Good read BS. This part in particular is so true.... “Wilfred Ndidi and Nampalys Mendy are both woefully out of form but continue to be selected”
How Ndidi keeps getting selected is beyond me.
No way Choudhury should have been left out at Wolves

over trained i have heard that before a few years back from a member of the backroom staff about another former manager who won the premier league.

You can tell exactly where this is coming from inside the club.
Those who don't want change and want to do it the Pearson way

I'm not really sure that 'the players are being over trained on Friday which is why they start Saturday so badly' makes much sense. I mean, if they were being overworked, wouldn't they be getting more tired as the game goes on?

This just reeks of someone within the club who wants Puel gone and is using the media to turn more of the fans against him. As Nev points out, we were hearing these stories about Ranieri too so there is a pattern here.

Also, given how badly we defended on Saturday, maybe we should be training more, not less...

Nev/Foxello, I can only suggest you’re in denial if you believe that Puel’s methods and tactics are getting anywhere near the best out of this squad.

3 transfer windows, a very different set of players, and we still have Wes Morgan leading a high line and being repeatedly embarrassed as a result.

Personally I can see the players overthinking on the pitch. Whatever Puel is trying isn’t coming naturally. Why oh why can’t he just try something else?

I guess Vardy, Kasper and Morgan hols a fun to his head every day in your minds and so he has no chance.

I like the picture of the manager covering his face in his hands like he cant look/believe it...well welcome to my world Mr Puel.

Nev, Foxello - you’re right, just like at every top club in the country there is a leak. It happened at United with Mourinho, Chelsea with Conte etc - journalists have sources that work in the respective clubs they cover. Could be a coach, could be someone reporting into the DoF - who knows.

Remember when Rob Dorset reported that Pearson had been sacked and re-instated? That came from a source within the club. There was plenty of this going on when Pearson was in charge so to suggest it’s someone with an pro Pearson agenda Nev is laughable. It’s just the modern world.

But to plough that field misses the point really. The point is - it’s not working. If you take the time to read the article the journalist makes a great point - with the constant changes, the slow starts every game, the bad home form and decent away form - there’s little progress here.

He also makes a very salient point - Puels reference of the recent tragedy is ill advised given how badly Leicester were performing on the day of that particular event

Mersey, I'm not sticking up for Puel. I'm fed up with his tactics and team selection and I'm at the point now where I think we need to make a change. But I'm also fed up with this kind of stuff leaking out to the press. It happened under Ranieri, it's happening under Puel and it'll happen to the next guy in 12 months too.

By the way - the Southampton players were well known to be unhappy with the training methods when Puel was in charge. A mate of mine said to me recently that they were notorious for slow starts back then (not saying that was the fault of training) but Saints has a better back 4 than we do

comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 1 minute ago
Mersey, I'm not sticking up for Puel. I'm fed up with his tactics and team selection and I'm at the point now where I think we need to make a change. But I'm also fed up with this kind of stuff leaking out to the press. It happened under Ranieri, it's happening under Puel and it'll happen to the next guy in 12 months too.
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And it happened under Pearson

And happens at every premier league club

Well if not Nigel BS they won't want another foreign coach and i suggest that the next manager bins them before the same guys do him.

comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well if not Nigel BS they won't want another foreign coach and i suggest that the next manager bins them before the same guys do him.


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This is absolutely bizarre thinking Nev! The leaks were there when Pearson was in charge. He wasn’t foreign. There no UKIP style conspiracy here

comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 37 minutes ago
Mersey, I'm not sticking up for Puel. I'm fed up with his tactics and team selection and I'm at the point now where I think we need to make a change. But I'm also fed up with this kind of stuff leaking out to the press. It happened under Ranieri, it's happening under Puel and it'll happen to the next guy in 12 months too.
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Agree Foxello. I think we’re all fed up.

I honestly don’t think it will happen to the next guy though, as long as that next guy is able to get more from the squad.

I want to see 75% of my top players being played to their strengths, and the rest of the squad benefitting and playing well as a result.

Puel is prioritising the strengths of Gray and Ghezzal over the strengths of Vardy and Ndidi.

Either a new manager comes in and sells Vardy, or we play in a way that better involves him in games. It’s like having Messi at Barca but playing long ball.

BS your wrong there different leaks different people NP was at board level

comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 19 minutes ago
BS your wrong there different leaks different people NP was at board level

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You’re missing the point which is no matter who the manager is, there have been leaks coming from the club. That’s football

If your punching above your weight there will be stories, if your keep getting knocked out with a sucker punch or your down on the ropes there will be stories, if your stood in the middle trading jabs nobody cares – that’s just how it is. These guys get the big bucks to manage these situations, it tough at the top, beat Cardiff and the likes at home and it all goes away…

BS missing the points different leaks from different people the link is these people pressed to get nigel back pressed to get CR fired and put shakey in the job and we know how that went. Now they are using the foriegn coaches always want to train to much the same thing someone said to me from the club when they wanted CR out.
Leaking bits of new is one thing but using your position to determine the clubs managers is down to the owners.
Its disrespectful to us your closeness to them to push your own agenda. Surely someone must see through this or does the DOF condone and support it?

I think there's a much bigger problem than leaks right now. In fact, leaks are more the symptom.

If the club has taken a decision to wait until summer and then replace Puel regardless (let's say for argument's sake with Brendan Rodgers), then what we have right now is a lame duck manager. A zombie manager. Puel the undead. In the top half of the table, we have a team who aren't particularly enjoying their football but neither have anything really to play for - despite the fact that they should be going all-out for 7th and a probable spot in the Europa League qualifying. We're coming up against teams above us, below us and around us who want to win more than we do. We have players within the club who will just be seeing off the manager and have no incentive to try to impress him. Like Iheanacho not even being that bothered about getting onto the pitch at the weekend. Many who are making a real effort will be those who have something individual to strive for, such as Choudhury and Barnes trying to prove that they are worthy of spots in the first team. But I can't imagine the team spirit in general is particularly high right now as there is a lack of collective aim. Everton have the same problem.

comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 19 minutes ago
BS missing the points different leaks from different people the link is these people pressed to get nigel back pressed to get CR fired and put shakey in the job and we know how that went. Now they are using the foriegn coaches always want to train to much the same thing someone said to me from the club when they wanted CR out.
Leaking bits of new is one thing but using your position to determine the clubs managers is down to the owners.
Its disrespectful to us your closeness to them to push your own agenda. Surely someone must see through this or does the DOF condone and support it?
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So who was pushing for Nigel to be sacked then? Because there were plenty of leaks to the media when he was in charge

Just sounds like modern football to me

comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 48 minutes ago
I think there's a much bigger problem than leaks right now. In fact, leaks are more the symptom.

If the club has taken a decision to wait until summer and then replace Puel regardless (let's say for argument's sake with Brendan Rodgers), then what we have right now is a lame duck manager. A zombie manager. Puel the undead. In the top half of the table, we have a team who aren't particularly enjoying their football but neither have anything really to play for - despite the fact that they should be going all-out for 7th and a probable spot in the Europa League qualifying. We're coming up against teams above us, below us and around us who want to win more than we do. We have players within the club who will just be seeing off the manager and have no incentive to try to impress him. Like Iheanacho not even being that bothered about getting onto the pitch at the weekend. Many who are making a real effort will be those who have something individual to strive for, such as Choudhury and Barnes trying to prove that they are worthy of spots in the first team. But I can't imagine the team spirit in general is particularly high right now as there is a lack of collective aim. Everton have the same problem.
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That's why if you're going to get knocked out of the Cups without a whimper, you have to win your bread and butter league games

That Newport game is probably the beginning of the end for him. Maybe a very long, painful, drawn-out end.

comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 10 minutes ago
That Newport game is probably the beginning of the end for him. Maybe a very long, painful, drawn-out end.
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BS no one was pushing for Nigel to get sacked except me! no he was sacked and reinstated that was the leak.
Cheesy interesting what did Puel do different from every other Premier league manager. These aren't the exact figures before TB butts in but 130 players out of a possiable 190 players in the cup players fuffed up in the newport game Pep played the seven youth team players and won.
Its the modern game not just Puel ever manager does it

Maybe so but Claude chose not to have Vards on the bench at Newport which was his big mistake.

The problem is that now we're out of both cups, the focus is now entirely on our performance in the League to Puel's detriment.

I hope you're wrong Dunge about the lame duck manager, that's a depressing vision for the rest of the season. I'd still like to see him develop what we're doing and show we can move forward under his stewardship.

I trust we will see 3DMs against Liverpool, if not it could be a cricket score.

I fear a cricket score even if we play with 3DMs!

Although Liverpool are wobbling. This is the time to play them.

comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
BS no one was pushing for Nigel to get sacked except me! no he was sacked and reinstated that was the leak.
Cheesy interesting what did Puel do different from every other Premier league manager. These aren't the exact figures before TB butts in but 130 players out of a possiable 190 players in the cup players fuffed up in the newport game Pep played the seven youth team players and won.
Its the modern game not just Puel ever manager does it


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Other clubs rotate because they are playing in Europe as well as the league and/or because they are looking for a CL place, or fighting a bigger battle in relegation.

We haven’t played the extra European games and aren’t vying for CL places or fighting relegation. At best, we were looking for that outside Europa place (which is what makes the idea to not play a full strength team against Man City in the league cup bizarre and no real logic of why we wouldn’t try to progress in the FA Cup - a) for a cup we haven’t won and ) aiming to progress to the same competition as 7th or a league cup win would gain.

But I think you have hit the nail completely on the head Nev. He rotates because some other clubs do it. I think there is no more or less involved in his thought process - evidenced by this constant rotating now even when we are only playing league fixtures now (and please let’s not use this embarrassing excuse about this host of additional games that we’ve had to play as a club because there hasn’t been many, and as mentioned he completely contradicts this by rotating in league games <and not even based on consistent form or understandable/logically tactical choices)

As humans we desperately strive for greater meaning to everything and structure and order.
As fans, I think we are desperately looking for a deeper meaning but the sad truth is: there isn’t one. He is simply rotating for the sake of it and to give a whole host of players a game in a whole host of positions. That’s it.

I can’t remember the last time, as a fan, it was January and I was just wishing the season away. I’ve accepted what the rest of the season holds and my biggest worry is the affect it will have on the start of next season, and ability to convince players to stay (even with a new manager) when other clubs come calling.