comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
Why do people keep saying that a no deal would be a disaster for the UK?
Many businesses that I know of have already planned for no deal.
Can you give me a specific example of the disaster you are thinking about in the case of a no deal?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where do you start?
How can logistics for example restructure their JiT operating models which they have used for decades in only three months? How long do you think it would take to build warehouses, expand ports, infrastructure etc?
The Port of Dover handles up to 10,000 vehicles each day but the FTA (freight transport association) stated only 1k export permits will be available. Do the maths. A sizeable chunk of UK exports will not be permitted to cross the channel.
https://fta.co.uk/compliance-and-advice?motid=1496
In the UKG’s own no deal preparedness notices advise businesses that they may have to move operations outside of the UK to maintain market access. Many have already. The UKG is actually recommending UK businesses their ‘best bet’ is to relocate outside of the UK in the event of a failure to agree withdrawal.
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-prepare-if-the-uk-leaves-the-eu-with-no-deal
Who do you believe. Every recognised impact study, or hedge funders, investment bankers etc who back the likes of the ERG who are exploiting Brexit for their own financial interests?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We already experienced "operation stack" of around 200 days even while in the EU.
Many components of factories come from outside the EU yet JIT still goes on. It's just a question of rearranging "lead time".
The Mayor of Calais has come out to say that No Deal would not affect BAU.
We already import from across the world on WTO rules and it takes on average, 6 seconds for goods to pass through our ports.
Somehow, you make it sound like the UK is some kind of back water country which is unable to cope with the challenges posed by Brexit.
No doubt there may be some short term disruption. But it will not be the disaster that you are making it out to be.
Also, Esther Mcveigh recently stated that the govt has signed a number of bilateral agreements with the EU in the case of No Deal to minimise disruption. but the govt has kept this from the public for whatever reason.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
Why do people keep saying that a no deal would be a disaster for the UK?
Many businesses that I know of have already planned for no deal.
Can you give me a specific example of the disaster you are thinking about in the case of a no deal?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where do you start?
How can logistics for example restructure their JiT operating models which they have used for decades in only three months? How long do you think it would take to build warehouses, expand ports, infrastructure etc?
The Port of Dover handles up to 10,000 vehicles each day but the FTA (freight transport association) stated only 1k export permits will be available. Do the maths. A sizeable chunk of UK exports will not be permitted to cross the channel.
https://fta.co.uk/compliance-and-advice?motid=1496
In the UKG’s own no deal preparedness notices advise businesses that they may have to move operations outside of the UK to maintain market access. Many have already. The UKG is actually recommending UK businesses their ‘best bet’ is to relocate outside of the UK in the event of a failure to agree withdrawal.
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-prepare-if-the-uk-leaves-the-eu-with-no-deal
Who do you believe. Every recognised impact study, or hedge funders, investment bankers etc who back the likes of the ERG who are exploiting Brexit for their own financial interests?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We already experienced "operation stack" of around 200 days even while in the EU.
Many components of factories come from outside the EU yet JIT still goes on. It's just a question of rearranging "lead time".
The Mayor of Calais has come out to say that No Deal would not affect BAU.
We already import from across the world on WTO rules and it takes on average, 6 seconds for goods to pass through our ports.
Somehow, you make it sound like the UK is some kind of back water country which is unable to cope with the challenges posed by Brexit.
No doubt there may be some short term disruption. But it will not be the disaster that you are making it out to be.
Also, Esther Mcveigh recently stated that the govt has signed a number of bilateral agreements with the EU in the case of No Deal to minimise disruption. but the govt has kept this from the public for whatever reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not being funny but this flies in the face of all the evidence, should you care to read it.
Countries do not tend to trade on their WTO commitments if possible (no such thing as WTO rules) as they are the baseline of how to trade.
The UK has over 750 of preferential agreements, (mutual recognition/economic partnership agreements for example) across the globe as well as circa 70 global FTAs to ensure goods (especially manufacturing) and commodities can be imported/exported as quick as possible.
There's not a single developed economy on the planet that trade on it's WTO obligations.
The EU (and by default the UK) also agreed an Everything but Arms (EBA) treaty in 2001. All imports into the EU from the 45 most underdeveloped countries are therefore duty / quota free.
Going forward I'd urge you to read some of the UKG's own notices to businesses and stakeholders for further clarification.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
Are you suggesting then that we should remain in the EU in spite of the referendum result?
Are you suggesting that we keep paying £10bn+ net every year to the EU when our public services are being cut to shreds due to lack of funds?
No doubt there will be disruption but we are more than capable to overcome them.
And like I mentioned earlier, most businesses are already one step ahead planning for a no deal scenario.
The UK EU budgetary contribution (MFF) equates to less than 1% of total annual government spending.
Check the back of your tax return if you don’t believe me.
The SM generates between £62/78 billion to the economy each year not to mention the other preferential global trading arrangements we have thanks to the common commercial policy.
For info:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/articles/theukcontributiontotheeubudget/2017-10-31
Sign in if you want to comment
Away from football for a bit, let`s talk
Page 4 of 4
posted on 16/1/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
Why do people keep saying that a no deal would be a disaster for the UK?
Many businesses that I know of have already planned for no deal.
Can you give me a specific example of the disaster you are thinking about in the case of a no deal?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where do you start?
How can logistics for example restructure their JiT operating models which they have used for decades in only three months? How long do you think it would take to build warehouses, expand ports, infrastructure etc?
The Port of Dover handles up to 10,000 vehicles each day but the FTA (freight transport association) stated only 1k export permits will be available. Do the maths. A sizeable chunk of UK exports will not be permitted to cross the channel.
https://fta.co.uk/compliance-and-advice?motid=1496
In the UKG’s own no deal preparedness notices advise businesses that they may have to move operations outside of the UK to maintain market access. Many have already. The UKG is actually recommending UK businesses their ‘best bet’ is to relocate outside of the UK in the event of a failure to agree withdrawal.
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-prepare-if-the-uk-leaves-the-eu-with-no-deal
Who do you believe. Every recognised impact study, or hedge funders, investment bankers etc who back the likes of the ERG who are exploiting Brexit for their own financial interests?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We already experienced "operation stack" of around 200 days even while in the EU.
Many components of factories come from outside the EU yet JIT still goes on. It's just a question of rearranging "lead time".
The Mayor of Calais has come out to say that No Deal would not affect BAU.
We already import from across the world on WTO rules and it takes on average, 6 seconds for goods to pass through our ports.
Somehow, you make it sound like the UK is some kind of back water country which is unable to cope with the challenges posed by Brexit.
No doubt there may be some short term disruption. But it will not be the disaster that you are making it out to be.
Also, Esther Mcveigh recently stated that the govt has signed a number of bilateral agreements with the EU in the case of No Deal to minimise disruption. but the govt has kept this from the public for whatever reason.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
Why do people keep saying that a no deal would be a disaster for the UK?
Many businesses that I know of have already planned for no deal.
Can you give me a specific example of the disaster you are thinking about in the case of a no deal?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where do you start?
How can logistics for example restructure their JiT operating models which they have used for decades in only three months? How long do you think it would take to build warehouses, expand ports, infrastructure etc?
The Port of Dover handles up to 10,000 vehicles each day but the FTA (freight transport association) stated only 1k export permits will be available. Do the maths. A sizeable chunk of UK exports will not be permitted to cross the channel.
https://fta.co.uk/compliance-and-advice?motid=1496
In the UKG’s own no deal preparedness notices advise businesses that they may have to move operations outside of the UK to maintain market access. Many have already. The UKG is actually recommending UK businesses their ‘best bet’ is to relocate outside of the UK in the event of a failure to agree withdrawal.
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-prepare-if-the-uk-leaves-the-eu-with-no-deal
Who do you believe. Every recognised impact study, or hedge funders, investment bankers etc who back the likes of the ERG who are exploiting Brexit for their own financial interests?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We already experienced "operation stack" of around 200 days even while in the EU.
Many components of factories come from outside the EU yet JIT still goes on. It's just a question of rearranging "lead time".
The Mayor of Calais has come out to say that No Deal would not affect BAU.
We already import from across the world on WTO rules and it takes on average, 6 seconds for goods to pass through our ports.
Somehow, you make it sound like the UK is some kind of back water country which is unable to cope with the challenges posed by Brexit.
No doubt there may be some short term disruption. But it will not be the disaster that you are making it out to be.
Also, Esther Mcveigh recently stated that the govt has signed a number of bilateral agreements with the EU in the case of No Deal to minimise disruption. but the govt has kept this from the public for whatever reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not being funny but this flies in the face of all the evidence, should you care to read it.
Countries do not tend to trade on their WTO commitments if possible (no such thing as WTO rules) as they are the baseline of how to trade.
The UK has over 750 of preferential agreements, (mutual recognition/economic partnership agreements for example) across the globe as well as circa 70 global FTAs to ensure goods (especially manufacturing) and commodities can be imported/exported as quick as possible.
There's not a single developed economy on the planet that trade on it's WTO obligations.
The EU (and by default the UK) also agreed an Everything but Arms (EBA) treaty in 2001. All imports into the EU from the 45 most underdeveloped countries are therefore duty / quota free.
Going forward I'd urge you to read some of the UKG's own notices to businesses and stakeholders for further clarification.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
Are you suggesting then that we should remain in the EU in spite of the referendum result?
Are you suggesting that we keep paying £10bn+ net every year to the EU when our public services are being cut to shreds due to lack of funds?
No doubt there will be disruption but we are more than capable to overcome them.
And like I mentioned earlier, most businesses are already one step ahead planning for a no deal scenario.
posted on 16/1/19
The UK EU budgetary contribution (MFF) equates to less than 1% of total annual government spending.
Check the back of your tax return if you don’t believe me.
The SM generates between £62/78 billion to the economy each year not to mention the other preferential global trading arrangements we have thanks to the common commercial policy.
For info:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/articles/theukcontributiontotheeubudget/2017-10-31
Page 4 of 4