Lampard has been made to look very silly in all this, I would imagine he hopes this disappear quicker than Bielsa does to be fair
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would he be giving your missus the hard press?
Not as bad as Sir Alex tapping up players left right and centre and his players getting in the faces of referees and let's not forget fergie time.
comment by Macca: Emily Bishop's love child (U8194)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not as bad as Sir Alex tapping up players left right and centre and his players getting in the faces of referees and let's not forget fergie time.
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........and not to mention him hiring a helicopter to hover over City's training sesion
fooking hypocrite
Lampard has come out this episode very badly, absolutely no need for lying.
He's a celebrity manager. A total amateur manager who Derby will fire at the end of the season. They can and should do better than hire that clueless numpty, especially given the talented squad they have.!
Can you, peak white, post proof of SAF spying? Can you also post Hippo condoning it?
As it stands, Hippo isn't being a hypocrite over this (I can't say for sure as I have no idea if he has condoned in in one instant and condemned it here).
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 29 minutes ago
Can you, peak white, post proof of SAF spying? Can you also post Hippo condoning it?
As it stands, Hippo isn't being a hypocrite over this (I can't say for sure as I have no idea if he has condoned in in one instant and condemned it here).
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It's been common knowledge for years. Do you honestly think I'm going to be ar$ed trawling through the internet on your behalf? Do it thissen!
If I found Bielsa in bed with my wife I'd have to seriously question why I don't remember getting married.
On the subject of Hippo being a hypocrite, that's in the context of him accusing Leeds of cheating yet, as pointed out by Macca, ManU also cheat in different ways themselves. Spying isn't cheating or illegal anyway. It might be unsporting and some are better at it than others, but it's widespread in sport in general eg AVB for Mourinho at Chelsea, F1 etc.
comment by Peakwhite (U7815)
posted 2 minutes ago
On the subject of Hippo being a hypocrite, that's in the context of him accusing Leeds of cheating yet, as pointed out by Macca, ManU also cheat in different ways themselves. Spying isn't cheating or illegal anyway. It might be unsporting and some are better at it than others, but it's widespread in sport in general eg AVB for Mourinho at Chelsea, F1 etc.
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I've seen Hippo talking about his fairly regularly and my conclusion has been that they are not to be taken seriously.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/10-times-teams-spied-on-their-opposition-leeds-utd-chelsea-man-utd/
Have a read of this, China.
yeah hippo can be filed under WUM
What are you exactly referring to as being common knowledge? Spying on opposition or SAF used a helicopter to spy on City? The former may be the latter I doubt it to be.
Two of Macca's point are pretty useless (getting in the ref's face when it was being done, rules came in to stamp it out, and Fergie time is a myth as stats proved since Liverpool had got more added minutes, and penalties, in the PL).
On Hippo, has he condone cheating by United? He only becomes a hypocrite if he condones it in the instance of United and condemns in when others, such as Leeds, do it.
I read that, Peakwhite. It's not really conclusive regarding cheating (regarding SAF). In fact, two others are based on nothing but one man's paranoia and another guy not getting along with the person he accuses of cheating.
Poor article to use as proof.
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 3 minutes ago
I read that, Peakwhite. It's not really conclusive regarding cheating (regarding SAF). In fact, two others are based on nothing but one man's paranoia and another guy not getting along with the person he accuses of cheating.
Poor article to use as proof.
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Whatever. The helicopter did circle over the City training ground twice but fir what reason? Who cares!
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 11 minutes ago
What are you exactly referring to as being common knowledge? Spying on opposition or SAF used a helicopter to spy on City? The former may be the latter I doubt it to be.
Two of Macca's point are pretty useless (getting in the ref's face when it was being done, rules came in to stamp it out, and Fergie time is a myth as stats proved since Liverpool had got more added minutes, and penalties, in the PL).
On Hippo, has he condone cheating by United? He only becomes a hypocrite if he condones it in the instance of United and condemns in when others, such as Leeds, do it.
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Fair comment.
The one's condemning Bielsa are mostly saying he has acted immorally and not in the spirit of the game. Martin Keone one of Bielsa's critics I remember famously against Man Utd was pretty thug like towards Van Nistelroy and most of his career like many others criticising Bielsa used gamesmanship to their advantage which is definitely not in the spirit of the game.
"In 2009, The Mirror reported that Sir Alex Ferguson’s helicopter had been spotted flying over Manchester City’s training ground ahead of a Manchester derby.
The story suggested “City officials wondered if they were the victims of a spying mission, with their arch-rivals wanting to know any last-minute secrets”."
That's the quote from the article you linked. Nothing about it flying around twice as you mentioned. Hence a poor article to link to as proof.
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 2 minutes ago
"In 2009, The Mirror reported that Sir Alex Ferguson’s helicopter had been spotted flying over Manchester City’s training ground ahead of a Manchester derby.
The story suggested “City officials wondered if they were the victims of a spying mission, with their arch-rivals wanting to know any last-minute secrets”."
That's the quote from the article you linked. Nothing about it flying around twice as you mentioned. Hence a poor article to link to as proof.
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Read the FULL article, which clearly states the helicopter circled the training ground twice.
I'm not going to debate this topic any longer. Quite frrankly, I have more important issues to deal with today, but nice chatting to you and exchanging views.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sir-alex-fergusons-helicopter-spotted-3372954Here's the actual full article:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sir-alex-fergusons-helicopter-spotted-3372954
Yeah Macca, that very intimidating action by Keone on van Nistelroy was what I thought immediately after Keone
spoke...not that he did anything criminal, a bit like Bielsa...all a storm in a FA cup!
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posted on 17/1/19
Lampard has been made to look very silly in all this, I would imagine he hopes this disappear quicker than Bielsa does to be fair
posted on 17/1/19
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posted on 17/1/19
would he be giving your missus the hard press?
posted on 17/1/19
Not as bad as Sir Alex tapping up players left right and centre and his players getting in the faces of referees and let's not forget fergie time.
posted on 17/1/19
comment by Macca: Emily Bishop's love child (U8194)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not as bad as Sir Alex tapping up players left right and centre and his players getting in the faces of referees and let's not forget fergie time.
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........and not to mention him hiring a helicopter to hover over City's training sesion
fooking hypocrite
posted on 17/1/19
Lampard has come out this episode very badly, absolutely no need for lying.
posted on 17/1/19
He's a celebrity manager. A total amateur manager who Derby will fire at the end of the season. They can and should do better than hire that clueless numpty, especially given the talented squad they have.!
posted on 17/1/19
Peak
posted on 17/1/19
Can you, peak white, post proof of SAF spying? Can you also post Hippo condoning it?
As it stands, Hippo isn't being a hypocrite over this (I can't say for sure as I have no idea if he has condoned in in one instant and condemned it here).
posted on 17/1/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 29 minutes ago
Can you, peak white, post proof of SAF spying? Can you also post Hippo condoning it?
As it stands, Hippo isn't being a hypocrite over this (I can't say for sure as I have no idea if he has condoned in in one instant and condemned it here).
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It's been common knowledge for years. Do you honestly think I'm going to be ar$ed trawling through the internet on your behalf? Do it thissen!
posted on 17/1/19
If I found Bielsa in bed with my wife I'd have to seriously question why I don't remember getting married.
posted on 17/1/19
On the subject of Hippo being a hypocrite, that's in the context of him accusing Leeds of cheating yet, as pointed out by Macca, ManU also cheat in different ways themselves. Spying isn't cheating or illegal anyway. It might be unsporting and some are better at it than others, but it's widespread in sport in general eg AVB for Mourinho at Chelsea, F1 etc.
posted on 17/1/19
comment by Peakwhite (U7815)
posted 2 minutes ago
On the subject of Hippo being a hypocrite, that's in the context of him accusing Leeds of cheating yet, as pointed out by Macca, ManU also cheat in different ways themselves. Spying isn't cheating or illegal anyway. It might be unsporting and some are better at it than others, but it's widespread in sport in general eg AVB for Mourinho at Chelsea, F1 etc.
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I've seen Hippo talking about his fairly regularly and my conclusion has been that they are not to be taken seriously.
posted on 17/1/19
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/10-times-teams-spied-on-their-opposition-leeds-utd-chelsea-man-utd/
Have a read of this, China.
posted on 17/1/19
yeah hippo can be filed under WUM
posted on 17/1/19
What are you exactly referring to as being common knowledge? Spying on opposition or SAF used a helicopter to spy on City? The former may be the latter I doubt it to be.
Two of Macca's point are pretty useless (getting in the ref's face when it was being done, rules came in to stamp it out, and Fergie time is a myth as stats proved since Liverpool had got more added minutes, and penalties, in the PL).
On Hippo, has he condone cheating by United? He only becomes a hypocrite if he condones it in the instance of United and condemns in when others, such as Leeds, do it.
posted on 17/1/19
I read that, Peakwhite. It's not really conclusive regarding cheating (regarding SAF). In fact, two others are based on nothing but one man's paranoia and another guy not getting along with the person he accuses of cheating.
Poor article to use as proof.
posted on 17/1/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 3 minutes ago
I read that, Peakwhite. It's not really conclusive regarding cheating (regarding SAF). In fact, two others are based on nothing but one man's paranoia and another guy not getting along with the person he accuses of cheating.
Poor article to use as proof.
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Whatever. The helicopter did circle over the City training ground twice but fir what reason? Who cares!
posted on 17/1/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 11 minutes ago
What are you exactly referring to as being common knowledge? Spying on opposition or SAF used a helicopter to spy on City? The former may be the latter I doubt it to be.
Two of Macca's point are pretty useless (getting in the ref's face when it was being done, rules came in to stamp it out, and Fergie time is a myth as stats proved since Liverpool had got more added minutes, and penalties, in the PL).
On Hippo, has he condone cheating by United? He only becomes a hypocrite if he condones it in the instance of United and condemns in when others, such as Leeds, do it.
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Fair comment.
posted on 17/1/19
The one's condemning Bielsa are mostly saying he has acted immorally and not in the spirit of the game. Martin Keone one of Bielsa's critics I remember famously against Man Utd was pretty thug like towards Van Nistelroy and most of his career like many others criticising Bielsa used gamesmanship to their advantage which is definitely not in the spirit of the game.
posted on 17/1/19
"In 2009, The Mirror reported that Sir Alex Ferguson’s helicopter had been spotted flying over Manchester City’s training ground ahead of a Manchester derby.
The story suggested “City officials wondered if they were the victims of a spying mission, with their arch-rivals wanting to know any last-minute secrets”."
That's the quote from the article you linked. Nothing about it flying around twice as you mentioned. Hence a poor article to link to as proof.
posted on 17/1/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 2 minutes ago
"In 2009, The Mirror reported that Sir Alex Ferguson’s helicopter had been spotted flying over Manchester City’s training ground ahead of a Manchester derby.
The story suggested “City officials wondered if they were the victims of a spying mission, with their arch-rivals wanting to know any last-minute secrets”."
That's the quote from the article you linked. Nothing about it flying around twice as you mentioned. Hence a poor article to link to as proof.
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Read the FULL article, which clearly states the helicopter circled the training ground twice.
I'm not going to debate this topic any longer. Quite frrankly, I have more important issues to deal with today, but nice chatting to you and exchanging views.
posted on 17/1/19
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sir-alex-fergusons-helicopter-spotted-3372954Here's the actual full article:
posted on 17/1/19
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sir-alex-fergusons-helicopter-spotted-3372954
posted on 17/1/19
Yeah Macca, that very intimidating action by Keone on van Nistelroy was what I thought immediately after Keone
spoke...not that he did anything criminal, a bit like Bielsa...all a storm in a FA cup!
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