Deffo not the DoF job as it’s radically different job to coaching

At this rate he deserves the managers job - getting top 4 or beating PSG will probably clinch it. Also depends on Poch’s availability as I’m sure behind the scenes if he’s interested he’’ let us know before we appoint someone

Look at some of those statistics, what was Mourinho doing really

I think you’ll keep him now, and I think Poch would rather be considered after Solksjaer has had a full stint than taking over in the summer given how it’s gone so far.

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I wonder why Chelsea wasn't shown on that. OGS is a legend. I wanted him in December 2013 to replace Moyes. Glad he is here to save us.

He’s doing and saying a lot of the right things. The problems for me at the club go beyond the coach, however, and I’d hate for those things to lead to his downfall were he to prove the right man for the job.

Nice read. Thanks

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
He’s doing and saying a lot of the right things. The problems for me at the club go beyond the coach, however, and I’d hate for those things to lead to his downfall were he to prove the right man for the job.
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Well hopefully we start to rectify that issue with the appointment of a good DoF.

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
He’s doing and saying a lot of the right things. The problems for me at the club go beyond the coach, however, and I’d hate for those things to lead to his downfall were he to prove the right man for the job.
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I just read the article. I’m 99% sure you’re going to keep him now!

Depends on the accountability you give the coach really, it’s as much about certain people giving up some accountability as it is definitely needing a new role. That’s the most important bit.

It’s not just about having a director of football, though it’d be a start. I just don’t have much faith in the board’s ability to form an effective footballing strategy for the club. And with that I could see a situation where we struggle to meet their expectations due to their lack of planning.

That said, if we can see more of what we are seeing so far under Ole I’ll be happy. We haven’t played great every game, but there’s been a positivity around the club and with the way we have played or want to play. That’s all I’ve wanted for a long time.

Melts talking great sense again. I agree, i think Poch is now 'putting us on hold' and staying put while keeping an eye over his shoulder should Ole leave after a proper go. That's if Madrid don't come knocking in between.

That was a good read on the article. But a lot ot he things mentioned in it doesn't come as a big surprise. The guy just breathes United, and instils that confidence and guidance back where it should belong.

Under his guidance, the team are progressing admirably and showing different ways of how to get something out of a game - whether it be a 100mph victory, an ugly dogged win, or a battle to scrape a draw. Basically we never lay down if we have a chance to get something. And now we are the most in form team in the league since Ole's appointment.

This would not have happened under Mourinho, and it does beggar belief about what Mourinho was coaching the players for all that time.

I am certain that Poch will stay at Spurs for at least one more season. But if Real do come in for him in the summer they will be harder to turn down than us.

Much tougher tests to come for Ole and his staff but tbh, I don't really have any issues with him being in charge again next season but much depends on what happens above him, as surely there has to be a re-structure of some sort?! Phelan is key in the present set up I feel and I would love to see Rene come back too as part of Oles staff!

I'm not saying that Poch will turn down Madrid if they did come knocking in the summer. I just think that Poch would still have some doubts - whether it be mentally fearful of not winning a major trophy in his first season or the actual big crazy pressures of that club.

He knows he's in a safe but stale position right now at Spurs. And a decision to stay or leave for us or Madrid (if it happened) - i think out of the two clubs - Poch knows that we'd show a bit more patience, but that the Madrid job is the most tempting one for him.

“It’s not just about having a director of football, though it’d be a start. I just don’t have much faith in the board’s ability to form an effective footballing strategy for the club. And with that I could see a situation where we struggle to meet their expectations due to their lack of planning.”

It’s been a mix to me of not having faith in the people on your board seemingly owning those discussions (who shouldn’t) alongside a couple of poor coaching appointments that they also didn’t empower with it either, making it even worse.

It doesn’t hurt if your coaching appointment has already essentially been made though, which I’m pretty sure it has.

comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 29 seconds ago
I'm not saying that Poch will turn down Madrid if they did come knocking in the summer. I just think that Poch would still have some doubts - whether it be mentally fearful of not winning a major trophy in his first season or the actual big crazy pressures of that club.

He knows he's in a safe but stale position right now at Spurs. And a decision to stay or leave for us or Madrid (if it happened) - i think out of the two clubs - Poch knows that we'd show a bit more patience, but that the Madrid job is the most tempting one for him.
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Not just that, had Solksjaer not done a good job, then it would be a much easier job to take in the summer. Ow though, the expectation is rising again and if Solksjaer doesn’t get the job, there will be a comparable made the minute the new guy goes on a bad run.

The amount of pr you’re putting out about Solksjaer though is what makes me thing he’s almost definitely already got it. Part of it will be for the benefit of the fans in a “see? We got this one right” kind of statement from the board, the other part is proving above and beyond the results that he’s thinking the right way and so is the right choice.

I can’t think of any other scenario where that’s happened with a caretaker manager, as it’s just not needed otherwise.

melts, but the poor coaching appointments and the seemingly lack of continuity in the style of those coaches, which then impacts on player recruitment and squad building, is a massive reason I don’t have much faith in them. They’ve not shown anything that suggests to me they know much about football. And when you look at their background, it’s not surprising they don’t know much.

If it’s been decided Ole will take the job it does help our preparations for the summer, for sure. I guess at least with having a coach that is helping our attackers should help going forward at least when it comes to player recruitment - because that has been our biggest failing since Fergie retired, and a big reason for that were the coaches at the club. We’ve actually signed a lot of talented attacking players post Fergie. Arguably more talented than any Fergie even signed in the last four or five years at the club.

The amount of pr you’re putting out about Solksjaer though is what makes me thing he’s almost definitely already got it. Part of it will be for the benefit of the fans in a “see? We got this one right” kind of statement from the board, the other part is proving above and beyond the results that he’s thinking the right way and so is the right choice.

I can’t think of any other scenario where that’s happened with a caretaker manager, as it’s just not needed otherwise.
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This is a very good point.

Melts

I think some of it is to do with who we are. United sells news.

No one, for example, was interested in Tim Sherwood and Spurs.

Another thing with Ole is that he is a genuinely nice guy, and probably more up for interviews like this.

“melts, but the poor coaching appointments and the seemingly lack of continuity in the style of those coaches, which then impacts on player recruitment and squad building, is a massive reason I don’t have much faith in them. They’ve not shown anything that suggests to me they know much about football. And when you look at their background, it’s not surprising they don’t know much. “

Absolutely, I completely agree with that. My point was more the most important thing is that they realise that and so relinquish it to someone else. That could be the (right choice) coach or a director of football. Either is better than how they’ve operated over the past five years.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Melts

I think some of it is to do with who we are. United sells news.

No one, for example, was interested in Tim Sherwood and Spurs.

Another thing with Ole is that he is a genuinely nice guy, and probably more up for interviews like this.


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Yeah I think there’s a bit of that definitely. There’s some that are more clearly a plug though.

There is definitely a change in the air with the club.

It wouldn't surprise me if SAF gate crashed a board meeting when he returned from his illness and ripped them a new one.

I don’t think Ed Woodward would want to relinquish so much influence in that regard, to be honest. Though we can live in hope he’s started to make a note of his errors since taking on the role he has. Bringing in Ole is actually a good start when you consider there were safer, more pragmatic, hands that he could have potentially gone for.

Woodward is all about public image. Hopefully he’s starting to realise that it is his, and the boards, public image that is starting to take on a real negative look the more they keep facking things up.

I think the mood would lighten even further if we saw some radical changes within the board/structure with some blxxdy football people making football decisions!

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 29 seconds ago
I'm not saying that Poch will turn down Madrid if they did come knocking in the summer. I just think that Poch would still have some doubts - whether it be mentally fearful of not winning a major trophy in his first season or the actual big crazy pressures of that club.

He knows he's in a safe but stale position right now at Spurs. And a decision to stay or leave for us or Madrid (if it happened) - i think out of the two clubs - Poch knows that we'd show a bit more patience, but that the Madrid job is the most tempting one for him.
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Not just that, had Solksjaer not done a good job, then it would be a much easier job to take in the summer. Ow though, the expectation is rising again and if Solksjaer doesn’t get the job, there will be a comparable made the minute the new guy goes on a bad run.

The amount of pr you’re putting out about Solksjaer though is what makes me thing he’s almost definitely already got it. Part of it will be for the benefit of the fans in a “see? We got this one right” kind of statement from the board, the other part is proving above and beyond the results that he’s thinking the right way and so is the right choice.

I can’t think of any other scenario where that’s happened with a caretaker manager, as it’s just not needed otherwise.

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Ole has been a breath of fresh air, and is showing the promising signs of what a proper United manager should be all about.

And it's true that if the opposite happened with Ole that it would have made the route to United that bit easier. But now that Ole has been doing well so far, it has risen the expectations of not just him, but whoever follows the footsteps after him at the club's hot seat.

We're in a position now where we are fearfully? waiting to see how both he and the team handles a negative setback. Because there seems to be an unease at what may arise if or more accurately when that happens. It's like a walking on eggshells moment. And this would be the same scenario should any new manager replace Ole.

It would, although you do have a further emotional investment in it with it being Solksjaer too and you’ll want him to succeed even more.

You won’t really see until next season though and if you give him the job.