Glad you spelt "master debaters" correctly!
He would struggle to get 1 goal per season in the EPL.
First of all, he would get his legs broken in the first 15 seconds here because proper tackling is allowed here.
He would be sent off in his first match because we do not have diving here in the prem.
He would struggle with the physicality of good old proper Englishmen, we do not have poncy foreigners here in the prem.
The atmospheres at the likes of the emirates and Etihad would be too intimidating.
The pitches here in the prem are like cow fields. He would struggle to control a ball and the conditions are inhospitable for most forms of life.
He benefits from millions of pounds worth of foreign talent at Barcelona, who frequently put 4 or 5 past their opposition. He would not have this luxury if he joined the likes of Man City who struggle most weeks and certainly never win games easily.
comment by NJS (U8272)
posted 8 minutes ago
Glad you spelt "master debaters" correctly!
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usually, spelling isn't my strong point
Could Messi join Arsenal for example and make them into title winners? No, unless he's good a CB too.
Could he join Man City / Liverpool and still score 50 goals a season? Probably not 50 but in his prime he'd have done what Salah did last season on a consistent basis.
Messi is the best player I've ever seen, on TV, never watched him live....10 years ago he could have made any team in any country champions providing he had decent players around him, to support him, which he had in abundance at Barcelona...note in World Cups he wasn't seen at his best, club teams and international teams don't have much in common, players have different mentalities for both.
comment by NJS (U8272)
posted 17 minutes ago
Messi is the best player I've ever seen, on TV, never watched him live....10 years ago he could have made any team in any country champions providing he had decent players around him, to support him, which he had in abundance at Barcelona...note in World Cups he wasn't seen at his best, club teams and international teams don't have much in common, players have different mentalities for both.
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NJS... do you think he could of done what Maradona did at Napoli? - taking an average team, to title winners?
You mention Maradona, the 2nd best player I've seen, both Argentinians!
Yes I think so but the stars have to align, to coin a phrase, by that I mean Maradona had the support of the fanatical Napoli fans, so the atmosphere at games was inspirational and very loud! This no doubt inspired Maradona and his team mates for a couple of seasons, but he didn't leave any worthwhile legacy and Napoli drifted back to average Italian status.
IMAGINE if Messi went to Napoli to lead them to Serie A triumph next season over Ronaldo's Juventus.
Only mildly realistic if Pep went to Napoli and took some top players with him.
Ps...I remember when England played Italy in an International in Naples, think it was in the 80s, could be wrong....the crowd were very intimidating to England, very passionate, we lost 2 - 0.
"See Naples and die" was a popular phrase at the time
Would he score 50 goals? No because the league is tougher.
Would he take the mick and make it look easy? Yes 100%.
Makes me laugh when people say could he do it in another country when he's scored goals for fun every season in the CL.
He would destroy defences in the premier league.
comment by gelderd82 (U6817)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
Would he score 50 goals? No because the league is tougher.
Would he take the mick and make it look easy? Yes 100%.
Makes me laugh when people say could he do it in another country when he's scored goals for fun every season in the CL.
He would destroy defences in the premier league.
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there is no proof he would destroy anyone in the pl.
played his whole career on a stacked team in a weaker league.
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by gelderd82 (U6817)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
Would he score 50 goals? No because the league is tougher.
Would he take the mick and make it look easy? Yes 100%.
Makes me laugh when people say could he do it in another country when he's scored goals for fun every season in the CL.
He would destroy defences in the premier league.
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there is no proof he would destroy anyone in the pl.
played his whole career on a stacked team in a weaker league.
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You talk about proof then contradict yourself, where is the proof that Spain is a weaker league, Champions League results over the years would confirm it's a strong competition?
Please tell me you are joking Mont?
Messi fails in the prem...then destroys Man City and Spurs single handedly.
Ppl use the he aint tough argument, like those Spaniards try not to touch him, smh deluded.
Scott and Mont...deluded.
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posted on 7/2/19
Glad you spelt "master debaters" correctly!
posted on 7/2/19
100% he would
posted on 7/2/19
He would struggle to get 1 goal per season in the EPL.
First of all, he would get his legs broken in the first 15 seconds here because proper tackling is allowed here.
He would be sent off in his first match because we do not have diving here in the prem.
He would struggle with the physicality of good old proper Englishmen, we do not have poncy foreigners here in the prem.
The atmospheres at the likes of the emirates and Etihad would be too intimidating.
The pitches here in the prem are like cow fields. He would struggle to control a ball and the conditions are inhospitable for most forms of life.
He benefits from millions of pounds worth of foreign talent at Barcelona, who frequently put 4 or 5 past their opposition. He would not have this luxury if he joined the likes of Man City who struggle most weeks and certainly never win games easily.
posted on 7/2/19
comment by NJS (U8272)
posted 8 minutes ago
Glad you spelt "master debaters" correctly!
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usually, spelling isn't my strong point
posted on 7/2/19
Could Messi join Arsenal for example and make them into title winners? No, unless he's good a CB too.
Could he join Man City / Liverpool and still score 50 goals a season? Probably not 50 but in his prime he'd have done what Salah did last season on a consistent basis.
posted on 7/2/19
Messi is the best player I've ever seen, on TV, never watched him live....10 years ago he could have made any team in any country champions providing he had decent players around him, to support him, which he had in abundance at Barcelona...note in World Cups he wasn't seen at his best, club teams and international teams don't have much in common, players have different mentalities for both.
posted on 7/2/19
comment by NJS (U8272)
posted 17 minutes ago
Messi is the best player I've ever seen, on TV, never watched him live....10 years ago he could have made any team in any country champions providing he had decent players around him, to support him, which he had in abundance at Barcelona...note in World Cups he wasn't seen at his best, club teams and international teams don't have much in common, players have different mentalities for both.
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NJS... do you think he could of done what Maradona did at Napoli? - taking an average team, to title winners?
posted on 7/2/19
He’s no Jamie Vardy
posted on 7/2/19
You mention Maradona, the 2nd best player I've seen, both Argentinians!
Yes I think so but the stars have to align, to coin a phrase, by that I mean Maradona had the support of the fanatical Napoli fans, so the atmosphere at games was inspirational and very loud! This no doubt inspired Maradona and his team mates for a couple of seasons, but he didn't leave any worthwhile legacy and Napoli drifted back to average Italian status.
posted on 7/2/19
IMAGINE if Messi went to Napoli to lead them to Serie A triumph next season over Ronaldo's Juventus.
Only mildly realistic if Pep went to Napoli and took some top players with him.
posted on 7/2/19
Ps...I remember when England played Italy in an International in Naples, think it was in the 80s, could be wrong....the crowd were very intimidating to England, very passionate, we lost 2 - 0.
"See Naples and die" was a popular phrase at the time
posted on 7/2/19
Would he score 50 goals? No because the league is tougher.
Would he take the mick and make it look easy? Yes 100%.
Makes me laugh when people say could he do it in another country when he's scored goals for fun every season in the CL.
He would destroy defences in the premier league.
posted on 7/2/19
comment by gelderd82 (U6817)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
Would he score 50 goals? No because the league is tougher.
Would he take the mick and make it look easy? Yes 100%.
Makes me laugh when people say could he do it in another country when he's scored goals for fun every season in the CL.
He would destroy defences in the premier league.
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there is no proof he would destroy anyone in the pl.
played his whole career on a stacked team in a weaker league.
posted on 7/2/19
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by gelderd82 (U6817)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
Would he score 50 goals? No because the league is tougher.
Would he take the mick and make it look easy? Yes 100%.
Makes me laugh when people say could he do it in another country when he's scored goals for fun every season in the CL.
He would destroy defences in the premier league.
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there is no proof he would destroy anyone in the pl.
played his whole career on a stacked team in a weaker league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You talk about proof then contradict yourself, where is the proof that Spain is a weaker league, Champions League results over the years would confirm it's a strong competition?
posted on 7/2/19
Please tell me you are joking Mont?
posted on 8/2/19
Messi fails in the prem...then destroys Man City and Spurs single handedly.
Ppl use the he aint tough argument, like those Spaniards try not to touch him, smh deluded.
Scott and Mont...deluded.
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