Is it me or is time sort of standing still a bit?
I mean watch any match back from 2008 and it doesn't feel like 10 years ago but watching 1998 games back in 2008 and it felt like a different world.
Must be honest, the atmosphere at Elland Road isn’t quite what I thought it would be. As a kid, my Dad would tell me of the viscous and hostile atmospheres of the 90’s and the intensity of the European.
The only success I’ve ever seen Leeds have was in league one. The Millwall game, plus the Bristol Rovers games were absolutely electric. An atmosphere to rival anything in England.
Since then, there haven’t been many great atmospheres. Brighton when Wood scores in front of the south stand was probably my last game where I left thinking the atmosphere was awesome.
Away from home, best in the country. But at home it’s quite often disgruntled. Hopefully improves now that we’re challenging.
Was nine at the time and agree, you just thought we were deffo going up.
And atmosphere was unbelievable every game
But football changed. A lot more women at the game now, half don’t have a clue about football, most don’t sing and puts men off too.
And seating hasn’t helped either
comment by LIW - RAD = BATES WITH A SMILE (U8453)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
Was nine at the time and agree, you just thought we were deffo going up.
And atmosphere was unbelievable every game
But football changed. A lot more women at the game now, half don’t have a clue about football, most don’t sing and puts men off too.
And seating hasn’t helped either
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Don't think women at football has anything to do with it.
I don’t have 1989 to compare to but I thought they atmosphere was great at the Burton and Birmingham games last season (September 2017)!
Is football changing? atmosphere wise? - used to be very hostile environment at stadiums.
seating has to play a part maybe?
its not just at Leeds, most prem teams suffer this too. City fans being accused of being too quiet, and they are one hell of a team, Arsenal been accused of this in the past, spurs, Man United etc etc.
It’s a much more corporate & family orientated experience now. No longer just the working mans fame.
Game even ..... 😊😊
I do think some are remembering the atmospheres back then through rose tinted glasses as well .....
I do think some are remembering the atmospheres back then through rose tinted glasses as well
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Did you go in the promotion winning season ???
Sorry but not looking at 89 through rose tinted glasses at all.
My recollections are pretty straightforward, once Wilko got the juggernaut rolling there was no stopping us and the only worry after Christmas was whether us or Bassett's Blunts would finish top. Towards the end it was no contest as we thumped them 4-0.
Team on the whole was better than current one - midfield never got bossed at all.
Just nowhere near that feeling yet although best feeling for eons.
The atmosphere in the 80s was amazing, even when struggling
It’s a pale shadow these days.
The atmosphere in the Kop and South can still be good, but it will never match the atmospheres of years ago because the games changed.
If you want the lively atmosphere's then you need to go away, but a full house at ER still has its moments.
QPR at home was never going to be a lively crowd.
On another note, that's why I love Friday night games, because its under the lights and everyone has been for a few pints and up for the game.
Saturdays at 3pm always feel a bit flat
comment by LIW - RAD = BATES WITH A SMILE (U8453)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
I do think some are remembering the atmospheres back then through rose tinted glasses as well
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Did you go in the promotion winning season ???
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LIW, you would of been 9 years old though right? - think everything would of sounded louder, plus nothing else to compare it too
you're right though VOF - think the 'family stands' and seating have affected most grounds this way
Stupid kick off days/times, seating and people texting/phoning instead of watching has killed things.
Back in 89, you had newspapers, TV (not 500 channels), teletext and club call to try and find out what was going on, it meant match day and the programme was when you really got immersed in it whereas now its 24/7 access to everything.
Team was much stronger then and we weren't that many years away from the great side, very different times now.
Do people excessively text at the Leeds games you've been to Jonty? They must be lucky, because I can never get signal when I'm at Elland Road.
Lubs, you're talking to the man who:
knew the indepth ins and outs of the potential signing of Vydra, and knew exactly how inept our recruitment was, apparently there were some reports on this that he trusted, which we're still all looking forward to reading about.
Knew that MB was a massive risk, and has had that confirmed apparently by somebody at the club. kind of proving his point that Pulis would of been a better choice of manager back when we debated it in August.
Knew that Radz supports rape and murder by taking the team away during the pre-season.
of course people text all the time, J-dog has told you, somebody at the club confirmed it, again
comment by LIW - RAD = BATES WITH A SMILE (U8453)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
I do think some are remembering the atmospheres back then through rose tinted glasses as well
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Did you go in the promotion winning season ???
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Liw - I did indeed, not many I grant you - I was based over in Holland at the time, so only made 2 or 3 games from memory. If I was back in the UK on leave, then I always tried to time if for a match. Wolves and Brighton I think? It was the same for most seasons around that time and into the 90s.
My slightly glib response was more hinting/observing that as a 9/10 year old, things can seem more exciting than perhaps is or was the case. Others have replied and reinforced your point, so fair play i'll accept i'm guilty of a bit of making an inaccurate statement perhaps?
I don't recall the specific atmospheres at the time that much - it's been over 30 years and I've attended a whole load more matches, drunk a sh111t load of beer and lost far too many memory cells as a result, to be an authority on it.
Atmospheres though in general, have improved at football I'd argue and it's improved and heightened the popularity of the sport. It's not just with primarily white working class blokes anymore - but with fans from all corners of society. The odd outburst like at Chelsea at the weekend unfortunately, but in general a good atmosphere - if not maybe as vocal and vociferous as previous. Apologies if my earlier post came across as a dig, or a bit pious. It was a quick reply texted in haste, making what I thought was perhaps a valid observation.....
What was the last game you come away from and thought wow, that was a real good atmosphere.
Most recent in mind for me was when we beat Brighton under Monk, was rocking that night.
An atmosphere over a game can be difficult to generate, but you would think that goal would have really lifted the crowd going into half -time and there should have been a deafening roar as the players left the field.
There was one chap near me who was noticeable in his loudness. His main criticism was against the referee and at one point the bloke in front of him told him to calm because he'd jumped up and knocked him on the back of his head. He was supercharged up and if he could have put his efforts into supporting the side he would have been doing a great job. Amazingly despite the award of a throw-in seemingly a life and death decision he disappeared after around 40 minutes and didnt come back to his seat until the 60th and missed both goals Incredible!
The penalty award was cheered louder than normal. Just the fact we got one i think!
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 49 minutes ago
What was the last game you come away from and thought wow, that was a real good atmosphere.
Most recent in mind for me was when we beat Brighton under Monk, was rocking that night.
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Parts of the defeat against Millwall last season was excellent. Shame about the result, but thought the atmosphere as we pulled ourself back into it was excellent.
There have been a few decent atmospheres recently.
There have been a couple this season that I'd say the crowd have dragged us through by creating an atmosphere when losing or struggling.
The fan base has changed, back in the day it was mainly young men creating the atmosphere and other things of course.
Leeds 4 Hull 3!!! I was in the Lowfields for this one, far and away the best match I have ever been to. When we scored the winner, we were stamping our feet and singing for a full 15 minutes after the final whistle. February, 1990. Vinnie, Strach, Chappie, and the Fissssshhhhhh...where are you now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BSxd2gTIHA&t=8s
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posted on 9/12/18
Is it me or is time sort of standing still a bit?
I mean watch any match back from 2008 and it doesn't feel like 10 years ago but watching 1998 games back in 2008 and it felt like a different world.
posted on 9/12/18
Must be honest, the atmosphere at Elland Road isn’t quite what I thought it would be. As a kid, my Dad would tell me of the viscous and hostile atmospheres of the 90’s and the intensity of the European.
The only success I’ve ever seen Leeds have was in league one. The Millwall game, plus the Bristol Rovers games were absolutely electric. An atmosphere to rival anything in England.
Since then, there haven’t been many great atmospheres. Brighton when Wood scores in front of the south stand was probably my last game where I left thinking the atmosphere was awesome.
Away from home, best in the country. But at home it’s quite often disgruntled. Hopefully improves now that we’re challenging.
posted on 9/12/18
Was nine at the time and agree, you just thought we were deffo going up.
And atmosphere was unbelievable every game
But football changed. A lot more women at the game now, half don’t have a clue about football, most don’t sing and puts men off too.
And seating hasn’t helped either
posted on 10/12/18
comment by LIW - RAD = BATES WITH A SMILE (U8453)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
Was nine at the time and agree, you just thought we were deffo going up.
And atmosphere was unbelievable every game
But football changed. A lot more women at the game now, half don’t have a clue about football, most don’t sing and puts men off too.
And seating hasn’t helped either
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Don't think women at football has anything to do with it.
posted on 10/12/18
I don’t have 1989 to compare to but I thought they atmosphere was great at the Burton and Birmingham games last season (September 2017)!
posted on 10/12/18
Is football changing? atmosphere wise? - used to be very hostile environment at stadiums.
seating has to play a part maybe?
its not just at Leeds, most prem teams suffer this too. City fans being accused of being too quiet, and they are one hell of a team, Arsenal been accused of this in the past, spurs, Man United etc etc.
posted on 10/12/18
It’s a much more corporate & family orientated experience now. No longer just the working mans fame.
posted on 10/12/18
Game even ..... 😊😊
I do think some are remembering the atmospheres back then through rose tinted glasses as well .....
posted on 10/12/18
I do think some are remembering the atmospheres back then through rose tinted glasses as well
———————————
Did you go in the promotion winning season ???
posted on 10/12/18
Sorry but not looking at 89 through rose tinted glasses at all.
My recollections are pretty straightforward, once Wilko got the juggernaut rolling there was no stopping us and the only worry after Christmas was whether us or Bassett's Blunts would finish top. Towards the end it was no contest as we thumped them 4-0.
Team on the whole was better than current one - midfield never got bossed at all.
Just nowhere near that feeling yet although best feeling for eons.
posted on 10/12/18
The atmosphere in the 80s was amazing, even when struggling
It’s a pale shadow these days.
posted on 10/12/18
The atmosphere in the Kop and South can still be good, but it will never match the atmospheres of years ago because the games changed.
If you want the lively atmosphere's then you need to go away, but a full house at ER still has its moments.
QPR at home was never going to be a lively crowd.
posted on 10/12/18
On another note, that's why I love Friday night games, because its under the lights and everyone has been for a few pints and up for the game.
Saturdays at 3pm always feel a bit flat
posted on 10/12/18
comment by LIW - RAD = BATES WITH A SMILE (U8453)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
I do think some are remembering the atmospheres back then through rose tinted glasses as well
———————————
Did you go in the promotion winning season ???
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LIW, you would of been 9 years old though right? - think everything would of sounded louder, plus nothing else to compare it too
you're right though VOF - think the 'family stands' and seating have affected most grounds this way
posted on 10/12/18
Stupid kick off days/times, seating and people texting/phoning instead of watching has killed things.
Back in 89, you had newspapers, TV (not 500 channels), teletext and club call to try and find out what was going on, it meant match day and the programme was when you really got immersed in it whereas now its 24/7 access to everything.
Team was much stronger then and we weren't that many years away from the great side, very different times now.
posted on 10/12/18
Do people excessively text at the Leeds games you've been to Jonty? They must be lucky, because I can never get signal when I'm at Elland Road.
posted on 10/12/18
Lubs, you're talking to the man who:
knew the indepth ins and outs of the potential signing of Vydra, and knew exactly how inept our recruitment was, apparently there were some reports on this that he trusted, which we're still all looking forward to reading about.
Knew that MB was a massive risk, and has had that confirmed apparently by somebody at the club. kind of proving his point that Pulis would of been a better choice of manager back when we debated it in August.
Knew that Radz supports rape and murder by taking the team away during the pre-season.
of course people text all the time, J-dog has told you, somebody at the club confirmed it, again
posted on 10/12/18
comment by LIW - RAD = BATES WITH A SMILE (U8453)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
I do think some are remembering the atmospheres back then through rose tinted glasses as well
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Did you go in the promotion winning season ???
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Liw - I did indeed, not many I grant you - I was based over in Holland at the time, so only made 2 or 3 games from memory. If I was back in the UK on leave, then I always tried to time if for a match. Wolves and Brighton I think? It was the same for most seasons around that time and into the 90s.
My slightly glib response was more hinting/observing that as a 9/10 year old, things can seem more exciting than perhaps is or was the case. Others have replied and reinforced your point, so fair play i'll accept i'm guilty of a bit of making an inaccurate statement perhaps?
I don't recall the specific atmospheres at the time that much - it's been over 30 years and I've attended a whole load more matches, drunk a sh111t load of beer and lost far too many memory cells as a result, to be an authority on it.
Atmospheres though in general, have improved at football I'd argue and it's improved and heightened the popularity of the sport. It's not just with primarily white working class blokes anymore - but with fans from all corners of society. The odd outburst like at Chelsea at the weekend unfortunately, but in general a good atmosphere - if not maybe as vocal and vociferous as previous. Apologies if my earlier post came across as a dig, or a bit pious. It was a quick reply texted in haste, making what I thought was perhaps a valid observation.....
posted on 10/12/18
What was the last game you come away from and thought wow, that was a real good atmosphere.
Most recent in mind for me was when we beat Brighton under Monk, was rocking that night.
posted on 10/12/18
An atmosphere over a game can be difficult to generate, but you would think that goal would have really lifted the crowd going into half -time and there should have been a deafening roar as the players left the field.
There was one chap near me who was noticeable in his loudness. His main criticism was against the referee and at one point the bloke in front of him told him to calm because he'd jumped up and knocked him on the back of his head. He was supercharged up and if he could have put his efforts into supporting the side he would have been doing a great job. Amazingly despite the award of a throw-in seemingly a life and death decision he disappeared after around 40 minutes and didnt come back to his seat until the 60th and missed both goals Incredible!
The penalty award was cheered louder than normal. Just the fact we got one i think!
posted on 10/12/18
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 49 minutes ago
What was the last game you come away from and thought wow, that was a real good atmosphere.
Most recent in mind for me was when we beat Brighton under Monk, was rocking that night.
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Parts of the defeat against Millwall last season was excellent. Shame about the result, but thought the atmosphere as we pulled ourself back into it was excellent.
posted on 10/12/18
There have been a few decent atmospheres recently.
There have been a couple this season that I'd say the crowd have dragged us through by creating an atmosphere when losing or struggling.
posted on 10/12/18
The fan base has changed, back in the day it was mainly young men creating the atmosphere and other things of course.
posted on 11/12/18
Leeds 4 Hull 3!!! I was in the Lowfields for this one, far and away the best match I have ever been to. When we scored the winner, we were stamping our feet and singing for a full 15 minutes after the final whistle. February, 1990. Vinnie, Strach, Chappie, and the Fissssshhhhhh...where are you now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BSxd2gTIHA&t=8s
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