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Carragher on Pogba - 2018

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posted on 19/2/19

He absolutely did play him in the same position. Matic holding with Herrera and Pogba in a midfield three. That's only slightly different from a diamond with Matic at the base and Herrera and Pogba in the middle.

posted on 19/2/19

comment by Wahl Icht (U22069)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
Mourinho changed Pogba's position in the second season

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How stupid did that turn out to be?
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Mourinho played him in the same position effectively that Solskjaer plays him in now, just in a different formation. Same position though. Matic behind him and Herrera next to him. Mourinho was playing him in his best position.
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The reality is what he was told to do under Mourinho bears no relation to what he is being allowed to do under Solskjaer.

posted on 19/2/19

He absolutely did play him in the same position.

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No he didn't.

You don't understand football.

posted on 19/2/19

The point I was making was Mourinho changed the formation and changed Pogba's position to one that was better for him.

posted on 19/2/19

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
He absolutely did play him in the same position.

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No he didn't.

You don't understand football.
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You don't understand the meaning of the word position.

posted on 19/2/19

comment by Wahl Icht (U22069)
posted 18 seconds ago
The point I was making was Mourinho changed the formation and changed Pogba's position to one that was better for him.
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Mourinho had Pogba sitting around on the bench or in the stand. How was that better for him?

posted on 19/2/19

Pogba’s in the form of his life because he’s playing in an attacking system with good movement. He’s not been given that luxury in his career before. It’s something I’ve wanted to see for a long time, and he hasn’t disappointed. It’s nothing to do with simply picking his tools back up. He’s on a completely different building site.

posted on 19/2/19

comment by Wahl Icht (U22069)
posted 4 minutes ago
He absolutely did play him in the same position. Matic holding with Herrera and Pogba in a midfield three. That's only slightly different from a diamond with Matic at the base and Herrera and Pogba in the middle.
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No he didn't. Check the heat maps.

posted on 19/2/19

comment by Cornelius Oofterom (U15867)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht (U22069)
posted 18 seconds ago
The point I was making was Mourinho changed the formation and changed Pogba's position to one that was better for him.
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Mourinho had Pogba sitting around on the bench or in the stand. How was that better for him?
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In Mourinho second season I meant

posted on 19/2/19

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Pogba’s in the form of his life because he’s playing in an attacking system with good movement. He’s not been given that luxury in his career before. It’s something I’ve wanted to see for a long time, and he hasn’t disappointed. It’s nothing to do with simply picking his tools back up. He’s on a completely different building site.
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I accept he's playing well now, I'm just saying he clearly downed tools before and it's funny how some of your guys are trying to deny that instead of just accepting that Pogba's not a nice guy who did something bad.

posted on 19/2/19

Yeah but you don’t understand why he is playing well now, that’s the issue.

posted on 19/2/19

You don't understand the meaning of the word position.

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I understand it better than you if you think Pogba's position hasn't changed under Ole.

posted on 19/2/19

comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht (U22069)
posted 4 minutes ago
He absolutely did play him in the same position. Matic holding with Herrera and Pogba in a midfield three. That's only slightly different from a diamond with Matic at the base and Herrera and Pogba in the middle.
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No he didn't. Check the heat maps.
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Well that's because the style of play is different with Solskjaer. The position is at least very similar to the position he's currently playing with Solskjaer and the point I was making is that Mourinho moved Pogba from a position he wasn't very suited to play to one that was better for him and did actually get more out of him, so it's clear that Mourinho did try a lot of things to get more out of Pogba.

posted on 19/2/19

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah but you don’t understand why he is playing well now, that’s the issue.
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I fully understand that that system you play now is different to the one Mourinho played. that makes a small difference compared to the much bigger change which is that Pogba has stopped downing tools.

posted on 19/2/19

Well that's because the style of play is different with Solskjaer.

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Thank the lord for that.

posted on 19/2/19

comment by Wahl Icht (U22069)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht (U22069)
posted 4 minutes ago
He absolutely did play him in the same position. Matic holding with Herrera and Pogba in a midfield three. That's only slightly different from a diamond with Matic at the base and Herrera and Pogba in the middle.
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No he didn't. Check the heat maps.
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Well that's because the style of play is different with Solskjaer. The position is at least very similar to the position he's currently playing with Solskjaer and the point I was making is that Mourinho moved Pogba from a position he wasn't very suited to play to one that was better for him and did actually get more out of him, so it's clear that Mourinho did try a lot of things to get more out of Pogba.
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It's not remotely similar other than that he's on a football pitch. I don't care what it says when you pop him in your FIFA team, his position is literally different and I know this because you can see where he positions himself via heat maps.

posted on 19/2/19

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posted on 19/2/19

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
You don't understand the meaning of the word position.

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I understand it better than you if you think Pogba's position hasn't changed under Ole.
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What is the huge difference in position between playing in a midfield 3 and playing in the 3 behind the tip in a midfield diamond? It is slightly different because the wingers in a 4-3-3 aren't there in a diamond but it's a very similar position.

posted on 19/2/19

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 13 seconds ago
Is this guy Jose’s spokesman?
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I think it's the man himself.

posted on 19/2/19

It's not remotely similar other than that he's on a football pitch. I don't care what it says when you pop him in your FIFA team, his position is literally different and I know this because you can see where he positions himself via heat maps.

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The word 'position' being the big clue here Wahl.

posted on 19/2/19

It makes a huge difference, Wahl. You just can’t see it. It’s ok, Mourinho’s shiiiiiiiit football has messed up your understanding of football.

posted on 19/2/19

So where should Mourinho have played Pogba in a 4-3-3 formation? Did he not play him in the best position he could have in that formation?

posted on 19/2/19

So where should Mourinho have played Pogba in a 4-3-3 formation?

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Much further forward.

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Did he not play him in the best position he could have in that formation?

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No, he did not. He shackled him from attacking, as he did with everybody else.

posted on 19/2/19

Mourinho didn't shackle Pogba from attacking. He signed Matic specifically so that Pogba could attack more. That's another thing Mourinho did, sign players to further help get more out of Pogba.

posted on 19/2/19

Mourinho didn't shackle Pogba from attacking.

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Yes he did.

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That's another thing Mourinho did, sign players to further help get more out of Pogba.

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Yep, and played Groot instead.

Terrible manager.

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