comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 14 minutes ago
Haye, when you're going for targets, part of what you're looking for is do they fit into the culture we want.
Saiz clearly didn't. Sulked from early on, the spitting, the sulking this season and then wanting out. He's had so many clubs before, we should have really thought a bit harder about that, he cost us £3mill, we won't recoup that and we've been left exposed now.
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Spot on
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posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 54 minutes ago
The OP makes it sound like Casilla kept us in the game against Rotherham rather than made 1 good save from the two 25 yard shots he had to deal with...at a place most teams
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He made a world class save at 1-1 in around the 65th minute. 9/10 championship keepers that shot goes in. Do you think we would have won the game if we went 2-1 behind at that stage?
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Firstly you can’t say who would or wouldn’t have saved it, it was a very good save, but the point is irrelevant. If I said, if we didn’t make stupid defensive errors in all the games we lost, we’d have won or drawn them, that would just as relevant.
Your thread is about performances... we weren’t great, just about deserved the win in the end at Rotherham which is a hard place to go.
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The game was on a knife edge against Rotherham. That save, was a save most wouldn’t/couldn’t have made. It won us the points in my opinion.
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Ok, using that logic, most good defenders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Jansson and Douglas have made recently, most good defensive midfielders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Phillips and foreshaw have made recently.
If they hadn’t made them we’d have won most of the games we’re talking about... maybe even saturday’s. They lost us the points imo.
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What are you talking about?
I’m trying to say that we needed more players that WIN us points, as Casilla did.
I’m not talking about players who cost us points. It’s second tier football, mistakes will be made.
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 10 minutes ago
Siaz wasn't in the team he was a bench warmer
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He played in most of our better performances this season.
Same as Phillips being in midfield.
The lengths people have gone to justify bad management has gone on for years and still going on.
People are missing the point completely.
I’ve read people say, well you didn’t rate saiz so it doesn’t matter that we haven’t replaced him.
Whether or not you rated him, he gave us another option, same has baker.
Now what’s happening is, players are continually getting moved around to cover players, it’s not helping.
We’ve not given ourselves the best chance, and I think that’s poor management
The thing with brown is he was always a ‘wild card’ the hope that he’d be like a January signing to supplement/replace Saiz if he found the English winter too taxing.
Brown was meant to be here as competition for Saiz. Personally i thought it was worth a punt as we didn’t pay for him whilst injured... provided nobody was banking on him. Which is the key point.
But it still means you needed to replace Saiz after he left... and it just becomes twice as important when brown turns out to still not be fit.
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 1 minute ago
The thing with brown is he was always a ‘wild card’ the hope that he’d be like a January signing to supplement/replace Saiz if he found the English winter too taxing.
Brown was meant to be here as competition for Saiz. Personally i thought it was worth a punt as we didn’t pay for him whilst injured... provided nobody was banking on him. Which is the key point.
But it still means you needed to replace Saiz after he left... and it just becomes twice as important when brown turns out to still not be fit.
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He was previously viewed as a wild card. Was a low risk gamble, with the hope he’d add to an already good side for the final push.
Our dreadful January means we now NEED him to play and need him to hit the ground running.
Just don’t know what the club were doing in January.
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 13 seconds ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 54 minutes ago
The OP makes it sound like Casilla kept us in the game against Rotherham rather than made 1 good save from the two 25 yard shots he had to deal with...at a place most teams
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He made a world class save at 1-1 in around the 65th minute. 9/10 championship keepers that shot goes in. Do you think we would have won the game if we went 2-1 behind at that stage?
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Firstly you can’t say who would or wouldn’t have saved it, it was a very good save, but the point is irrelevant. If I said, if we didn’t make stupid defensive errors in all the games we lost, we’d have won or drawn them, that would just as relevant.
Your thread is about performances... we weren’t great, just about deserved the win in the end at Rotherham which is a hard place to go.
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The game was on a knife edge against Rotherham. That save, was a save most wouldn’t/couldn’t have made. It won us the points in my opinion.
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Ok, using that logic, most good defenders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Jansson and Douglas have made recently, most good defensive midfielders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Phillips and foreshaw have made recently.
If they hadn’t made them we’d have won most of the games we’re talking about... maybe even saturday’s. They lost us the points imo.
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What are you talking about?
I’m trying to say that we needed more players that WIN us points, as Casilla did.
I’m not talking about players who cost us points. It’s second tier football, mistakes will be made.
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Oh so the thread you started called ‘playing well?’ wasn’t about team form... it was that we need individual players who win games.
And it’s immaterial if players make mistakes because all players make them at this level.
I’m glad that’s cleared up!
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 1 minute ago
The thing with brown is he was always a ‘wild card’ the hope that he’d be like a January signing to supplement/replace Saiz if he found the English winter too taxing.
Brown was meant to be here as competition for Saiz. Personally i thought it was worth a punt as we didn’t pay for him whilst injured... provided nobody was banking on him. Which is the key point.
But it still means you needed to replace Saiz after he left... and it just becomes twice as important when brown turns out to still not be fit.
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He was previously viewed as a wild card. Was a low risk gamble, with the hope he’d add to an already good side for the final push.
Our dreadful January means we now NEED him to play and need him to hit the ground running.
Just don’t know what the club were doing in January.
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I completely agree about January, the window strategy was based on limited cash, so we couldn’t start negotiations on one position until another was filled etc.
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posted 13 minutes ago
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posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 54 minutes ago
The OP makes it sound like Casilla kept us in the game against Rotherham rather than made 1 good save from the two 25 yard shots he had to deal with...at a place most teams
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He made a world class save at 1-1 in around the 65th minute. 9/10 championship keepers that shot goes in. Do you think we would have won the game if we went 2-1 behind at that stage?
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Firstly you can’t say who would or wouldn’t have saved it, it was a very good save, but the point is irrelevant. If I said, if we didn’t make stupid defensive errors in all the games we lost, we’d have won or drawn them, that would just as relevant.
Your thread is about performances... we weren’t great, just about deserved the win in the end at Rotherham which is a hard place to go.
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The game was on a knife edge against Rotherham. That save, was a save most wouldn’t/couldn’t have made. It won us the points in my opinion.
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Ok, using that logic, most good defenders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Jansson and Douglas have made recently, most good defensive midfielders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Phillips and foreshaw have made recently.
If they hadn’t made them we’d have won most of the games we’re talking about... maybe even saturday’s. They lost us the points imo.
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What are you talking about?
I’m trying to say that we needed more players that WIN us points, as Casilla did.
I’m not talking about players who cost us points. It’s second tier football, mistakes will be made.
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Oh so the thread you started called ‘playing well?’ wasn’t about team form... it was that we need individual players who win games.
And it’s immaterial if players make mistakes because all players make them at this level.
I’m glad that’s cleared up!
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We needed players to improve our form, as a pattern has now developed that we struggle to create clear cut chances.
Look at those games in the original post, only the Derby game where we played well and won convincingly.
We’ve lost 4 out of 6, and the writing was on the wall before that.
We all want the same thing, Leeds promotion.
Failure to replace Saiz, and having to move Phillips to centre back regularly, may cost us that.
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB worked Same as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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posted 3 minutes ago
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB workedSame as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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He played well at centre back, not disputing that.
But having Forshaw in midfield instead of him weakens our team.
Even on an off day, Saiz was a handful for teams and he needed dealing with. He was still creating chances and picking up assists just before he left. Huge mistake not replacing him.
"Letting Saiz go was idiotic, and failing to replace him is even worse.
AR has a lot to answer for if we don’t get top 2". Stinks of defeatism, if we do get top two what then? Are the decisions made the correct ones only if we end up in the auto spots,what about finishing third and winning the playoffs, does Radz need to give answers then.
Saiz is a bit of a red herring in this, he was disinterested and making less of an impact as the season progressed, his body language and the fact that he could speak next to no English were indicative of how much he had invested in being at the club, I am glad we got shot because I felt he just isn't the kind of player that we needed at the club. Talented but heart not in it, not for me.
Having said that how do you replace him? A player with ability and the right temperament, I am not sure who you wanted in mate. They are not ten a penny and I am sure they were looking.
^. ^. ^
Exactly, nail on the head, Elsbels
comment by Elsbels (U21658)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
"Letting Saiz go was idiotic, and failing to replace him is even worse.
AR has a lot to answer for if we don’t get top 2". Stinks of defeatism, if we do get top two what then? Are the decisions made the correct ones only if we end up in the auto spots,what about finishing third and winning the playoffs, does Radz need to give answers then.
Saiz is a bit of a red herring in this, he was disinterested and making less of an impact as the season progressed, his body language and the fact that he could speak next to no English were indicative of how much he had invested in being at the club, I am glad we got shot because I felt he just isn't the kind of player that we needed at the club. Talented but heart not in it, not for me.
Having said that how do you replace him? A player with ability and the right temperament, I am not sure who you wanted in mate. They are not ten a penny and I am sure they were looking.
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Spin it how you like.
We’ve been top for a while, and January was the perfect oppprtunity to re-strengthen and go again. We couldn’t have been in a better position to mount a challenge.
Instead of using the window to strengthen, we’ve got worse.
I said a few times before the window that I was praying the club had learnt it’s lesson about failing to strengthen. Yet here we are again.
Gosh you people are depressing.
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posted 1 minute ago
Gosh you people are depressing.
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So is being in the Championship.
Would think we were staving off relegation by the skin of our teeth, though.
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 3 minutes ago
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB workedSame as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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He played well at centre back, not disputing that.
But having Forshaw in midfield instead of him weakens our team.
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What games have we lost with Philips & CB & Forshaw in CM?
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels (U21658)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
"Letting Saiz go was idiotic, and failing to replace him is even worse.
AR has a lot to answer for if we don’t get top 2". Stinks of defeatism, if we do get top two what then? Are the decisions made the correct ones only if we end up in the auto spots,what about finishing third and winning the playoffs, does Radz need to give answers then.
Saiz is a bit of a red herring in this, he was disinterested and making less of an impact as the season progressed, his body language and the fact that he could speak next to no English were indicative of how much he had invested in being at the club, I am glad we got shot because I felt he just isn't the kind of player that we needed at the club. Talented but heart not in it, not for me.
Having said that how do you replace him? A player with ability and the right temperament, I am not sure who you wanted in mate. They are not ten a penny and I am sure they were looking.
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Spin it how you like.
We’ve been top for a while, and January was the perfect oppprtunity to re-strengthen and go again. We couldn’t have been in a better position to mount a challenge.
Instead of using the window to strengthen, we’ve got worse.
I said a few times before the window that I was praying the club had learnt it’s lesson about failing to strengthen. Yet here we are again.
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Absolutely spot on.truth is hard to heat sometimes. If we go up from here it will be despite backing and contribution from the board rather than because of it.it always seems to come back to that at our club over the last 17 years.
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 3 minutes ago
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB workedSame as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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He played well at centre back, not disputing that.
But having Forshaw in midfield instead of him weakens our team.
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What games have we lost with Philips & CB & Forshaw in CM?
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We’ve lost 4 of the last 6, with Forshaw in the middle instead of Phillips.
I’m saying that we’re a worse team with Forshaw in the middle. That we played our best stuff this season when Forshaw was injured, and Phillips was there.
Do you disagree?
You need to take those rose tinted glasses off we’ve been poor for ages now
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posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 3 minutes ago
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB workedSame as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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He played well at centre back, not disputing that.
But having Forshaw in midfield instead of him weakens our team.
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What games have we lost with Philips & CB & Forshaw in CM?
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We’ve lost 4 of the last 6, with Forshaw in the middle instead of Phillips.
I’m saying that we’re a worse team with Forshaw in the middle. That we played our best stuff this season when Forshaw was injured, and Phillips was there.
Do you disagree?
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Nah was awesome against direby
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comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 3 minutes ago
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB workedSame as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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He played well at centre back, not disputing that.
But having Forshaw in midfield instead of him weakens our team.
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What games have we lost with Philips & CB & Forshaw in CM?
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We’ve lost 4 of the last 6, with Forshaw in the middle instead of Phillips.
I’m saying that we’re a worse team with Forshaw in the middle. That we played our best stuff this season when Forshaw was injured, and Phillips was there.
Do you disagree?
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Nah was awesome against direby
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You think we’re a better side with Forshaw instead of Phillips?
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posted on 5/2/19
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 14 minutes ago
Haye, when you're going for targets, part of what you're looking for is do they fit into the culture we want.
Saiz clearly didn't. Sulked from early on, the spitting, the sulking this season and then wanting out. He's had so many clubs before, we should have really thought a bit harder about that, he cost us £3mill, we won't recoup that and we've been left exposed now.
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Spot on
posted on 5/2/19
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 54 minutes ago
The OP makes it sound like Casilla kept us in the game against Rotherham rather than made 1 good save from the two 25 yard shots he had to deal with...at a place most teams
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He made a world class save at 1-1 in around the 65th minute. 9/10 championship keepers that shot goes in. Do you think we would have won the game if we went 2-1 behind at that stage?
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Firstly you can’t say who would or wouldn’t have saved it, it was a very good save, but the point is irrelevant. If I said, if we didn’t make stupid defensive errors in all the games we lost, we’d have won or drawn them, that would just as relevant.
Your thread is about performances... we weren’t great, just about deserved the win in the end at Rotherham which is a hard place to go.
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The game was on a knife edge against Rotherham. That save, was a save most wouldn’t/couldn’t have made. It won us the points in my opinion.
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Ok, using that logic, most good defenders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Jansson and Douglas have made recently, most good defensive midfielders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Phillips and foreshaw have made recently.
If they hadn’t made them we’d have won most of the games we’re talking about... maybe even saturday’s. They lost us the points imo.
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What are you talking about?
I’m trying to say that we needed more players that WIN us points, as Casilla did.
I’m not talking about players who cost us points. It’s second tier football, mistakes will be made.
posted on 5/2/19
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 10 minutes ago
Siaz wasn't in the team he was a bench warmer
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He played in most of our better performances this season.
Same as Phillips being in midfield.
posted on 5/2/19
The lengths people have gone to justify bad management has gone on for years and still going on.
People are missing the point completely.
I’ve read people say, well you didn’t rate saiz so it doesn’t matter that we haven’t replaced him.
Whether or not you rated him, he gave us another option, same has baker.
Now what’s happening is, players are continually getting moved around to cover players, it’s not helping.
We’ve not given ourselves the best chance, and I think that’s poor management
posted on 5/2/19
The thing with brown is he was always a ‘wild card’ the hope that he’d be like a January signing to supplement/replace Saiz if he found the English winter too taxing.
Brown was meant to be here as competition for Saiz. Personally i thought it was worth a punt as we didn’t pay for him whilst injured... provided nobody was banking on him. Which is the key point.
But it still means you needed to replace Saiz after he left... and it just becomes twice as important when brown turns out to still not be fit.
posted on 5/2/19
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 1 minute ago
The thing with brown is he was always a ‘wild card’ the hope that he’d be like a January signing to supplement/replace Saiz if he found the English winter too taxing.
Brown was meant to be here as competition for Saiz. Personally i thought it was worth a punt as we didn’t pay for him whilst injured... provided nobody was banking on him. Which is the key point.
But it still means you needed to replace Saiz after he left... and it just becomes twice as important when brown turns out to still not be fit.
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He was previously viewed as a wild card. Was a low risk gamble, with the hope he’d add to an already good side for the final push.
Our dreadful January means we now NEED him to play and need him to hit the ground running.
Just don’t know what the club were doing in January.
posted on 5/2/19
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 54 minutes ago
The OP makes it sound like Casilla kept us in the game against Rotherham rather than made 1 good save from the two 25 yard shots he had to deal with...at a place most teams
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He made a world class save at 1-1 in around the 65th minute. 9/10 championship keepers that shot goes in. Do you think we would have won the game if we went 2-1 behind at that stage?
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Firstly you can’t say who would or wouldn’t have saved it, it was a very good save, but the point is irrelevant. If I said, if we didn’t make stupid defensive errors in all the games we lost, we’d have won or drawn them, that would just as relevant.
Your thread is about performances... we weren’t great, just about deserved the win in the end at Rotherham which is a hard place to go.
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The game was on a knife edge against Rotherham. That save, was a save most wouldn’t/couldn’t have made. It won us the points in my opinion.
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Ok, using that logic, most good defenders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Jansson and Douglas have made recently, most good defensive midfielders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Phillips and foreshaw have made recently.
If they hadn’t made them we’d have won most of the games we’re talking about... maybe even saturday’s. They lost us the points imo.
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What are you talking about?
I’m trying to say that we needed more players that WIN us points, as Casilla did.
I’m not talking about players who cost us points. It’s second tier football, mistakes will be made.
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Oh so the thread you started called ‘playing well?’ wasn’t about team form... it was that we need individual players who win games.
And it’s immaterial if players make mistakes because all players make them at this level.
I’m glad that’s cleared up!
posted on 5/2/19
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 1 minute ago
The thing with brown is he was always a ‘wild card’ the hope that he’d be like a January signing to supplement/replace Saiz if he found the English winter too taxing.
Brown was meant to be here as competition for Saiz. Personally i thought it was worth a punt as we didn’t pay for him whilst injured... provided nobody was banking on him. Which is the key point.
But it still means you needed to replace Saiz after he left... and it just becomes twice as important when brown turns out to still not be fit.
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He was previously viewed as a wild card. Was a low risk gamble, with the hope he’d add to an already good side for the final push.
Our dreadful January means we now NEED him to play and need him to hit the ground running.
Just don’t know what the club were doing in January.
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I completely agree about January, the window strategy was based on limited cash, so we couldn’t start negotiations on one position until another was filled etc.
posted on 5/2/19
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 54 minutes ago
The OP makes it sound like Casilla kept us in the game against Rotherham rather than made 1 good save from the two 25 yard shots he had to deal with...at a place most teams
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He made a world class save at 1-1 in around the 65th minute. 9/10 championship keepers that shot goes in. Do you think we would have won the game if we went 2-1 behind at that stage?
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Firstly you can’t say who would or wouldn’t have saved it, it was a very good save, but the point is irrelevant. If I said, if we didn’t make stupid defensive errors in all the games we lost, we’d have won or drawn them, that would just as relevant.
Your thread is about performances... we weren’t great, just about deserved the win in the end at Rotherham which is a hard place to go.
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The game was on a knife edge against Rotherham. That save, was a save most wouldn’t/couldn’t have made. It won us the points in my opinion.
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Ok, using that logic, most good defenders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Jansson and Douglas have made recently, most good defensive midfielders wouldn’t have made the mistakes Phillips and foreshaw have made recently.
If they hadn’t made them we’d have won most of the games we’re talking about... maybe even saturday’s. They lost us the points imo.
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What are you talking about?
I’m trying to say that we needed more players that WIN us points, as Casilla did.
I’m not talking about players who cost us points. It’s second tier football, mistakes will be made.
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Oh so the thread you started called ‘playing well?’ wasn’t about team form... it was that we need individual players who win games.
And it’s immaterial if players make mistakes because all players make them at this level.
I’m glad that’s cleared up!
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We needed players to improve our form, as a pattern has now developed that we struggle to create clear cut chances.
Look at those games in the original post, only the Derby game where we played well and won convincingly.
We’ve lost 4 out of 6, and the writing was on the wall before that.
We all want the same thing, Leeds promotion.
Failure to replace Saiz, and having to move Phillips to centre back regularly, may cost us that.
posted on 5/2/19
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB worked Same as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
posted on 5/2/19
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 3 minutes ago
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB workedSame as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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He played well at centre back, not disputing that.
But having Forshaw in midfield instead of him weakens our team.
posted on 5/2/19
Even on an off day, Saiz was a handful for teams and he needed dealing with. He was still creating chances and picking up assists just before he left. Huge mistake not replacing him.
posted on 5/2/19
"Letting Saiz go was idiotic, and failing to replace him is even worse.
AR has a lot to answer for if we don’t get top 2". Stinks of defeatism, if we do get top two what then? Are the decisions made the correct ones only if we end up in the auto spots,what about finishing third and winning the playoffs, does Radz need to give answers then.
Saiz is a bit of a red herring in this, he was disinterested and making less of an impact as the season progressed, his body language and the fact that he could speak next to no English were indicative of how much he had invested in being at the club, I am glad we got shot because I felt he just isn't the kind of player that we needed at the club. Talented but heart not in it, not for me.
Having said that how do you replace him? A player with ability and the right temperament, I am not sure who you wanted in mate. They are not ten a penny and I am sure they were looking.
posted on 5/2/19
^. ^. ^
Exactly, nail on the head, Elsbels
posted on 5/2/19
comment by Elsbels (U21658)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
"Letting Saiz go was idiotic, and failing to replace him is even worse.
AR has a lot to answer for if we don’t get top 2". Stinks of defeatism, if we do get top two what then? Are the decisions made the correct ones only if we end up in the auto spots,what about finishing third and winning the playoffs, does Radz need to give answers then.
Saiz is a bit of a red herring in this, he was disinterested and making less of an impact as the season progressed, his body language and the fact that he could speak next to no English were indicative of how much he had invested in being at the club, I am glad we got shot because I felt he just isn't the kind of player that we needed at the club. Talented but heart not in it, not for me.
Having said that how do you replace him? A player with ability and the right temperament, I am not sure who you wanted in mate. They are not ten a penny and I am sure they were looking.
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Spin it how you like.
We’ve been top for a while, and January was the perfect oppprtunity to re-strengthen and go again. We couldn’t have been in a better position to mount a challenge.
Instead of using the window to strengthen, we’ve got worse.
I said a few times before the window that I was praying the club had learnt it’s lesson about failing to strengthen. Yet here we are again.
posted on 5/2/19
Gosh you people are depressing.
posted on 5/2/19
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 1 minute ago
Gosh you people are depressing.
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So is being in the Championship.
posted on 5/2/19
Would think we were staving off relegation by the skin of our teeth, though.
posted on 5/2/19
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 3 minutes ago
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB workedSame as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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He played well at centre back, not disputing that.
But having Forshaw in midfield instead of him weakens our team.
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What games have we lost with Philips & CB & Forshaw in CM?
posted on 5/2/19
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels (U21658)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
"Letting Saiz go was idiotic, and failing to replace him is even worse.
AR has a lot to answer for if we don’t get top 2". Stinks of defeatism, if we do get top two what then? Are the decisions made the correct ones only if we end up in the auto spots,what about finishing third and winning the playoffs, does Radz need to give answers then.
Saiz is a bit of a red herring in this, he was disinterested and making less of an impact as the season progressed, his body language and the fact that he could speak next to no English were indicative of how much he had invested in being at the club, I am glad we got shot because I felt he just isn't the kind of player that we needed at the club. Talented but heart not in it, not for me.
Having said that how do you replace him? A player with ability and the right temperament, I am not sure who you wanted in mate. They are not ten a penny and I am sure they were looking.
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Spin it how you like.
We’ve been top for a while, and January was the perfect oppprtunity to re-strengthen and go again. We couldn’t have been in a better position to mount a challenge.
Instead of using the window to strengthen, we’ve got worse.
I said a few times before the window that I was praying the club had learnt it’s lesson about failing to strengthen. Yet here we are again.
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Absolutely spot on.truth is hard to heat sometimes. If we go up from here it will be despite backing and contribution from the board rather than because of it.it always seems to come back to that at our club over the last 17 years.
posted on 5/2/19
*hear
posted on 5/2/19
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 3 minutes ago
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB workedSame as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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He played well at centre back, not disputing that.
But having Forshaw in midfield instead of him weakens our team.
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What games have we lost with Philips & CB & Forshaw in CM?
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We’ve lost 4 of the last 6, with Forshaw in the middle instead of Phillips.
I’m saying that we’re a worse team with Forshaw in the middle. That we played our best stuff this season when Forshaw was injured, and Phillips was there.
Do you disagree?
posted on 5/2/19
You need to take those rose tinted glasses off we’ve been poor for ages now
posted on 5/2/19
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 3 minutes ago
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB workedSame as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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He played well at centre back, not disputing that.
But having Forshaw in midfield instead of him weakens our team.
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What games have we lost with Philips & CB & Forshaw in CM?
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We’ve lost 4 of the last 6, with Forshaw in the middle instead of Phillips.
I’m saying that we’re a worse team with Forshaw in the middle. That we played our best stuff this season when Forshaw was injured, and Phillips was there.
Do you disagree?
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Nah was awesome against direby
posted on 5/2/19
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 3 minutes ago
The only thing we are missing is a replacement for Saiz. Phillips at CB workedSame as playing BPF in goal & Barra at CB & Alioski at LB
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He played well at centre back, not disputing that.
But having Forshaw in midfield instead of him weakens our team.
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What games have we lost with Philips & CB & Forshaw in CM?
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We’ve lost 4 of the last 6, with Forshaw in the middle instead of Phillips.
I’m saying that we’re a worse team with Forshaw in the middle. That we played our best stuff this season when Forshaw was injured, and Phillips was there.
Do you disagree?
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Nah was awesome against direby
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You think we’re a better side with Forshaw instead of Phillips?
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