43, completely understand that, and that's why I say he's rattled and defocussed. Its' done now and hope we can just get on with next match and the goalie transfer that was supposed to be officially in just a couple of hours......24 hours ago!
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How anyone can say what he has done is wrong is beyond me.
Football is all about trying to get the upper hand no matter what. Take appealing for a throw in when it is abviosly not yours. Football is & has always been full of deception. Players getting touched & falling over like they have been shot. MB is just trying it on, nothing to see here. What about all the managers taking bungs, we all know about & don't know about.
All MB has done is seek yo gain an advantage by being smarter than everyone else.
FOOK YOU ALL !!!
Mans a genius, got first run on the league told them what's he's done but also said I've done nothing illegal, think it's hard for them to do anything apart from bringing in some new rules,
Anyone interested they are talking about it on talk sport 2
The man is addicted to football, is that a crime?
Circle the wagons
Another day he'd walk and he might as well be judas.
Fickle as feck.
comment by Igør Rampard (U1993)
posted 2 minutes ago
Circle the wagons
Another day he'd walk and he might as well be judas.
Fickle as feck.
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Nah he knows he has the making of this club as long as he can do it his way. Take that away & he is nothing
If Lampard has any self respect, he'll be packing his stuff up and returning any money Derby gave him. Schooled.
Jonty, fair enough, it comes down to perception of right and wrong. If I visit, say, a church in a foreign country and I go in without a shirt on and then I find out that this causes offence to the locals, then I could simply say I didn't know, it's not illegal and fook you all. But I was brought up to be respectful so I would say I'm really sorry, I won't do it again, and I would feel a bit foolish for having done it in the first place. Obviously you can take a view that there is no such thing as right and wrong, simply what you can get away with and what you can't. Of course professional football is full of cheats of different sorts, but so is life. Most of us have contempt for individuals who have no sense of morality at all. We all have an idea of where we draw the line on what is or isn't acceptable. No doubt Bielsa isn't any worse in most respects than any other, maybe better, but he just got this one wrong.
A football professor. I cannot recollect another manager in modern times that has walked into a club with pretty much the same set of players and revolutionised their approach to the game and made them into winners like him.
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 11 minutes ago
If Lampard has any self respect, he'll be packing his stuff up and returning any money Derby gave him. Schooled.
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Oh shut up you dunce, thought you were banned.
comment by Igør Rampard (U1993)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 11 minutes ago
If Lampard has any self respect, he'll be packing his stuff up and returning any money Derby gave him. Schooled.
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Oh shut up you dunce, thought you were banned.
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On Villa Boas's comments Fat Frank should be shutting himself away & asking himself should I be giving these medals back
MUPPET !!!
Apparently "The EFL has since written to Leeds, requesting their observations and suggesting the action "appears to contravene the club's charter" which all 72 EFL clubs agreed to in the summer of 2018."
I can't find the LUFC Club Charter nor can I find a standard EFL club charter all clubs have signed up to.
Has anyone found one?
Vidal, Bielsa has been incredible with his approach. For example, he will not criticise a ref, he says they should be respected as they are our footballing colleagues, such is his integrity to his own principles and standards.
Now if you are that convinced about your standards, then its really hard to apologise when you don't think you've done wrong (and this is why I think there is an issue with the club apologising for Bielsa's behaviour when you can see he is still defending himself).
I feel he has apologised in his way, saying he's sorry if Lampard felt bad.
I have a strong sense of right and wrong and I'm the first to pick up on our managers or owners if I feel they're doing the wrong thing, I personally don't think Bielsa has in this case, but believe me if I had I'd be saying it!
Long, I looked for this 'Club charter' yesterday, couldn't find a thing.
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 9 minutes ago
Jonty, fair enough, it comes down to perception of right and wrong. If I visit, say, a church in a foreign country and I go in without a shirt on and then I find out that this causes offence to the locals, then I could simply say I didn't know, it's not illegal and fook you all. But I was brought up to be respectful so I would say I'm really sorry, I won't do it again, and I would feel a bit foolish for having done it in the first place. Obviously you can take a view that there is no such thing as right and wrong, simply what you can get away with and what you can't. Of course professional football is full of cheats of different sorts, but so is life. Most of us have contempt for individuals who have no sense of morality at all. We all have an idea of where we draw the line on what is or isn't acceptable. No doubt Bielsa isn't any worse in most respects than any other, maybe better, but he just got this one wrong.
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Spot on. I’d rather he hadn’t done it. But I like how he’s fronted out.
I think what most Leeds fans are p*ssed with is the double standard, faux moral outrage we’ve seen from a bunch of self publicising prix. That just makes us want to get behind the guy more. If everyone had just said... ‘yeh it’s a bit sneaky but not against the rules... loads have people have done it’ we’d probably all agree.
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 11 minutes ago
If Lampard has any self respect, he'll be packing his stuff up and returning any money Derby gave him. Schooled.
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Oh shut up you dunce, thought you were banned.
__________
That was a user called bowyer...
I remember when Warnock came
And most thought just what we need
But you never really know what a manager is like until they come.
And he was garbage and never right got the club
When Biesla came, all we heard is how he takes no garbage, moody, if he doesn’t get his own way he leave
He’s the exact opposite, very fair, looks after the players, doesn’t moan about refs, doesn’t like diving and doesn’t blame anyone but himself
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 9 minutes ago
Jonty, fair enough, it comes down to perception of right and wrong. If I visit, say, a church in a foreign country and I go in without a shirt on and then I find out that this causes offence to the locals, then I could simply say I didn't know, it's not illegal and fook you all. But I was brought up to be respectful so I would say I'm really sorry, I won't do it again, and I would feel a bit foolish for having done it in the first place. Obviously you can take a view that there is no such thing as right and wrong, simply what you can get away with and what you can't. Of course professional football is full of cheats of different sorts, but so is life. Most of us have contempt for individuals who have no sense of morality at all. We all have an idea of where we draw the line on what is or isn't acceptable. No doubt Bielsa isn't any worse in most respects than any other, maybe better, but he just got this one wrong.
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Spot on. I’d rather he hadn’t done it. But I like how he’s fronted out.
I think what most Leeds fans are p*ssed with is the double standard, faux moral outrage we’ve seen from a bunch of self publicising prix. That just makes us want to get behind the guy more. If everyone had just said... ‘yeh it’s a bit sneaky but not against the rules... loads have people have done it’ we’d probably all agree.
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BOLLOX and you all know it
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 15 minutes ago
If Lampard has any self respect, he'll be packing his stuff up and returning any money Derby gave him. Schooled.
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He’s probably already forgotten he’s been schooled, like he forgot Chelsea spying when he played there, or dodging stadium bans in champions league games... or forgetting to think of your kids when playing away from home. There’s a lot you can forget when you’re so focused on lecturing people on morality.
Bielsa has accepted it was wrong because of how it is perceived by others, so he accepts it. Don't know why that remains anything to discuss
As I said yesterday, as long as he can sleep at night.
We have all done things that others see as close to the bone, but who's bone is it.
MB is GENIUS
I may have had a few
Must be a nose bleed lads. 300 odd comments on a Tuesday.
Take the rest of it off.
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posted on 16/1/19
43, completely understand that, and that's why I say he's rattled and defocussed. Its' done now and hope we can just get on with next match and the goalie transfer that was supposed to be officially in just a couple of hours......24 hours ago!
posted on 16/1/19
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posted on 16/1/19
How anyone can say what he has done is wrong is beyond me.
Football is all about trying to get the upper hand no matter what. Take appealing for a throw in when it is abviosly not yours. Football is & has always been full of deception. Players getting touched & falling over like they have been shot. MB is just trying it on, nothing to see here. What about all the managers taking bungs, we all know about & don't know about.
All MB has done is seek yo gain an advantage by being smarter than everyone else.
FOOK YOU ALL !!!
posted on 16/1/19
Mans a genius, got first run on the league told them what's he's done but also said I've done nothing illegal, think it's hard for them to do anything apart from bringing in some new rules,
posted on 16/1/19
Anyone interested they are talking about it on talk sport 2
posted on 16/1/19
The man is addicted to football, is that a crime?
posted on 16/1/19
Circle the wagons
Another day he'd walk and he might as well be judas.
Fickle as feck.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Igør Rampard (U1993)
posted 2 minutes ago
Circle the wagons
Another day he'd walk and he might as well be judas.
Fickle as feck.
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Nah he knows he has the making of this club as long as he can do it his way. Take that away & he is nothing
posted on 16/1/19
If Lampard has any self respect, he'll be packing his stuff up and returning any money Derby gave him. Schooled.
posted on 16/1/19
Jonty, fair enough, it comes down to perception of right and wrong. If I visit, say, a church in a foreign country and I go in without a shirt on and then I find out that this causes offence to the locals, then I could simply say I didn't know, it's not illegal and fook you all. But I was brought up to be respectful so I would say I'm really sorry, I won't do it again, and I would feel a bit foolish for having done it in the first place. Obviously you can take a view that there is no such thing as right and wrong, simply what you can get away with and what you can't. Of course professional football is full of cheats of different sorts, but so is life. Most of us have contempt for individuals who have no sense of morality at all. We all have an idea of where we draw the line on what is or isn't acceptable. No doubt Bielsa isn't any worse in most respects than any other, maybe better, but he just got this one wrong.
posted on 16/1/19
A football professor. I cannot recollect another manager in modern times that has walked into a club with pretty much the same set of players and revolutionised their approach to the game and made them into winners like him.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 11 minutes ago
If Lampard has any self respect, he'll be packing his stuff up and returning any money Derby gave him. Schooled.
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Oh shut up you dunce, thought you were banned.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Igør Rampard (U1993)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 11 minutes ago
If Lampard has any self respect, he'll be packing his stuff up and returning any money Derby gave him. Schooled.
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Oh shut up you dunce, thought you were banned.
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On Villa Boas's comments Fat Frank should be shutting himself away & asking himself should I be giving these medals back
MUPPET !!!
posted on 16/1/19
Apparently "The EFL has since written to Leeds, requesting their observations and suggesting the action "appears to contravene the club's charter" which all 72 EFL clubs agreed to in the summer of 2018."
I can't find the LUFC Club Charter nor can I find a standard EFL club charter all clubs have signed up to.
Has anyone found one?
posted on 16/1/19
Vidal, Bielsa has been incredible with his approach. For example, he will not criticise a ref, he says they should be respected as they are our footballing colleagues, such is his integrity to his own principles and standards.
Now if you are that convinced about your standards, then its really hard to apologise when you don't think you've done wrong (and this is why I think there is an issue with the club apologising for Bielsa's behaviour when you can see he is still defending himself).
I feel he has apologised in his way, saying he's sorry if Lampard felt bad.
I have a strong sense of right and wrong and I'm the first to pick up on our managers or owners if I feel they're doing the wrong thing, I personally don't think Bielsa has in this case, but believe me if I had I'd be saying it!
posted on 16/1/19
Long, I looked for this 'Club charter' yesterday, couldn't find a thing.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 9 minutes ago
Jonty, fair enough, it comes down to perception of right and wrong. If I visit, say, a church in a foreign country and I go in without a shirt on and then I find out that this causes offence to the locals, then I could simply say I didn't know, it's not illegal and fook you all. But I was brought up to be respectful so I would say I'm really sorry, I won't do it again, and I would feel a bit foolish for having done it in the first place. Obviously you can take a view that there is no such thing as right and wrong, simply what you can get away with and what you can't. Of course professional football is full of cheats of different sorts, but so is life. Most of us have contempt for individuals who have no sense of morality at all. We all have an idea of where we draw the line on what is or isn't acceptable. No doubt Bielsa isn't any worse in most respects than any other, maybe better, but he just got this one wrong.
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Spot on. I’d rather he hadn’t done it. But I like how he’s fronted out.
I think what most Leeds fans are p*ssed with is the double standard, faux moral outrage we’ve seen from a bunch of self publicising prix. That just makes us want to get behind the guy more. If everyone had just said... ‘yeh it’s a bit sneaky but not against the rules... loads have people have done it’ we’d probably all agree.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 11 minutes ago
If Lampard has any self respect, he'll be packing his stuff up and returning any money Derby gave him. Schooled.
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Oh shut up you dunce, thought you were banned.
__________
That was a user called bowyer...
posted on 16/1/19
I remember when Warnock came
And most thought just what we need
But you never really know what a manager is like until they come.
And he was garbage and never right got the club
When Biesla came, all we heard is how he takes no garbage, moody, if he doesn’t get his own way he leave
He’s the exact opposite, very fair, looks after the players, doesn’t moan about refs, doesn’t like diving and doesn’t blame anyone but himself
posted on 16/1/19
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 9 minutes ago
Jonty, fair enough, it comes down to perception of right and wrong. If I visit, say, a church in a foreign country and I go in without a shirt on and then I find out that this causes offence to the locals, then I could simply say I didn't know, it's not illegal and fook you all. But I was brought up to be respectful so I would say I'm really sorry, I won't do it again, and I would feel a bit foolish for having done it in the first place. Obviously you can take a view that there is no such thing as right and wrong, simply what you can get away with and what you can't. Of course professional football is full of cheats of different sorts, but so is life. Most of us have contempt for individuals who have no sense of morality at all. We all have an idea of where we draw the line on what is or isn't acceptable. No doubt Bielsa isn't any worse in most respects than any other, maybe better, but he just got this one wrong.
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Spot on. I’d rather he hadn’t done it. But I like how he’s fronted out.
I think what most Leeds fans are p*ssed with is the double standard, faux moral outrage we’ve seen from a bunch of self publicising prix. That just makes us want to get behind the guy more. If everyone had just said... ‘yeh it’s a bit sneaky but not against the rules... loads have people have done it’ we’d probably all agree.
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BOLLOX and you all know it
posted on 16/1/19
Why should he have to?
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 15 minutes ago
If Lampard has any self respect, he'll be packing his stuff up and returning any money Derby gave him. Schooled.
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He’s probably already forgotten he’s been schooled, like he forgot Chelsea spying when he played there, or dodging stadium bans in champions league games... or forgetting to think of your kids when playing away from home. There’s a lot you can forget when you’re so focused on lecturing people on morality.
posted on 16/1/19
Bielsa has accepted it was wrong because of how it is perceived by others, so he accepts it. Don't know why that remains anything to discuss
posted on 16/1/19
As I said yesterday, as long as he can sleep at night.
We have all done things that others see as close to the bone, but who's bone is it.
MB is GENIUS
I may have had a few
posted on 16/1/19
Must be a nose bleed lads. 300 odd comments on a Tuesday.
Take the rest of it off.
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