comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 26 minutes ago
There hasn't been a good news programme since John Craven's newsround
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Bbc I’d trust more than anyone, and even they are not completely impartial.
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I don't trust the BBC anywhere as much as I used to. The whole Saville/Hall cover ups have massively eroded my confidence in them, as has their reporting of Brexit.
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Can understand that, but I’d still trust them more than mouthpieces for corporate empires(sky/fox, or rt, for state). It’s a sad thing that news, is generally at the mercy of political ideology, but I guess that’s capitalism. The bbc by nature should be exempt from this, and largely are, but seem to have swing a little off centre, but they still are one of the few that don’t have an obvious slant.
Just watching programme on Byzantine era on Constantinople where a Christian city was attacked by the Ottoman muslim warriors to remove cross worshippers ....this was repeated throughout the birthplace of Christianity in the middle East where once Christian Syria and Iraq were largely cleansed of Christians.....right up to now when Isis butchered or converted Mosul Christians.
Begum is just another Islamist jihadist trying to make their version of Islam all powerful.
When Catholic and protestant were killing each other I did not hear people say they were not religious fanatics or Christian fundamentalist or bigots.
When Buddhists attack Muslims they are still Buddhist.
When Sikh and Hindu clash nobody says it is not sectarian.
However, if Islamist extremists preach death to Jews, infidels and demand sharia law or a caliphate that is nothing to do with religion, Islam or Muslims?
As Islamist Turkey wiped out Armenians or as soldiers representing Islam removed Christianity from Iraq and Palestine and Syria...... so today we see Christians murdered and oppressed in mainly muslim
lands across the world.
Begum backed that militant ideology then wants to return to liberal and historically Christian UK.
Hypocrite.
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 26 minutes ago
There hasn't been a good news programme since John Craven's newsround
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Bbc I’d trust more than anyone, and even they are not completely impartial.
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I don't trust the BBC anywhere as much as I used to. The whole Saville/Hall cover ups have massively eroded my confidence in them, as has their reporting of Brexit.
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Ironically, it’s Sky that has been grilling the frauds in parliament over Brexit and uncovering all their lies whilst the BBC have been pandering to them for the last three years. Look at the likes of Marr, Neil, Bruce and Kuensburrg when they’re interviewing Labour MP’s in comparison to the Tories.
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BBC are not Tory or Brexit friendly.
Left leaning and liberal to the point of overtly being obsessed by identity politics of gender race and sexuality.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 26 minutes ago
There hasn't been a good news programme since John Craven's newsround
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Bbc I’d trust more than anyone, and even they are not completely impartial.
------
I don't trust the BBC anywhere as much as I used to. The whole Saville/Hall cover ups have massively eroded my confidence in them, as has their reporting of Brexit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ironically, it’s Sky that has been grilling the frauds in parliament over Brexit and uncovering all their lies whilst the BBC have been pandering to them for the last three years. Look at the likes of Marr, Neil, Bruce and Kuensburrg when they’re interviewing Labour MP’s in comparison to the Tories.
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BBC are not Tory or Brexit friendly.
Left leaning and liberal to the point of overtly being obsessed by identity politics of gender race and sexuality.
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Don’t agree. Maybe slightly left of centre, which to a fox viewer might as well be communism. I believe the bbc, in particular political editor were accused of pro Tory bias during the election.
Ironically, it’s Sky that has been grilling the frauds in parliament over Brexit and uncovering all their lies whilst the BBC have been pandering to them for the last three years. Look at the likes of Marr, Neil, Bruce and Kuensburrg when they’re interviewing Labour MP’s in comparison to the Tories.
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I’d ask why. What angle are they trying to masquerade as?
I believe sky news are ‘meant’ to be impartial. But they aren’t. I don’t tbink it’s even murdoch in charge now, Comcast bought them, so expect to see some left leaning.
I’d ask why. What angle are they trying to masquerade as?
Government influence of course, they own a huge chunk of the BBC. It’s a platform for them to try and brainwash the population into thinking Brexit is a great idea.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
Just watching programme on Byzantine era on Constantinople where a Christian city was attacked by the Ottoman muslim warriors to remove cross worshippers ....this was repeated throughout the birthplace of Christianity in the middle East where once Christian Syria and Iraq were largely cleansed of Christians.....right up to now when Isis butchered or converted Mosul Christians.
Begum is just another Islamist jihadist trying to make their version of Islam all powerful.
When Catholic and protestant were killing each other I did not hear people say they were not religious fanatics or Christian fundamentalist or bigots.
When Buddhists attack Muslims they are still Buddhist.
When Sikh and Hindu clash nobody says it is not sectarian.
However, if Islamist extremists preach death to Jews, infidels and demand sharia law or a caliphate that is nothing to do with religion, Islam or Muslims?
As Islamist Turkey wiped out Armenians or as soldiers representing Islam removed Christianity from Iraq and Palestine and Syria...... so today we see Christians murdered and oppressed in mainly muslim
lands across the world.
Begum backed that militant ideology then wants to return to liberal and historically Christian UK.
Hypocrite.
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Historically Christian? Well in recent years I guess, yes.
We're now by majority without religion, of course, and that trend is heading in only one direction; and across the ages predominately polytheisticly pagan or animist, rather than Christian.
But I guess history will show a short period of Christian predominance.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
Just watching programme on Byzantine era on Constantinople where a Christian city was attacked by the Ottoman muslim warriors to remove cross worshippers ....this was repeated throughout the birthplace of Christianity in the middle East where once Christian Syria and Iraq were largely cleansed of Christians.....right up to now when Isis butchered or converted Mosul Christians.
Begum is just another Islamist jihadist trying to make their version of Islam all powerful.
When Catholic and protestant were killing each other I did not hear people say they were not religious fanatics or Christian fundamentalist or bigots.
When Buddhists attack Muslims they are still Buddhist.
When Sikh and Hindu clash nobody says it is not sectarian.
However, if Islamist extremists preach death to Jews, infidels and demand sharia law or a caliphate that is nothing to do with religion, Islam or Muslims?
As Islamist Turkey wiped out Armenians or as soldiers representing Islam removed Christianity from Iraq and Palestine and Syria...... so today we see Christians murdered and oppressed in mainly muslim
lands across the world.
Begum backed that militant ideology then wants to return to liberal and historically Christian UK.
Hypocrite.
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and there in that ramble, is TBAB trying to.make a strong association between all muslims and isis, only latterly putting a line about the OP to appear relevant.
btw the birthplace of Christianity is Palestine. Where descendents from the first Christians on earth still live. Of course they are Palestinan and therefore suffer apartheid policies against them by Israel.
Note that TBAB is an avid supporter of Israel and its policies.
He does shout hypocrite a lot. Takes one to know one I guess.
Bluebells how did the conversation get on to the crusades LOL?
This is why I asked you to stick to the topic of the girl, now this conversation is everywhere.
The era in which you are talking about was an era of empires, you either swallow up an empire or you get swallowed up your self.
You do know that the Byzantine Empire was part of the Roman Empire right? An empire built on expansion, so your fellow "Christians" were already conquering or had already conquered a lot of the planet. Why no mention of this?
No mention from you about Christians in Spain slaughtering Jews during the inquisition. The Ottoman Empire sent their entire navy to save them.
No talk of what the Christians did to Jews and Muslims in Palestine when they conquered Jerusalem?
The Christian Priest wrote about the Muslims who were killed... "In this temple 10,000 were killed. Indeed, if you had been there you would have seen our feet coloured to our ankles with the blood of the slain. But what more shall I relate? None of them were left alive; neither women nor children were spared."
Ibn al-Qalanisi an Arab politician and chronicler wrote of the Jews "The Jews assembled in their synagogue, and the Franks burned it over their heads."
ALL OF THIS IS IRRELEVANT THOUGH.
Muslims don't use the example of these Muslims to practise our religion, the only example we use is that of Muhammad (pbuh)
So if any Muslim has done anything wrong between now and 1400 ago, it is very easy for me to admit to it. The Armenian Genocide for example was one of those things, the rise of Daesh is also something else.
You are cherry picking parts of history to falsely illustrate why Islamic creed is inherently evil and then attributing it to events happening today. This is a pointless exercise because you still haven't backed up anything with Islamic text.
Please look at your own religion with the same critical eye.
The Ottomans ruled for hundreds of years, they were a power house, if anything bad happened on their watch, it was probably their fault. This isn't hard to admit.
The Middle-East with exception to Israel, no longer holds that power, the western world does and with power comes corruption. You'ed do well to judge western governments and your fellow Christians with the same critical eye you've judged Muslims with through out history.
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 26 minutes ago
There hasn't been a good news programme since John Craven's newsround
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Bbc I’d trust more than anyone, and even they are not completely impartial.
------
I don't trust the BBC anywhere as much as I used to. The whole Saville/Hall cover ups have massively eroded my confidence in them, as has their reporting of Brexit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ironically, it’s Sky that has been grilling the frauds in parliament over Brexit and uncovering all their lies whilst the BBC have been pandering to them for the last three years. Look at the likes of Marr, Neil, Bruce and Kuensburrg when they’re interviewing Labour MP’s in comparison to the Tories.
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BBC are not Tory or Brexit friendly.
Left leaning and liberal to the point of overtly being obsessed by identity politics of gender race and sexuality.
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Don’t agree. Maybe slightly left of centre, which to a fox viewer might as well be communism. I believe the bbc, in particular political editor were accused of pro Tory bias during the election.
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You posted exactly what I said.....I said the BBC were left leaning and liberal...you said the BBC were left of centre.
Do people read anymore.
I watch and read all sorts of opinion and Fox is one source as I enjoyed there Five debates where conservative and democrat talked about events.
Unlike CNN just ranting about the Trumpet 24/7.
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 9 hours ago
Ironically, it’s Sky that has been grilling the frauds in parliament over Brexit and uncovering all their lies whilst the BBC have been pandering to them for the last three years. Look at the likes of Marr, Neil, Bruce and Kuensburrg when they’re interviewing Labour MP’s in comparison to the Tories.
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I’d ask why. What angle are they trying to masquerade as?
I believe sky news are ‘meant’ to be impartial. But they aren’t. I don’t tbink it’s even murdoch in charge now, Comcast bought them, so expect to see some left leaning.
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Kfc will remind you to get back on Begum topic.
Nothing wrong with left leaning as I would be on certain topics...however some portray BBC as right wing unionist and brexit friendly.
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 8 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
Just watching programme on Byzantine era on Constantinople where a Christian city was attacked by the Ottoman muslim warriors to remove cross worshippers ....this was repeated throughout the birthplace of Christianity in the middle East where once Christian Syria and Iraq were largely cleansed of Christians.....right up to now when Isis butchered or converted Mosul Christians.
Begum is just another Islamist jihadist trying to make their version of Islam all powerful.
When Catholic and protestant were killing each other I did not hear people say they were not religious fanatics or Christian fundamentalist or bigots.
When Buddhists attack Muslims they are still Buddhist.
When Sikh and Hindu clash nobody says it is not sectarian.
However, if Islamist extremists preach death to Jews, infidels and demand sharia law or a caliphate that is nothing to do with religion, Islam or Muslims?
As Islamist Turkey wiped out Armenians or as soldiers representing Islam removed Christianity from Iraq and Palestine and Syria...... so today we see Christians murdered and oppressed in mainly muslim
lands across the world.
Begum backed that militant ideology then wants to return to liberal and historically Christian UK.
Hypocrite.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Historically Christian? Well in recent years I guess, yes.
We're now by majority without religion, of course, and that trend is heading in only one direction; and across the ages predominately polytheisticly pagan or animist, rather than Christian.
But I guess history will show a short period of Christian predominance.
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Our modern history has benefited from Christian influence in education, Industrial revolution, saving, hard work, fairness, NHS, charity, science, liberal democracy from the age of Enlightenment, physical and mental strength etc.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 7 hours ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
Just watching programme on Byzantine era on Constantinople where a Christian city was attacked by the Ottoman muslim warriors to remove cross worshippers ....this was repeated throughout the birthplace of Christianity in the middle East where once Christian Syria and Iraq were largely cleansed of Christians.....right up to now when Isis butchered or converted Mosul Christians.
Begum is just another Islamist jihadist trying to make their version of Islam all powerful.
When Catholic and protestant were killing each other I did not hear people say they were not religious fanatics or Christian fundamentalist or bigots.
When Buddhists attack Muslims they are still Buddhist.
When Sikh and Hindu clash nobody says it is not sectarian.
However, if Islamist extremists preach death to Jews, infidels and demand sharia law or a caliphate that is nothing to do with religion, Islam or Muslims?
As Islamist Turkey wiped out Armenians or as soldiers representing Islam removed Christianity from Iraq and Palestine and Syria...... so today we see Christians murdered and oppressed in mainly muslim
lands across the world.
Begum backed that militant ideology then wants to return to liberal and historically Christian UK.
Hypocrite.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
and there in that ramble, is TBAB trying to.make a strong association between all muslims and isis, only latterly putting a line about the OP to appear relevant.
btw the birthplace of Christianity is Palestine. Where descendents from the first Christians on earth still live. Of course they are Palestinan and therefore suffer apartheid policies against them by Israel.
Note that TBAB is an avid supporter of Israel and its policies.
He does shout hypocrite a lot. Takes one to know one I guess.
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Muslims fought with us against our enenmies last century and today... as kung fu
said ...I back the peshmerga Kurds who are muslim.
Muslim medics look after my family and improve British society with their study,hard work and strong family culture.
I voted leave with Muslims who I have more in common with than some non muslim remainers
Kfc.
Was literally watching Byzantine documentary with mum as daughter kicked me out of the house for her sleepover
🤔
As your reply is long I will deal with the first part....the programme was A Tale of Three Cities between "Latins/Romans, Greek Orthodox locals and the muslim section.
I know how romans treated locals as Latins and Greeks grew to hate each other even though Latins came to "crusade".
I know Christians did wrong and You use the term Christian.....even though people cannot use the term muslim or Islamist or militant jihadist?????
Why do you feel ok using Christian to describe Spanish persecution of Jews or protestants.....did the bible tell them to do so or was the Inquisition doin God's work spreading peace and love?
I have no problem accepting hard line cross worshippers distorted Christian faith to oppress but you and others do not accept that Islamist hardliners do so in the name of Islam in their twisted view.
Can you see this massive contradiction?.
Fundamentalist Christians were bad...accepted.
FundsmentslistMuslim/Islamist/isis...Nothing to do with Islam.
You get me, right.
😊
Kfc and Red.
I do not give Israel or Christians or the West a blank cheque.
I know Christian hardliners were evil at times and I opposed most western intervention in modern day ME and Afghanistan, even though nobody said how we should defeat the Taliban or Isis without going in.The Blair regime change idea was flawed...end of.
I support Israel's right to exist and the two state option....not their govt.
Try not to paint me as some daft EDL islamophobe, guys.😉
I do not hate Muslims...why would I?
Let her comeback with her tail between her legs. shes begging to return. after her religious puritan ideology was destroyed before her eyes.. that's enough embarrassment for anyone to handle.
Who cares if her typical beliefs hate what the west stands for shes being made a fool off. which is quite funny.. so again let her come home.
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 45 minutes ago
Let her comeback with her tail between her legs. shes begging to return. after her religious puritan ideology was destroyed before her eyes.. that's enough embarrassment for anyone to handle.
Who cares if her typical beliefs hate what the west stands for shes being made a fool off. which is quite funny.. so again let her come home.
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America says they are pulling out and kurds cannot look after 800 euro jihadists so eevmay have to take Begum and hundreds of others back...or they go free.
However, it is not easy to prosecute returning fighters as evidence is in Syria and Iraq.. so we have 400 odd returned militants roaming about?
A mess.
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Let her comeback with her tail between her legs. shes begging to return. after her religious puritan ideology was destroyed before her eyes.. that's enough embarrassment for anyone to handle.
Who cares if her typical beliefs hate what the west stands for shes being made a fool off. which is quite funny.. so again let her come home.
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Ok then, rehouse her in Liverpool, give her a house benefits police guard and round the clock supervision at the Liverpool tax payers expense.
A child is born.
Baby Begum has arrived...can we take the boy in?
comment by MBL. (U6305)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Let her comeback with her tail between her legs. shes begging to return. after her religious puritan ideology was destroyed before her eyes.. that's enough embarrassment for anyone to handle.
Who cares if her typical beliefs hate what the west stands for shes being made a fool off. which is quite funny.. so again let her come home.
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Ok then, rehouse her in Liverpool, give her a house benefits police guard and round the clock supervision at the Liverpool tax payers expense.
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Need a bigger house as there are hundreds
home.
What is wrong with a Gitmo or Alcatraz style prison for the euro jihadis?
Sending them to Liverpool is just cruel.
😉
Christians in Palestine.
I realize they are a minority there now after the birthplace of Christianity changed demographically....Jewish people were there first of course.
I have heard some young Zionist guys have sprayed stuff in church walls but compared to how islamists murder Christians across the world it is hardly a good comparison.
I do not think Christians want to wipe Israel out either.
As stated I would prefer a two state solution and no Hamas violence or IDF response.
Then Christian, jew and muslim can live in peace in the region.
Of you would like to show me global Jewish terror groups or Christian terror groups today Red...go ahead.
Where is the Jewish or christian taliban or deash killing other faith groups and non believers for political and religious causes!?
Why is it ok to have around 22 mainly muslim states, but the one mainly Jewish state that gets all your attention and criticism!?
comment by MBL. (U6305)
posted 4 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Let her comeback with her tail between her legs. shes begging to return. after her religious puritan ideology was destroyed before her eyes.. that's enough embarrassment for anyone to handle.
Who cares if her typical beliefs hate what the west stands for shes being made a fool off. which is quite funny.. so again let her come home.
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Ok then, rehouse her in Liverpool, give her a house benefits police guard and round the clock supervision at the Liverpool tax payers expense.
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B*llocks to that. I've got family living in Liverpool. Wouldn't want her pitching up next door to them. That's punishing her too much....
Seriously though, how can anyone ever be sure that people coming back from Syria as ISIS supporters will ever be 'deradicalised'? Why take that chance that they still harbour murderous intent on Western society and they will one day act on it?
You wouldn't let a 'reformed' Paedoh look after your kids, so why let these people come back here and be soon free to wander around society?
Bluebells I never said you couldn’t use those terms, I said you are unable to use them correctly.
I think I’m done with this thread, back to footy.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
A child is born.
Baby Begum has arrived...can we take the boy in?
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Yep, I would
Where is the Jewish or christian taliban or deash killing other faith groups and non believers for political and religious causes!?
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Who killed Tom Hurndall?
Which organisation ethnically cleansed arabs of non jewish faith from their homes, stopped them returning home, and then passed a law that vacant property could be confiscated - contrary to UN resolutions
Ku Klux Klan identify themselves as which faith?
Apartheid south africans identified as which faith?
How about Germany in the aftermath of the first world war?
You literally do not engage your brain enough TBAB.
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posted on 16/2/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 26 minutes ago
There hasn't been a good news programme since John Craven's newsround
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Bbc I’d trust more than anyone, and even they are not completely impartial.
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I don't trust the BBC anywhere as much as I used to. The whole Saville/Hall cover ups have massively eroded my confidence in them, as has their reporting of Brexit.
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Can understand that, but I’d still trust them more than mouthpieces for corporate empires(sky/fox, or rt, for state). It’s a sad thing that news, is generally at the mercy of political ideology, but I guess that’s capitalism. The bbc by nature should be exempt from this, and largely are, but seem to have swing a little off centre, but they still are one of the few that don’t have an obvious slant.
posted on 16/2/19
Just watching programme on Byzantine era on Constantinople where a Christian city was attacked by the Ottoman muslim warriors to remove cross worshippers ....this was repeated throughout the birthplace of Christianity in the middle East where once Christian Syria and Iraq were largely cleansed of Christians.....right up to now when Isis butchered or converted Mosul Christians.
Begum is just another Islamist jihadist trying to make their version of Islam all powerful.
When Catholic and protestant were killing each other I did not hear people say they were not religious fanatics or Christian fundamentalist or bigots.
When Buddhists attack Muslims they are still Buddhist.
When Sikh and Hindu clash nobody says it is not sectarian.
However, if Islamist extremists preach death to Jews, infidels and demand sharia law or a caliphate that is nothing to do with religion, Islam or Muslims?
As Islamist Turkey wiped out Armenians or as soldiers representing Islam removed Christianity from Iraq and Palestine and Syria...... so today we see Christians murdered and oppressed in mainly muslim
lands across the world.
Begum backed that militant ideology then wants to return to liberal and historically Christian UK.
Hypocrite.
posted on 16/2/19
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 26 minutes ago
There hasn't been a good news programme since John Craven's newsround
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Bbc I’d trust more than anyone, and even they are not completely impartial.
------
I don't trust the BBC anywhere as much as I used to. The whole Saville/Hall cover ups have massively eroded my confidence in them, as has their reporting of Brexit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ironically, it’s Sky that has been grilling the frauds in parliament over Brexit and uncovering all their lies whilst the BBC have been pandering to them for the last three years. Look at the likes of Marr, Neil, Bruce and Kuensburrg when they’re interviewing Labour MP’s in comparison to the Tories.
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BBC are not Tory or Brexit friendly.
Left leaning and liberal to the point of overtly being obsessed by identity politics of gender race and sexuality.
posted on 16/2/19
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 26 minutes ago
There hasn't been a good news programme since John Craven's newsround
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Bbc I’d trust more than anyone, and even they are not completely impartial.
------
I don't trust the BBC anywhere as much as I used to. The whole Saville/Hall cover ups have massively eroded my confidence in them, as has their reporting of Brexit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ironically, it’s Sky that has been grilling the frauds in parliament over Brexit and uncovering all their lies whilst the BBC have been pandering to them for the last three years. Look at the likes of Marr, Neil, Bruce and Kuensburrg when they’re interviewing Labour MP’s in comparison to the Tories.
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BBC are not Tory or Brexit friendly.
Left leaning and liberal to the point of overtly being obsessed by identity politics of gender race and sexuality.
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Don’t agree. Maybe slightly left of centre, which to a fox viewer might as well be communism. I believe the bbc, in particular political editor were accused of pro Tory bias during the election.
posted on 16/2/19
Ironically, it’s Sky that has been grilling the frauds in parliament over Brexit and uncovering all their lies whilst the BBC have been pandering to them for the last three years. Look at the likes of Marr, Neil, Bruce and Kuensburrg when they’re interviewing Labour MP’s in comparison to the Tories.
—
I’d ask why. What angle are they trying to masquerade as?
I believe sky news are ‘meant’ to be impartial. But they aren’t. I don’t tbink it’s even murdoch in charge now, Comcast bought them, so expect to see some left leaning.
posted on 16/2/19
I’d ask why. What angle are they trying to masquerade as?
Government influence of course, they own a huge chunk of the BBC. It’s a platform for them to try and brainwash the population into thinking Brexit is a great idea.
posted on 17/2/19
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
Just watching programme on Byzantine era on Constantinople where a Christian city was attacked by the Ottoman muslim warriors to remove cross worshippers ....this was repeated throughout the birthplace of Christianity in the middle East where once Christian Syria and Iraq were largely cleansed of Christians.....right up to now when Isis butchered or converted Mosul Christians.
Begum is just another Islamist jihadist trying to make their version of Islam all powerful.
When Catholic and protestant were killing each other I did not hear people say they were not religious fanatics or Christian fundamentalist or bigots.
When Buddhists attack Muslims they are still Buddhist.
When Sikh and Hindu clash nobody says it is not sectarian.
However, if Islamist extremists preach death to Jews, infidels and demand sharia law or a caliphate that is nothing to do with religion, Islam or Muslims?
As Islamist Turkey wiped out Armenians or as soldiers representing Islam removed Christianity from Iraq and Palestine and Syria...... so today we see Christians murdered and oppressed in mainly muslim
lands across the world.
Begum backed that militant ideology then wants to return to liberal and historically Christian UK.
Hypocrite.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Historically Christian? Well in recent years I guess, yes.
We're now by majority without religion, of course, and that trend is heading in only one direction; and across the ages predominately polytheisticly pagan or animist, rather than Christian.
But I guess history will show a short period of Christian predominance.
posted on 17/2/19
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
Just watching programme on Byzantine era on Constantinople where a Christian city was attacked by the Ottoman muslim warriors to remove cross worshippers ....this was repeated throughout the birthplace of Christianity in the middle East where once Christian Syria and Iraq were largely cleansed of Christians.....right up to now when Isis butchered or converted Mosul Christians.
Begum is just another Islamist jihadist trying to make their version of Islam all powerful.
When Catholic and protestant were killing each other I did not hear people say they were not religious fanatics or Christian fundamentalist or bigots.
When Buddhists attack Muslims they are still Buddhist.
When Sikh and Hindu clash nobody says it is not sectarian.
However, if Islamist extremists preach death to Jews, infidels and demand sharia law or a caliphate that is nothing to do with religion, Islam or Muslims?
As Islamist Turkey wiped out Armenians or as soldiers representing Islam removed Christianity from Iraq and Palestine and Syria...... so today we see Christians murdered and oppressed in mainly muslim
lands across the world.
Begum backed that militant ideology then wants to return to liberal and historically Christian UK.
Hypocrite.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
and there in that ramble, is TBAB trying to.make a strong association between all muslims and isis, only latterly putting a line about the OP to appear relevant.
btw the birthplace of Christianity is Palestine. Where descendents from the first Christians on earth still live. Of course they are Palestinan and therefore suffer apartheid policies against them by Israel.
Note that TBAB is an avid supporter of Israel and its policies.
He does shout hypocrite a lot. Takes one to know one I guess.
posted on 17/2/19
Bluebells how did the conversation get on to the crusades LOL?
This is why I asked you to stick to the topic of the girl, now this conversation is everywhere.
The era in which you are talking about was an era of empires, you either swallow up an empire or you get swallowed up your self.
You do know that the Byzantine Empire was part of the Roman Empire right? An empire built on expansion, so your fellow "Christians" were already conquering or had already conquered a lot of the planet. Why no mention of this?
No mention from you about Christians in Spain slaughtering Jews during the inquisition. The Ottoman Empire sent their entire navy to save them.
No talk of what the Christians did to Jews and Muslims in Palestine when they conquered Jerusalem?
The Christian Priest wrote about the Muslims who were killed... "In this temple 10,000 were killed. Indeed, if you had been there you would have seen our feet coloured to our ankles with the blood of the slain. But what more shall I relate? None of them were left alive; neither women nor children were spared."
Ibn al-Qalanisi an Arab politician and chronicler wrote of the Jews "The Jews assembled in their synagogue, and the Franks burned it over their heads."
ALL OF THIS IS IRRELEVANT THOUGH.
Muslims don't use the example of these Muslims to practise our religion, the only example we use is that of Muhammad (pbuh)
So if any Muslim has done anything wrong between now and 1400 ago, it is very easy for me to admit to it. The Armenian Genocide for example was one of those things, the rise of Daesh is also something else.
You are cherry picking parts of history to falsely illustrate why Islamic creed is inherently evil and then attributing it to events happening today. This is a pointless exercise because you still haven't backed up anything with Islamic text.
Please look at your own religion with the same critical eye.
The Ottomans ruled for hundreds of years, they were a power house, if anything bad happened on their watch, it was probably their fault. This isn't hard to admit.
The Middle-East with exception to Israel, no longer holds that power, the western world does and with power comes corruption. You'ed do well to judge western governments and your fellow Christians with the same critical eye you've judged Muslims with through out history.
posted on 17/2/19
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
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comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
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comment by Martial FC (U11781)
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
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comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
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comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 26 minutes ago
There hasn't been a good news programme since John Craven's newsround
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Bbc I’d trust more than anyone, and even they are not completely impartial.
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I don't trust the BBC anywhere as much as I used to. The whole Saville/Hall cover ups have massively eroded my confidence in them, as has their reporting of Brexit.
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Ironically, it’s Sky that has been grilling the frauds in parliament over Brexit and uncovering all their lies whilst the BBC have been pandering to them for the last three years. Look at the likes of Marr, Neil, Bruce and Kuensburrg when they’re interviewing Labour MP’s in comparison to the Tories.
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BBC are not Tory or Brexit friendly.
Left leaning and liberal to the point of overtly being obsessed by identity politics of gender race and sexuality.
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Don’t agree. Maybe slightly left of centre, which to a fox viewer might as well be communism. I believe the bbc, in particular political editor were accused of pro Tory bias during the election.
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You posted exactly what I said.....I said the BBC were left leaning and liberal...you said the BBC were left of centre.
Do people read anymore.
I watch and read all sorts of opinion and Fox is one source as I enjoyed there Five debates where conservative and democrat talked about events.
Unlike CNN just ranting about the Trumpet 24/7.
posted on 17/2/19
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 9 hours ago
Ironically, it’s Sky that has been grilling the frauds in parliament over Brexit and uncovering all their lies whilst the BBC have been pandering to them for the last three years. Look at the likes of Marr, Neil, Bruce and Kuensburrg when they’re interviewing Labour MP’s in comparison to the Tories.
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I’d ask why. What angle are they trying to masquerade as?
I believe sky news are ‘meant’ to be impartial. But they aren’t. I don’t tbink it’s even murdoch in charge now, Comcast bought them, so expect to see some left leaning.
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Kfc will remind you to get back on Begum topic.
Nothing wrong with left leaning as I would be on certain topics...however some portray BBC as right wing unionist and brexit friendly.
posted on 17/2/19
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 8 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
Just watching programme on Byzantine era on Constantinople where a Christian city was attacked by the Ottoman muslim warriors to remove cross worshippers ....this was repeated throughout the birthplace of Christianity in the middle East where once Christian Syria and Iraq were largely cleansed of Christians.....right up to now when Isis butchered or converted Mosul Christians.
Begum is just another Islamist jihadist trying to make their version of Islam all powerful.
When Catholic and protestant were killing each other I did not hear people say they were not religious fanatics or Christian fundamentalist or bigots.
When Buddhists attack Muslims they are still Buddhist.
When Sikh and Hindu clash nobody says it is not sectarian.
However, if Islamist extremists preach death to Jews, infidels and demand sharia law or a caliphate that is nothing to do with religion, Islam or Muslims?
As Islamist Turkey wiped out Armenians or as soldiers representing Islam removed Christianity from Iraq and Palestine and Syria...... so today we see Christians murdered and oppressed in mainly muslim
lands across the world.
Begum backed that militant ideology then wants to return to liberal and historically Christian UK.
Hypocrite.
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Historically Christian? Well in recent years I guess, yes.
We're now by majority without religion, of course, and that trend is heading in only one direction; and across the ages predominately polytheisticly pagan or animist, rather than Christian.
But I guess history will show a short period of Christian predominance.
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Our modern history has benefited from Christian influence in education, Industrial revolution, saving, hard work, fairness, NHS, charity, science, liberal democracy from the age of Enlightenment, physical and mental strength etc.
posted on 17/2/19
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 7 hours ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
Just watching programme on Byzantine era on Constantinople where a Christian city was attacked by the Ottoman muslim warriors to remove cross worshippers ....this was repeated throughout the birthplace of Christianity in the middle East where once Christian Syria and Iraq were largely cleansed of Christians.....right up to now when Isis butchered or converted Mosul Christians.
Begum is just another Islamist jihadist trying to make their version of Islam all powerful.
When Catholic and protestant were killing each other I did not hear people say they were not religious fanatics or Christian fundamentalist or bigots.
When Buddhists attack Muslims they are still Buddhist.
When Sikh and Hindu clash nobody says it is not sectarian.
However, if Islamist extremists preach death to Jews, infidels and demand sharia law or a caliphate that is nothing to do with religion, Islam or Muslims?
As Islamist Turkey wiped out Armenians or as soldiers representing Islam removed Christianity from Iraq and Palestine and Syria...... so today we see Christians murdered and oppressed in mainly muslim
lands across the world.
Begum backed that militant ideology then wants to return to liberal and historically Christian UK.
Hypocrite.
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and there in that ramble, is TBAB trying to.make a strong association between all muslims and isis, only latterly putting a line about the OP to appear relevant.
btw the birthplace of Christianity is Palestine. Where descendents from the first Christians on earth still live. Of course they are Palestinan and therefore suffer apartheid policies against them by Israel.
Note that TBAB is an avid supporter of Israel and its policies.
He does shout hypocrite a lot. Takes one to know one I guess.
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Muslims fought with us against our enenmies last century and today... as kung fu
said ...I back the peshmerga Kurds who are muslim.
Muslim medics look after my family and improve British society with their study,hard work and strong family culture.
I voted leave with Muslims who I have more in common with than some non muslim remainers
posted on 17/2/19
Kfc.
Was literally watching Byzantine documentary with mum as daughter kicked me out of the house for her sleepover
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As your reply is long I will deal with the first part....the programme was A Tale of Three Cities between "Latins/Romans, Greek Orthodox locals and the muslim section.
I know how romans treated locals as Latins and Greeks grew to hate each other even though Latins came to "crusade".
I know Christians did wrong and You use the term Christian.....even though people cannot use the term muslim or Islamist or militant jihadist?????
Why do you feel ok using Christian to describe Spanish persecution of Jews or protestants.....did the bible tell them to do so or was the Inquisition doin God's work spreading peace and love?
I have no problem accepting hard line cross worshippers distorted Christian faith to oppress but you and others do not accept that Islamist hardliners do so in the name of Islam in their twisted view.
Can you see this massive contradiction?.
Fundamentalist Christians were bad...accepted.
FundsmentslistMuslim/Islamist/isis...Nothing to do with Islam.
You get me, right.
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posted on 17/2/19
Kfc and Red.
I do not give Israel or Christians or the West a blank cheque.
I know Christian hardliners were evil at times and I opposed most western intervention in modern day ME and Afghanistan, even though nobody said how we should defeat the Taliban or Isis without going in.The Blair regime change idea was flawed...end of.
I support Israel's right to exist and the two state option....not their govt.
Try not to paint me as some daft EDL islamophobe, guys.😉
I do not hate Muslims...why would I?
posted on 17/2/19
Let her comeback with her tail between her legs. shes begging to return. after her religious puritan ideology was destroyed before her eyes.. that's enough embarrassment for anyone to handle.
Who cares if her typical beliefs hate what the west stands for shes being made a fool off. which is quite funny.. so again let her come home.
posted on 17/2/19
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 45 minutes ago
Let her comeback with her tail between her legs. shes begging to return. after her religious puritan ideology was destroyed before her eyes.. that's enough embarrassment for anyone to handle.
Who cares if her typical beliefs hate what the west stands for shes being made a fool off. which is quite funny.. so again let her come home.
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America says they are pulling out and kurds cannot look after 800 euro jihadists so eevmay have to take Begum and hundreds of others back...or they go free.
However, it is not easy to prosecute returning fighters as evidence is in Syria and Iraq.. so we have 400 odd returned militants roaming about?
A mess.
posted on 17/2/19
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Let her comeback with her tail between her legs. shes begging to return. after her religious puritan ideology was destroyed before her eyes.. that's enough embarrassment for anyone to handle.
Who cares if her typical beliefs hate what the west stands for shes being made a fool off. which is quite funny.. so again let her come home.
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Ok then, rehouse her in Liverpool, give her a house benefits police guard and round the clock supervision at the Liverpool tax payers expense.
posted on 17/2/19
A child is born.
Baby Begum has arrived...can we take the boy in?
posted on 17/2/19
comment by MBL. (U6305)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Let her comeback with her tail between her legs. shes begging to return. after her religious puritan ideology was destroyed before her eyes.. that's enough embarrassment for anyone to handle.
Who cares if her typical beliefs hate what the west stands for shes being made a fool off. which is quite funny.. so again let her come home.
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Ok then, rehouse her in Liverpool, give her a house benefits police guard and round the clock supervision at the Liverpool tax payers expense.
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Need a bigger house as there are hundreds
home.
What is wrong with a Gitmo or Alcatraz style prison for the euro jihadis?
Sending them to Liverpool is just cruel.
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posted on 17/2/19
Christians in Palestine.
I realize they are a minority there now after the birthplace of Christianity changed demographically....Jewish people were there first of course.
I have heard some young Zionist guys have sprayed stuff in church walls but compared to how islamists murder Christians across the world it is hardly a good comparison.
I do not think Christians want to wipe Israel out either.
As stated I would prefer a two state solution and no Hamas violence or IDF response.
Then Christian, jew and muslim can live in peace in the region.
Of you would like to show me global Jewish terror groups or Christian terror groups today Red...go ahead.
Where is the Jewish or christian taliban or deash killing other faith groups and non believers for political and religious causes!?
Why is it ok to have around 22 mainly muslim states, but the one mainly Jewish state that gets all your attention and criticism!?
posted on 17/2/19
comment by MBL. (U6305)
posted 4 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Let her comeback with her tail between her legs. shes begging to return. after her religious puritan ideology was destroyed before her eyes.. that's enough embarrassment for anyone to handle.
Who cares if her typical beliefs hate what the west stands for shes being made a fool off. which is quite funny.. so again let her come home.
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Ok then, rehouse her in Liverpool, give her a house benefits police guard and round the clock supervision at the Liverpool tax payers expense.
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B*llocks to that. I've got family living in Liverpool. Wouldn't want her pitching up next door to them. That's punishing her too much....
Seriously though, how can anyone ever be sure that people coming back from Syria as ISIS supporters will ever be 'deradicalised'? Why take that chance that they still harbour murderous intent on Western society and they will one day act on it?
You wouldn't let a 'reformed' Paedoh look after your kids, so why let these people come back here and be soon free to wander around society?
posted on 17/2/19
Bluebells I never said you couldn’t use those terms, I said you are unable to use them correctly.
I think I’m done with this thread, back to footy.
posted on 17/2/19
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
A child is born.
Baby Begum has arrived...can we take the boy in?
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Yep, I would
posted on 17/2/19
Where is the Jewish or christian taliban or deash killing other faith groups and non believers for political and religious causes!?
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Who killed Tom Hurndall?
Which organisation ethnically cleansed arabs of non jewish faith from their homes, stopped them returning home, and then passed a law that vacant property could be confiscated - contrary to UN resolutions
Ku Klux Klan identify themselves as which faith?
Apartheid south africans identified as which faith?
How about Germany in the aftermath of the first world war?
You literally do not engage your brain enough TBAB.
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