the second goal yesterday was more down to Chilwell than him. The first one though, lets just say if Kante was playing no goal
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A player not being as good as Kante really isn't much of an insult, setting the bar way too high there
From a Spurs fan's perspective, felt like you didn't really do much wrong yesterday, both sides were fairly solid, not watched you a lot this season But essentially playing 3 DMs felt odd although I suppose that did contribute to your solidity
Iheanacho was awful though
With Mendy, my point is /why/ a yellow card has a particularly big impact on his game. He’s all about covering ground, anticipating and getting his boot in. But since he has no pace - to the point of being not just ‘not quick’ but actively slow - he can’t risk getting close to his man any more because he’ll either have to let them go or risk getting sent off. And hence what we saw for Spurs’ first goal.
Other than that, I don’t see anything from him that isn’t average. It doesn’t matter about Iborra, Silva, King, a James, whatever. Longer term we need a new central midfielder. Mendy’s a backup for Ndidi and no more than that.
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 12 minutes ago
With Mendy, my point is /why/ a yellow card has a particularly big impact on his game. He’s all about covering ground, anticipating and getting his boot in. But since he has no pace - to the point of being not just ‘not quick’ but actively slow - he can’t risk getting close to his man any more because he’ll either have to let them go or risk getting sent off. And hence what we saw for Spurs’ first goal.
Other than that, I don’t see anything from him that isn’t average. It doesn’t matter about Iborra, Silva, King, a James, whatever. Longer term we need a new central midfielder. Mendy’s a backup for Ndidi and no more than that.
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Yes but you also said Knockeart would never make a premier league player so.........
Other than that, I don’t see anything from him that isn’t average. It doesn’t matter about Iborra, Silva, King, a James, whatever. Longer term we need a new central midfielder. Mendy’s a backup for Ndidi and no more than that
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I’m with you dunge. Totally with you.
Too many players such as Chilwell and Gray flatter to deceive, look exciting but no end product and too many players with similar attributes on the pitch at the same time.
Just seen Slowmani is doing well, so well Leicester and Fenerbahce are in dispute as Fenerbahce want to end his loan early and Leicester are refusing making them stick to the Season long loan.
I’m not making out Mendy is world class. He isn’t. But he’s done well this season, no doubt about that for me. He works hard, tries to press and makes important interceptions. He’s certainly been playing better than N’didi as of late.
Incidentally, I thought there was one significant thing about the team selection yesterday: Choudhury getting on the bench ahead of Silva. Now maybe I've missed something that Silva has a knock from training or something, but if not then that can't be good news in terms of his Leicester career. Surely he must be looking for a move in January.
Agree with what you've written Dunge. Morgan MoM for me too.
Puel tactics/subs against a weakened Spurs team were really poor.
The reaction of some muppets in the crowd to Ian getting subbed was a disgrace - do they think that's going to help him or the team?
nuneaton - There's definitely talk around of people seeing Iheanacho as not working hard enough. Whether they're right or wrong in that - and I wasn't at the Fulham match where a lot of the complaints seem to stem from - he now has a job on to win them back over. Essentially he's got to demonstrate to them that he's running himself into the ground, which isn't easy when the opposition for his position is Vardy and Okazaki.
The question is though whether they are asked to run themselves into the ground up front, we have done it for a considerable time now and it could be against the Managers' instructions, hold your line and be patient seems to be prevalent these days.
Vardy can't help himself, the same with Oki but it's no longer a team ethic.
"we haven't done it for a considerable time."
TB - I'm convinced they're not. As you say, some players can't help themselves, particularly Okazaki and Albrighton. But Puel doesn't value that and has never been particularly keen to play them.
Pressing is only ever implemented as plan F or later. I think Puel doesn't want his players running themselves out, which is particularly frustrating given the likes of Maddison and Iheanacho usually have to be hooked after an hour anyway.
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
nuneaton - There's definitely talk around of people seeing Iheanacho as not working hard enough. Whether they're right or wrong in that - and I wasn't at the Fulham match where a lot of the complaints seem to stem from - he now has a job on to win them back over. Essentially he's got to demonstrate to them that he's running himself into the ground, which isn't easy when the opposition for his position is Vardy and Okazaki.
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My view on Ian is that he isn't a £25M player. I can see why Man City sold him rather than loaned. He's still young so may improve but his ball control, which is usually poor, is not likely to. He doesn't work hard enough usually. Playing in the Puel style as a single striker up front with no service doesn't suit him at all.
Having said that, it's not my point, how does the morons giving him a hard time help him or the team?
Booing a player at 21 for not being Vardy will shatter his confidence. the sort of player the fans want is going to cost £50m plus in the January window and whos going to come to play second fiddle for that.
Bringing back the lad from WBA and he has a bad couple of games and we are in the same position.
nuneaton - Obviously it doesn't, and they shouldn't. I've never found frustration to be an excuse for not applying self-control.
But the fact remains that sections of our support have labelled him that most terrible of all words for a footballer: "Lazy". It's a word that, once applied, tends to stick. And that's going to be very difficult for him to turn around.
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posted on 9/12/18
Too harsh on Mendy yet again. What about his goal line interception? That alone is worth more than a 5. Not saying he was brilliant yesterday but you consistently Mark him down unfairly - you’ve never been a fan!
Andy king on the otherhand......
posted on 9/12/18
Mendy allowed the Spurs player far to much for the first goal, he was just strolling around on the edge of our box for fun. He also gave the ball away cheaply on the half way line for their second although Chilwell particularly was strolling back when Ali was his man. That left Evans in no mans land will two players. Mendy also got himself booked early on so a 5 is fair maybe even a 4
posted on 9/12/18
comment by Man in the Long Black Coat (U2592)
posted 5 minutes ago
Mendy allowed the Spurs player far to much for the first goal, he was just strolling around on the edge of our box for fun. He also gave the ball away cheaply on the half way line for their second although Chilwell particularly was strolling back when Ali was his man. That left Evans in no mans land will two players. Mendy also got himself booked early on so a 5 is fair maybe even a 4
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He also made a goal line interception when everyone else had seemingly given up - running back from the halfway line to track all the way back. He made a number of crucial interceptions in that first half and as for the booking - he’s a defensive midfielder for Christ’s sake, hardly the first in that position to get a yellow.
I said it wasn’t his best game but he did a lot of work in that first half that went unnoticed. I agree - he should have been far tighter to Son and gave the ball away at times as well. He saved a goal and cost us one I suppose.
He wasn’t awful though
posted on 9/12/18
4 or 5 all day long. both goals his fault
posted on 9/12/18
I would mark Puel 2 mainly for playing 20 odd minutes with 3 wingers and no striker
posted on 9/12/18
comment by Man in the Long Black Coat (U2592)
posted 29 minutes ago
4 or 5 all day long. both goals his fault
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Not a chance. The first goal of course was him but after he made a wayward pass there was plenty of opportunity to prevent the second. Chilwell has culpability there for sure. We have a tendency to gloss over certain players mistakes however....
posted on 9/12/18
To be honest Mendy done well over the last few games and the second goal yesterday was more down to Chilwell than him. The first one though, lets just say if Kante was playing no goal
posted on 9/12/18
Absolutely agree - boy do we miss Kante
posted on 9/12/18
comment by Man in the Long Black Coat (U2592)
posted 1 minute ago
To be honest Mendy done well over the last few games and the second goal yesterday was more down to Chilwell than him. The first one though, lets just say if Kante was playing no goal
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A player not being as good as Kante really isn't much of an insult, setting the bar way too high there
From a Spurs fan's perspective, felt like you didn't really do much wrong yesterday, both sides were fairly solid, not watched you a lot this season But essentially playing 3 DMs felt odd although I suppose that did contribute to your solidity
Iheanacho was awful though
posted on 9/12/18
With Mendy, my point is /why/ a yellow card has a particularly big impact on his game. He’s all about covering ground, anticipating and getting his boot in. But since he has no pace - to the point of being not just ‘not quick’ but actively slow - he can’t risk getting close to his man any more because he’ll either have to let them go or risk getting sent off. And hence what we saw for Spurs’ first goal.
Other than that, I don’t see anything from him that isn’t average. It doesn’t matter about Iborra, Silva, King, a James, whatever. Longer term we need a new central midfielder. Mendy’s a backup for Ndidi and no more than that.
posted on 9/12/18
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 12 minutes ago
With Mendy, my point is /why/ a yellow card has a particularly big impact on his game. He’s all about covering ground, anticipating and getting his boot in. But since he has no pace - to the point of being not just ‘not quick’ but actively slow - he can’t risk getting close to his man any more because he’ll either have to let them go or risk getting sent off. And hence what we saw for Spurs’ first goal.
Other than that, I don’t see anything from him that isn’t average. It doesn’t matter about Iborra, Silva, King, a James, whatever. Longer term we need a new central midfielder. Mendy’s a backup for Ndidi and no more than that.
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Yes but you also said Knockeart would never make a premier league player so.........
posted on 9/12/18
posted on 9/12/18
Other than that, I don’t see anything from him that isn’t average. It doesn’t matter about Iborra, Silva, King, a James, whatever. Longer term we need a new central midfielder. Mendy’s a backup for Ndidi and no more than that
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I’m with you dunge. Totally with you.
posted on 9/12/18
Too many players such as Chilwell and Gray flatter to deceive, look exciting but no end product and too many players with similar attributes on the pitch at the same time.
Just seen Slowmani is doing well, so well Leicester and Fenerbahce are in dispute as Fenerbahce want to end his loan early and Leicester are refusing making them stick to the Season long loan.
posted on 9/12/18
I’m not making out Mendy is world class. He isn’t. But he’s done well this season, no doubt about that for me. He works hard, tries to press and makes important interceptions. He’s certainly been playing better than N’didi as of late.
posted on 9/12/18
Incidentally, I thought there was one significant thing about the team selection yesterday: Choudhury getting on the bench ahead of Silva. Now maybe I've missed something that Silva has a knock from training or something, but if not then that can't be good news in terms of his Leicester career. Surely he must be looking for a move in January.
posted on 9/12/18
Agree with what you've written Dunge. Morgan MoM for me too.
Puel tactics/subs against a weakened Spurs team were really poor.
The reaction of some muppets in the crowd to Ian getting subbed was a disgrace - do they think that's going to help him or the team?
posted on 9/12/18
nuneaton - There's definitely talk around of people seeing Iheanacho as not working hard enough. Whether they're right or wrong in that - and I wasn't at the Fulham match where a lot of the complaints seem to stem from - he now has a job on to win them back over. Essentially he's got to demonstrate to them that he's running himself into the ground, which isn't easy when the opposition for his position is Vardy and Okazaki.
posted on 9/12/18
The question is though whether they are asked to run themselves into the ground up front, we have done it for a considerable time now and it could be against the Managers' instructions, hold your line and be patient seems to be prevalent these days.
Vardy can't help himself, the same with Oki but it's no longer a team ethic.
posted on 9/12/18
"we haven't done it for a considerable time."
posted on 9/12/18
TB - I'm convinced they're not. As you say, some players can't help themselves, particularly Okazaki and Albrighton. But Puel doesn't value that and has never been particularly keen to play them.
Pressing is only ever implemented as plan F or later. I think Puel doesn't want his players running themselves out, which is particularly frustrating given the likes of Maddison and Iheanacho usually have to be hooked after an hour anyway.
posted on 10/12/18
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
nuneaton - There's definitely talk around of people seeing Iheanacho as not working hard enough. Whether they're right or wrong in that - and I wasn't at the Fulham match where a lot of the complaints seem to stem from - he now has a job on to win them back over. Essentially he's got to demonstrate to them that he's running himself into the ground, which isn't easy when the opposition for his position is Vardy and Okazaki.
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My view on Ian is that he isn't a £25M player. I can see why Man City sold him rather than loaned. He's still young so may improve but his ball control, which is usually poor, is not likely to. He doesn't work hard enough usually. Playing in the Puel style as a single striker up front with no service doesn't suit him at all.
Having said that, it's not my point, how does the morons giving him a hard time help him or the team?
posted on 10/12/18
Booing a player at 21 for not being Vardy will shatter his confidence. the sort of player the fans want is going to cost £50m plus in the January window and whos going to come to play second fiddle for that.
Bringing back the lad from WBA and he has a bad couple of games and we are in the same position.
posted on 10/12/18
nuneaton - Obviously it doesn't, and they shouldn't. I've never found frustration to be an excuse for not applying self-control.
But the fact remains that sections of our support have labelled him that most terrible of all words for a footballer: "Lazy". It's a word that, once applied, tends to stick. And that's going to be very difficult for him to turn around.
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