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Özil Tweet undermining Emery?

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posted on 16/2/19

Or is it more a case of a sportsperson trying to protect their 'brand'?

posted on 16/2/19

I have never been Ozil biggest fan but his treatment under Emery or the board has been nothing short of being a disgrace

Not selecting him in a team that is arguably one of the worst we have had for 15 years is a joke

posted on 16/2/19

Lexi, what is your opinion?

posted on 16/2/19

Geets, I think it's obviously a VERY pointed messages to the manager, via the fans.

Ozil (or his people) are trying to show him as the good guy and, after a hugely embarrassing defeat, have taken the opportunity to do this when they know the confidence in the manager is at a very weak point.

Not at all helpful as far as the club goes, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the point of it anyway.

posted on 16/2/19

Arseblog react as well.

https://twitter.com/charles_watts/status/1096692281787203585

posted on 16/2/19

I was happy when Emery was putting Ozil in his box at the start but this seems more personal and tactical when you see how far Emery has gone with this.

It’s an incredibly embarrassing situation for Arsenal

posted on 16/2/19

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 15 minutes ago
Arseblog react as well.

https://twitter.com/charles_watts/status/1096692281787203585
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Can help but agree with most of this tbf.

posted on 16/2/19

comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
I was happy when Emery was putting Ozil in his box at the start but this seems more personal and tactical when you see how far Emery has gone with this.

It’s an incredibly embarrassing situation for Arsenal
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Things to mull over:

- Is it a tactical thing, whereby Ozil doesn't fit into the system Emery wants to adopt?

If so, what IS the system Emery wants to adopt? He sometimes seems to flit between 2 or 3 within a game.

- Is Ozil not a hard enough worker?

If that's the case, why then are other players apparently absolved of the same failing?

- Did this merely start out as Emery trying to impose himself on the squad early doors, so as not to fall into a repeat of the situation he found himself in at PSG, and it's since snowballed out of control?

If so, just be a facking man about it, and start thinking about what's best for the team.

- Is Ozil a disruptive character in training?

Not heard any rumours about this, and in the official club photos he seems very involved with things.

- Is there instruction coming down from boardroom level telling Emery to marginalise the player, to try to force him out of the club?

To me this seems the most logical reason of all...

posted on 16/2/19

I think there’s probably more to the situation than just Emery not picking ozil for tactical reasons, and that he’s not his sort of player. Even if you hated the player if there was a situation where his attributes can help, such like against BATE, you’d surely bring him for thre bench at least. He’s probably our most capable player of unlocking a team that you know are just going to go full defence all game

It is clear Emery doesn’t think Özil is right for this style of play, which is understandable for some games we play. He’s probably challenged ozil to change, but he hasn’t. Won’t be surprised if there’s been a big falling out, and or has been pressure from the top to force him out the club. Surely if the club as a whole wanted him to stay, they’d be pressure for emery to pick him. What with ozil being our most famous, highest paid and most marketable player

There was probably hope ozil would want to leave in January, and we could cut some costs. But he didn’t, and no one wanted him. So like many decisions the club makes, it’s backfired

posted on 16/2/19

I agree with most of what arseblog saying.

It can be right if a player try to get back into the team through cryptic messages over social media.

On the other hand the performances at the moment getting worse and worse and that falls into our manager's responsibilities.

Our midfield is without ideas and creativity, passing is a shambles.

Özil can't be any worse than what we currently have to endure. Unai needs to jump over his shade and give Özil a fair chance to show up. With a fair chance I mean not only 25 min coming on as a sub.

posted on 16/2/19

You can't start Ozil away at Anfield, Etihad and places like that but he should be a banker especially at home and against teams such as Bate.

Emery would prefer playing Xhaka, Guendouzi and Torreira in the set up rather than Ozil and as a result we have struggled over the last few months.

posted on 16/2/19

If that's the case, why then are other players apparently absolved of the same failing?
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Who?

To me this seems the most logical reason of all...
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If that was the case wouldn't it be more prudent to showcase the player?

posted on 16/2/19

I am not sure why I should feel 'sorry' for someone who very rarely gives full commitment on the pitch whilst earning more than any other player.

From reports Arsenal offered to send him on loan in Jan but he refused. So why should I feel sympathy for a player not willing to help himself?

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 16/2/19

comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
I was happy when Emery was putting Ozil in his box at the start but this seems more personal and tactical when you see how far Emery has gone with this.

It’s an incredibly embarrassing situation for Arsenal
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Things to mull over:

- Is it a tactical thing, whereby Ozil doesn't fit into the system Emery wants to adopt?

If so, what IS the system Emery wants to adopt? He sometimes seems to flit between 2 or 3 within a game.

- Is Ozil not a hard enough worker?

If that's the case, why then are other players apparently absolved of the same failing?

- Did this merely start out as Emery trying to impose himself on the squad early doors, so as not to fall into a repeat of the situation he found himself in at PSG, and it's since snowballed out of control?

If so, just be a facking man about it, and start thinking about what's best for the team.

- Is Ozil a disruptive character in training?

Not heard any rumours about this, and in the official club photos he seems very involved with things.

- Is there instruction coming down from boardroom level telling Emery to marginalise the player, to try to force him out of the club?

To me this seems the most logical reason of all...
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Raul is known for pushing (or forcing) stars out inhis time at Barcelona. Eto'o, Deco, Zlatan, etc... just to name a few.

posted on 16/2/19

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 minutes ago
If that's the case, why then are other players apparently absolved of the same failing?
-----------------
Who?

To me this seems the most logical reason of all...
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If that was the case wouldn't it be more prudent to showcase the player?
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Who?

Well Xhaka and Kolasinac for two.


As for showcasing the player, where then would be the pressure on him to leave, should he play regularly?

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 16/2/19

What I'd say though is that if it's really Raul pulling the strings behind the scenes, then we ended up with a director of football who already has too much power.
Directors shouldn't decide who goes on a team sheet. You can't undermine the manager job. We saw that at Chelsea and we all know how it ended.
If however it's Emery, then he better come up with a plan B because in the end, he will be judged on Results and going out of the Europa in the last 32 against Bate won't look good at all.

posted on 16/2/19

comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 minutes ago
If that's the case, why then are other players apparently absolved of the same failing?
-----------------
Who?

To me this seems the most logical reason of all...
-----------------
If that was the case wouldn't it be more prudent to showcase the player?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who?

Well Xhaka and Kolasinac for two.


As for showcasing the player, where then would be the pressure on him to leave, should he play regularly?
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Football is a team sport and I am really fed up for blaming one or the other player and scapegoating.

The team performances are so bad at the moment and getting worse. There is no real sporting reason not given Özil a fair chance to show up. And I mean a fair chance and not 20 min as a sub in an already dead game.

posted on 16/2/19

'Even if you hated the player if there was a situation where his attributes can help, such like against BATE, you’d surely bring him for thre bench at least. He’s probably our most capable player of unlocking a team that you know are just going to go full defence all game'

Agreed.

Under normal circumstances you'd expect Ozil to be one of the first names on the team-sheet next Thursday. Wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised though if he only makes the bench.

posted on 16/2/19

comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 minutes ago
If that's the case, why then are other players apparently absolved of the same failing?
-----------------
Who?

To me this seems the most logical reason of all...
-----------------
If that was the case wouldn't it be more prudent to showcase the player?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who?

Well Xhaka and Kolasinac for two.
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I constantly criticise Xhaka's limitations but he works amazingly hard. So does Kolsaniac. He is up and down on the wing. Think Xhaka avg 14km per game or something ridiculous. It doesn't make up for his lack of concentration in the game or for Kolsaniac lapses either. Xhaka, Kols and Mustafi are just poor players in my opinion but I have never questioned their commitment. The straw that broke the camel's back in my opinion of Ozil was actually last season when he refused to play for almost 3 months because of back problems that miraculously healed for the world cup.


As for showcasing the player, where then would be the pressure on him to leave, should he play regularly?
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I am not sure what that has anything to do with transfers! Players do not have any power in case of transfers till the final year of their contract. It would actually suit Arsenal if Ozil did really well. Ozil has 2 years to go in the summer so Arsenal could sell him without his say so. Obviously any buying club would like the player to come them happily but then again why would any player turn the opportunity for a 4 year contract on £350k a week instead of the 2 left on his deal?

posted on 16/2/19

comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 Emery Poor man's Mourinho 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 16 minutes ago
What I'd say though is that if it's really Raul pulling the strings behind the scenes, then we ended up with a director of football who already has too much power.
Directors shouldn't decide who goes on a team sheet. You can't undermine the manager job. We saw that at Chelsea and we all know how it ended.
If however it's Emery, then he better come up with a plan B because in the end, he will be judged on Results and going out of the Europa in the last 32 against Bate won't look good at all.
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Of course its down to Emery! We are closing in on a technical director who could do that sort of thing but he hasn't been appointed yet.

Emery's job targets haven't changed. He has to qualify for the CL this season or the very worst by next.

posted on 16/2/19

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 minutes ago
If that's the case, why then are other players apparently absolved of the same failing?
-----------------
Who?

To me this seems the most logical reason of all...
-----------------
If that was the case wouldn't it be more prudent to showcase the player?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who?

Well Xhaka and Kolasinac for two.


As for showcasing the player, where then would be the pressure on him to leave, should he play regularly?
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Football is a team sport and I am really fed up for blaming one or the other player and scapegoating.

The team performances are so bad at the moment and getting worse. There is no real sporting reason not given Özil a fair chance to show up. And I mean a fair chance and not 20 min as a sub in an already dead game.
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I'm not looking to scapegoat individual players, Geets, just making the point that IF Emery thinks Ozil is lazy, he's not the only player in the squad that could be seen as such.

posted on 16/2/19

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 minutes ago
If that's the case, why then are other players apparently absolved of the same failing?
-----------------
Who?

To me this seems the most logical reason of all...
-----------------
If that was the case wouldn't it be more prudent to showcase the player?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who?

Well Xhaka and Kolasinac for two.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I constantly criticise Xhaka's limitations but he works amazingly hard. So does Kolsaniac. He is up and down on the wing. Think Xhaka avg 14km per game or something ridiculous. It doesn't make up for his lack of concentration in the game or for Kolsaniac lapses either. Xhaka, Kols and Mustafi are just poor players in my opinion but I have never questioned their commitment. The straw that broke the camel's back in my opinion of Ozil was actually last season when he refused to play for almost 3 months because of back problems that miraculously healed for the world cup.


As for showcasing the player, where then would be the pressure on him to leave, should he play regularly?
---------------------
I am not sure what that has anything to do with transfers! Players do not have any power in case of transfers till the final year of their contract. It would actually suit Arsenal if Ozil did really well. Ozil has 2 years to go in the summer so Arsenal could sell him without his say so. Obviously any buying club would like the player to come them happily but then again why would any player turn the opportunity for a 4 year contract on £350k a week instead of the 2 left on his deal?
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So if we try to sell Ozil to... I dunno, let's say Inter this summer, but they're only prepared to pay him £150k a week, he'll have no say over whether that transfer happens?

Okay.

posted on 16/2/19

comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 2 minutes ago
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So if we try to sell Ozil to... I dunno, let's say Inter this summer, but they're only prepared to pay him £150k a week, he'll have no say over whether that transfer happens?

Okay.
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What?

We can only sell his 'registration' ie remaining contract!

posted on 16/2/19

Sign him up, Ed

posted on 16/2/19

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 2 minutes ago
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So if we try to sell Ozil to... I dunno, let's say Inter this summer, but they're only prepared to pay him £150k a week, he'll have no say over whether that transfer happens?

Okay.
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What?

We can only sell his 'registration' ie remaining contract!
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Point is, the player is apparently quite happy living in London, and staying at Arsenal in order to do so.

The only thing currently suffering as far as he's concerned is his 'brand', and possibly his ego.

Therefore the only card the club seem to have left to play is to exclude him from playing, in the hope that his career - which let's face it plateaued a couple of seasons ago - is still important enough to him to want to try to resurrect.

I'm sure everyone at Arsenal would be open to receiving an alternative course of action though...

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