Henry
Bergkamp
Aguero
Drogba
Shearer
In that order
Shearer would have banged in many more for Utd than he did for Newcastle, who for part of his career were an ok team.
My top 5 strikers
Henry
Aguero
Shearer
Suarez
Drogba
I never saw Bergkamp as a striker. Great great player though.
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
Not at all silly. Why isn't Andy Cole considered the best ever? Terrific record and has actually won a Champions league.
Augero is one of the best strikers in and around the box. And the players he is surrounded by are some of the most expensive ever accumulated. They spoon feed him chances every game. You can't compare him with Shearer, Henry or Drogba. They were complete players.
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Lol Andy Cole is nowhere near the strikers named which is why his name isn’t brought up. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well that was my point wasn't it?
Being prolific shouldn't be the only criteria that a complete striker is judged by. And when it comes to it in my opinion a system striker, ie one who scores when the system creates for him has less influence on the team than some one who holds the up ball and draws others into the game, or someone who can create a chance out of nothing from the half way line or a striker who assists as well scores.
There is no doubt Augero is a brilliant player. One of the best around at what he does, ie scores goals. But would he be the same player if he didn't have cast that costs £500m every season? I doubt it. Don't you think he should have won Champions League by now with the amount of money City spend every year for almost the last decade? Why couldn't he carry the team like many of those players in the past have done?
If anything, he’s a little overrated - based on people just looking at box-scores from games like yesterday.
He’s a great predator in the box, but as an all-round offensive player, he’s not as good as Henry. I don’t think he’s even as good as Salah.
Great PL goals/mins ratio but only 1 PL Golden Boot and 0 European Golden Shoes. Spotty international and CL record, and no international or CL titles on his resumé.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
Not at all silly. Why isn't Andy Cole considered the best ever? Terrific record and has actually won a Champions league.
Augero is one of the best strikers in and around the box. And the players he is surrounded by are some of the most expensive ever accumulated. They spoon feed him chances every game. You can't compare him with Shearer, Henry or Drogba. They were complete players.
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Lol Andy Cole is nowhere near the strikers named which is why his name isn’t brought up. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well that was my point wasn't it?
Being prolific shouldn't be the only criteria that a complete striker is judged by. And when it comes to it in my opinion a system striker, ie one who scores when the system creates for him has less influence on the team than some one who holds the up ball and draws others into the game, or someone who can create a chance out of nothing from the half way line or a striker who assists as well scores.
There is no doubt Augero is a brilliant player. One of the best around at what he does, ie scores goals. But would he be the same player if he didn't have cast that costs £500m every season? I doubt it. Don't you think he should have won Champions League by now with the amount of money City spend every year for almost the last decade? Why couldn't he carry the team like many of those players in the past have done?
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Another extremely silly comment. In what works does his inability to win a cl count agansut him when 1) the conversation was around greatest premier league strikers and 2) a CL win is a team achievement. Henry didn’t win one until he joined one of the greatest teams of all time as a supporting player. Why are you not using that against him? It’s such an American way of looking at individual achievement. Completely silly.
Of course he’s benefitted from being in good teams, but so have every striker mentioned. Shearer, who I disagree with Bats about (Blackburn Shearer before the 1998 injuries was basically Drogba who scored way more frequently) is the only great who you could argue didn’t have the advantage of the best teams around him. What Aguerro has never had though until now is a consistently of style compared to the others given that he’s played under three different managed in a number of different styles - Mancini’s conservative two up top, Pellegrinis buccaneering two up top that turned into one up once Negredo fell off the earth and now Pep’s team. He’s shown adaptability and aceilling to alter his style to fit the whim of what is pivoted around him. A modern day Romario. If you can’t see this, you really can’t be helped.
Henry didn’t win one until he joined one of the greatest teams of all time as a supporting player. Why are you not using that against him? It’s such an American way of looking at individual achievement. Completely silly.
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I stopped there. I assume you didn't watch Barca much in those days if you think Henry was just a 'supporting player'.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Henry didn’t win one until he joined one of the greatest teams of all time as a supporting player. Why are you not using that against him? It’s such an American way of looking at individual achievement. Completely silly.
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I stopped there. I assume you didn't watch Barca much in those days if you think Henry was just a 'supporting player'.
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Of course you stopped there. Because you’re previous posts have been shown up for what they were. Silly. You’re an excellent poster, but your comments throughout this thread have been way off the mark.
And yes, Henry, whilst an important part of that attacking triumvirate, was a support player in a team built around the playmaking ability of Xavi, the ball carrying skills of Iniesta, the marUding full backs who’s width and understanding of maintaining those vertical thirds allowed the wide forwards immeasurable opportunities to do their thing, and of course Messi and Eto’o. Henry was excellent, but the team wasn’t built around him, he was a support player in a cast of superstars, hence why bloody Pedro (another support player in that system) so easily displaced him the following year despite not possessing a 1/10th of Henry’s talent or ability.
Now, stop being silly. You’re better then this p iss poor argument you’re standing by.
He's only under rated by those that don't have a clue about football... you'll find the same people banging on about how good Aubamyamg is... it's a dead give away.
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posted on 11/2/19
Henry
Bergkamp
Aguero
Drogba
Shearer
In that order
posted on 11/2/19
Shearer would have banged in many more for Utd than he did for Newcastle, who for part of his career were an ok team.
My top 5 strikers
Henry
Aguero
Shearer
Suarez
Drogba
I never saw Bergkamp as a striker. Great great player though.
posted on 11/2/19
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
Not at all silly. Why isn't Andy Cole considered the best ever? Terrific record and has actually won a Champions league.
Augero is one of the best strikers in and around the box. And the players he is surrounded by are some of the most expensive ever accumulated. They spoon feed him chances every game. You can't compare him with Shearer, Henry or Drogba. They were complete players.
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Lol Andy Cole is nowhere near the strikers named which is why his name isn’t brought up. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well that was my point wasn't it?
Being prolific shouldn't be the only criteria that a complete striker is judged by. And when it comes to it in my opinion a system striker, ie one who scores when the system creates for him has less influence on the team than some one who holds the up ball and draws others into the game, or someone who can create a chance out of nothing from the half way line or a striker who assists as well scores.
There is no doubt Augero is a brilliant player. One of the best around at what he does, ie scores goals. But would he be the same player if he didn't have cast that costs £500m every season? I doubt it. Don't you think he should have won Champions League by now with the amount of money City spend every year for almost the last decade? Why couldn't he carry the team like many of those players in the past have done?
posted on 11/2/19
If anything, he’s a little overrated - based on people just looking at box-scores from games like yesterday.
He’s a great predator in the box, but as an all-round offensive player, he’s not as good as Henry. I don’t think he’s even as good as Salah.
Great PL goals/mins ratio but only 1 PL Golden Boot and 0 European Golden Shoes. Spotty international and CL record, and no international or CL titles on his resumé.
posted on 11/2/19
posted on 12/2/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
Not at all silly. Why isn't Andy Cole considered the best ever? Terrific record and has actually won a Champions league.
Augero is one of the best strikers in and around the box. And the players he is surrounded by are some of the most expensive ever accumulated. They spoon feed him chances every game. You can't compare him with Shearer, Henry or Drogba. They were complete players.
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Lol Andy Cole is nowhere near the strikers named which is why his name isn’t brought up. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well that was my point wasn't it?
Being prolific shouldn't be the only criteria that a complete striker is judged by. And when it comes to it in my opinion a system striker, ie one who scores when the system creates for him has less influence on the team than some one who holds the up ball and draws others into the game, or someone who can create a chance out of nothing from the half way line or a striker who assists as well scores.
There is no doubt Augero is a brilliant player. One of the best around at what he does, ie scores goals. But would he be the same player if he didn't have cast that costs £500m every season? I doubt it. Don't you think he should have won Champions League by now with the amount of money City spend every year for almost the last decade? Why couldn't he carry the team like many of those players in the past have done?
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Another extremely silly comment. In what works does his inability to win a cl count agansut him when 1) the conversation was around greatest premier league strikers and 2) a CL win is a team achievement. Henry didn’t win one until he joined one of the greatest teams of all time as a supporting player. Why are you not using that against him? It’s such an American way of looking at individual achievement. Completely silly.
Of course he’s benefitted from being in good teams, but so have every striker mentioned. Shearer, who I disagree with Bats about (Blackburn Shearer before the 1998 injuries was basically Drogba who scored way more frequently) is the only great who you could argue didn’t have the advantage of the best teams around him. What Aguerro has never had though until now is a consistently of style compared to the others given that he’s played under three different managed in a number of different styles - Mancini’s conservative two up top, Pellegrinis buccaneering two up top that turned into one up once Negredo fell off the earth and now Pep’s team. He’s shown adaptability and aceilling to alter his style to fit the whim of what is pivoted around him. A modern day Romario. If you can’t see this, you really can’t be helped.
posted on 12/2/19
Henry didn’t win one until he joined one of the greatest teams of all time as a supporting player. Why are you not using that against him? It’s such an American way of looking at individual achievement. Completely silly.
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I stopped there. I assume you didn't watch Barca much in those days if you think Henry was just a 'supporting player'.
posted on 12/2/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Henry didn’t win one until he joined one of the greatest teams of all time as a supporting player. Why are you not using that against him? It’s such an American way of looking at individual achievement. Completely silly.
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I stopped there. I assume you didn't watch Barca much in those days if you think Henry was just a 'supporting player'.
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Of course you stopped there. Because you’re previous posts have been shown up for what they were. Silly. You’re an excellent poster, but your comments throughout this thread have been way off the mark.
And yes, Henry, whilst an important part of that attacking triumvirate, was a support player in a team built around the playmaking ability of Xavi, the ball carrying skills of Iniesta, the marUding full backs who’s width and understanding of maintaining those vertical thirds allowed the wide forwards immeasurable opportunities to do their thing, and of course Messi and Eto’o. Henry was excellent, but the team wasn’t built around him, he was a support player in a cast of superstars, hence why bloody Pedro (another support player in that system) so easily displaced him the following year despite not possessing a 1/10th of Henry’s talent or ability.
Now, stop being silly. You’re better then this p iss poor argument you’re standing by.
posted on 12/2/19
He's only under rated by those that don't have a clue about football... you'll find the same people banging on about how good Aubamyamg is... it's a dead give away.
posted on 17/2/19
5 star article for me!
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