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comment by MaidinLeeds (U2464)
posted 19 minutes ago
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I geniunely think it is now. My tin hat is on. Based on referee performance, treatment for EFL this season to spygate and Jansson. Mings not even getting a yellow for a stamp ten times worse than Cooper last season who was banned 6 games.
Anybody know Harvey's address? I need a word, face to face.
You watch, they'll release a statement just before the first of the 3 matches in 6 days, which in itself is outrageous. By that time they'll be hoping we get nothing tomorrow at Boro and we'll struggle against Swansea. A hefty fine plus a touchline ban for MB lasting 3 or 4 games which would include Bristol City will leave them feeling smug about a job well done.
I don't trust the EFL - they'll do everything possible to put a spanner into our promotion push, and this delay suggests they've got nothing they can pin on the club officially. More likely they're playing for time to scrape the bottom of the barrel to come up with something that will stick, to make an example. I've detested this organisation ever since the days of that vindictive, nasty piece of work Alan Hardaker. What he imposed on us in 1972 after the Cup Final was inexcusable, avoidable, and completely unnecessary. Nearly half a century later and nothing much has changed.
Call me bitter and paranoid - I don't care. The EFL are not the paragons of virtue they think they are. Double standards and all that, over and over again.
Having got all that off my chest, I'm aching to be proved wrong.
Elland, when they've got Shaun Harvey a man who has overseen 2 admins and worked with crooks, we cannot rule anything out.
If the decision is with the Board, then this must mean that no rule has been broken as penalties for rule breaches are not decided by the board.
No points deduction will happen.
comment by middlesexwhite (U4520)
posted 12 hours, 11 minutes ago
If the decision is with the Board, then this must mean that no rule has been broken as penalties for rule breaches are not decided by the board.
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There may not have been any rules broken in the Derby instance, but what about the 22 other occasions where Bielsa sent someone to watch the opposition train? I suspect the delay is because the EFL is putting together a portfolio of events to their legal team to consider the next course of action. A delay of this duration can only mean that there is much worse to come, in my view.
From today's Times:
"The mysterious figure at the centre of the “Spygate” scandal — a 20-year-old intern brought to Leeds United by Marcelo Bielsa, the manager — was spending 24 hours before matches conducting undercover reconnaissance in the towns and cities of the club’s forthcoming opponents before being caught outside the Derby County training ground last month.
Rather than simply spying on opponents, this remarkable scouting operation represented an attempt to get under the skin of every aspect of Leeds’ Championship rivals, which, in their submissions to the EFL, the club attribute to youthful enthusiasm.
Throughout the season the Leeds intern has spent time around every Championship club from Swansea City to Middlesbrough, talking to fans, drinking in pubs and consuming local media to gain an insight into how the opposition fans would react during matches, as well as attempting to observe training.
The EFL has asked Leeds to provide more details before deciding whether to charge them, but, contrary to complaints from Derby, they have not found any evidence of him breaking into a training ground, while Derbyshire Constabulary took no action after speaking to him last month. Rather than possessing bolt-cutters, as alleged by the Derby manager Frank Lampard, the police found secateurs in his car."
My opinion is that this has been hyped up beyond reason, but I don't trust the EFL to be objective or fair. I suspect whatever their verdict, it will need to pass the Sky Sports hysteria test.
Throughout the season the Leeds intern has spent time around every Championship club from Swansea City to Middlesbrough, talking to fans, drinking in pubs and consuming local media to gain an insight into how the opposition fans would react during matches, as well as attempting to observe training.
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I always try and look at stuff like this with my shoe on the other foot hat on (cause I love to mix my metaphors)
And again, this is something that makes me love the boss and the scout even more.
If another club sent a scout to look and study every aspect of Leeds, including talking to the fans in pubs and trying to get an idea of what it means to be Leeds id congratulate them and in all honesty probably buy them a beer while I rant at him for an hour about how much the club means to me and why.
Could you imagine the info that another club would get from coming on here!
Return to the manager and he asks what did you learn? Well it’s unclear but half off the fans appear to be supporting a different club to the other. I can’t work out if they are top or bottom of the league.
But if he takes his secateurs with him, he can give Bielsa a bunch of flowers.
Something does not add up here.
Bielsa tells us it doesn’t matter who plays for opponents how style of our play always the same etc.
Now we hear our spy is talking to fans etc, something does not add up.
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 6 hours, 43 minutes ago
Could you imagine the info that another club would get from coming on here!
Return to the manager and he asks what did you learn? Well it’s unclear but half off the fans appear to be supporting a different club to the other. I can’t work out if they are top or bottom of the league.
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posted on 8/2/19
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posted on 8/2/19
comment by MaidinLeeds (U2464)
posted 19 minutes ago
https://thisisfutbol.com/2019/02/blogs/durham-spygate-statement-is-a-conspiracy/
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I geniunely think it is now. My tin hat is on. Based on referee performance, treatment for EFL this season to spygate and Jansson. Mings not even getting a yellow for a stamp ten times worse than Cooper last season who was banned 6 games.
posted on 8/2/19
Anybody know Harvey's address? I need a word, face to face.
posted on 8/2/19
You watch, they'll release a statement just before the first of the 3 matches in 6 days, which in itself is outrageous. By that time they'll be hoping we get nothing tomorrow at Boro and we'll struggle against Swansea. A hefty fine plus a touchline ban for MB lasting 3 or 4 games which would include Bristol City will leave them feeling smug about a job well done.
I don't trust the EFL - they'll do everything possible to put a spanner into our promotion push, and this delay suggests they've got nothing they can pin on the club officially. More likely they're playing for time to scrape the bottom of the barrel to come up with something that will stick, to make an example. I've detested this organisation ever since the days of that vindictive, nasty piece of work Alan Hardaker. What he imposed on us in 1972 after the Cup Final was inexcusable, avoidable, and completely unnecessary. Nearly half a century later and nothing much has changed.
Call me bitter and paranoid - I don't care. The EFL are not the paragons of virtue they think they are. Double standards and all that, over and over again.
Having got all that off my chest, I'm aching to be proved wrong.
posted on 8/2/19
Elland, when they've got Shaun Harvey a man who has overseen 2 admins and worked with crooks, we cannot rule anything out.
posted on 8/2/19
If the decision is with the Board, then this must mean that no rule has been broken as penalties for rule breaches are not decided by the board.
posted on 8/2/19
No points deduction will happen.
posted on 9/2/19
comment by middlesexwhite (U4520)
posted 12 hours, 11 minutes ago
If the decision is with the Board, then this must mean that no rule has been broken as penalties for rule breaches are not decided by the board.
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There may not have been any rules broken in the Derby instance, but what about the 22 other occasions where Bielsa sent someone to watch the opposition train? I suspect the delay is because the EFL is putting together a portfolio of events to their legal team to consider the next course of action. A delay of this duration can only mean that there is much worse to come, in my view.
posted on 9/2/19
From today's Times:
"The mysterious figure at the centre of the “Spygate” scandal — a 20-year-old intern brought to Leeds United by Marcelo Bielsa, the manager — was spending 24 hours before matches conducting undercover reconnaissance in the towns and cities of the club’s forthcoming opponents before being caught outside the Derby County training ground last month.
Rather than simply spying on opponents, this remarkable scouting operation represented an attempt to get under the skin of every aspect of Leeds’ Championship rivals, which, in their submissions to the EFL, the club attribute to youthful enthusiasm.
Throughout the season the Leeds intern has spent time around every Championship club from Swansea City to Middlesbrough, talking to fans, drinking in pubs and consuming local media to gain an insight into how the opposition fans would react during matches, as well as attempting to observe training.
The EFL has asked Leeds to provide more details before deciding whether to charge them, but, contrary to complaints from Derby, they have not found any evidence of him breaking into a training ground, while Derbyshire Constabulary took no action after speaking to him last month. Rather than possessing bolt-cutters, as alleged by the Derby manager Frank Lampard, the police found secateurs in his car."
My opinion is that this has been hyped up beyond reason, but I don't trust the EFL to be objective or fair. I suspect whatever their verdict, it will need to pass the Sky Sports hysteria test.
posted on 9/2/19
^. ^. ^
Good comments!
posted on 9/2/19
Throughout the season the Leeds intern has spent time around every Championship club from Swansea City to Middlesbrough, talking to fans, drinking in pubs and consuming local media to gain an insight into how the opposition fans would react during matches, as well as attempting to observe training.
______
I always try and look at stuff like this with my shoe on the other foot hat on (cause I love to mix my metaphors)
And again, this is something that makes me love the boss and the scout even more.
If another club sent a scout to look and study every aspect of Leeds, including talking to the fans in pubs and trying to get an idea of what it means to be Leeds id congratulate them and in all honesty probably buy them a beer while I rant at him for an hour about how much the club means to me and why.
posted on 9/2/19
Could you imagine the info that another club would get from coming on here!
Return to the manager and he asks what did you learn? Well it’s unclear but half off the fans appear to be supporting a different club to the other. I can’t work out if they are top or bottom of the league.
posted on 9/2/19
But if he takes his secateurs with him, he can give Bielsa a bunch of flowers.
posted on 9/2/19
Something does not add up here.
Bielsa tells us it doesn’t matter who plays for opponents how style of our play always the same etc.
Now we hear our spy is talking to fans etc, something does not add up.
posted on 9/2/19
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 6 hours, 43 minutes ago
Could you imagine the info that another club would get from coming on here!
Return to the manager and he asks what did you learn? Well it’s unclear but half off the fans appear to be supporting a different club to the other. I can’t work out if they are top or bottom of the league.
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