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posted on 20/2/19

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
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comment by San Miguel (U1449)
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
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comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
You asked what Herrera has that Henderson doesn't and I gave you 2 examples, goals and assists, so let's hear what Henderson has that Herrera doesn't have

This should be good
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3 points in the games between us this season and a chance of the league title.
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We talking 11 v 11 now then?

Nice swerve
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Yup, always were, unless you’re saying Herrera set his goals up himself and assisted with own goals only.. ya chubby prat.
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Blobby, you ran off without answering.. does Herrera rely on any of the other ten players on the pitch to have those stats of 3 goals and 3 assists?

If not, you should be arguing that Herrera should be the best player in the world if he can have a hand in 6 goals when playing against 11 other players.



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Poor blobby, he doesn’t know it’s a team game,

“We talking 11 v 11 now then?”



What an idiot he is.
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Come on Blobby, tell us how it isn’t a team game of 11 players.. stop sniping independantly and reply on this comment thread.

Cheers

posted on 20/2/19

No they don't, TOOR.

They are one part of consideration, sure, but when Herrera has been playing in a system like Jose's they become largely meaningless because his stats will be affected by how he's being asked to play.

Just as Martial will have worse stats than wingers who are blatantly not as good as him.

It's not a fact that Henderson is a better passer of the ball, it's an opinion.

posted on 20/2/19

Poor bloke, he really does need help

posted on 20/2/19

Replying to his own post 3 times

posted on 20/2/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 28 seconds ago
No they don't, TOOR.

They are one part of consideration, sure, but when Herrera has been playing in a system like Jose's they become largely meaningless because his stats will be affected by how he's being asked to play.

Just as Martial will have worse stats than wingers who are blatantly not as good as him.

It's not a fact that Henderson is a better passer of the ball, it's an opinion.
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Oh so you want to take account of the systems? Ok Herrera was playing in a more rigid system and asked not to play risky passes? And still has a lower pass completion percentage. I'm not sure this consideration works in his favour here.

posted on 20/2/19

You scored an own goal with your ..

“We talking 11 v 11 now then?”

Own it Blobby, and have some cake as you’re feeling a bit down.

posted on 20/2/19

No TOOR, I simply want to accept stats are one small part of forming an opinion about something.

There is no absolute factual answer as to who is the better passer - it comes down to opinion.

You wanted to know why I'm not bothering to outline why I think Herrera is better, well here it is. You don't understand the difference between fact and opinion - same with refereeing decisions... same with everything when it comes to you.

Your binary, black and white, right or wrong world - you just can't understand why your opinion is not shared by other people. It's incredible.

posted on 20/2/19

Henderson is the better passer.

Herrera has some qualities of his own but passing, Henderson is better.

posted on 20/2/19

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 18 seconds ago
Henderson is the better passer.

Herrera has some qualities of his own but passing, Henderson is better.
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In your opinion.

posted on 20/2/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
No TOOR, I simply want to accept stats are one small part of forming an opinion about something.

There is no absolute factual answer as to who is the better passer - it comes down to opinion.

You wanted to know why I'm not bothering to outline why I think Herrera is better, well here it is. You don't understand the difference between fact and opinion - same with refereeing decisions... same with everything when it comes to you.

Your binary, black and white, right or wrong world - you just can't understand why your opinion is not shared by other people. It's incredible.
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I do understand the difference. The problem is that even when presented with facts, you dispute them and try to get around them, introducing another idea, which unbeknownst to you at the time, added further weight to the fact.

posted on 20/2/19

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 29 seconds ago
You scored an own goal with your ..

“We talking 11 v 11 now then?”

Own it Blobby, and have some cake as you’re feeling a bit down.
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When a striker wins the golden boot do the whole team win it or the bloke who puts the ball in the net?

See if you can answer that simple question without daft smileys or childish names

There's a good lad

posted on 20/2/19

There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)

I haven't disputed any actual facts.

posted on 20/2/19

Out of interest, where are these stats that you mention TOOR? What resource do you use?

posted on 20/2/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Out of interest, where are these stats that you mention TOOR? What resource do you use?
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I find Squawka best.

posted on 20/2/19

comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 29 seconds ago
You scored an own goal with your ..

“We talking 11 v 11 now then?”

Own it Blobby, and have some cake as you’re feeling a bit down.
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When a striker wins the golden boot do the whole team win it or the bloke who puts the ball in the net?

See if you can answer that simple question without daft smileys or childish names

There's a good lad
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Very much doubt the golden boot winner would not acknowledge his team mates efforts in winning it.

“We talking 11 v 11 now then?“

If smileys make you ... tough!



posted on 20/2/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)

I haven't disputed any actual facts.
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You have. What is it you dont understand about this?

The stats say Henderson is a better passer, you say he isn't. That's disputing the facts.

If Shearer scores more goals than Sheringham every season, he's a better goalscorer, whether you disagree with the fact or not.

posted on 20/2/19

Winnie knotted..

posted on 20/2/19

Nope, didn't think so

posted on 20/2/19

Don’t cry blobby..

“We talking 11 v 11 now then?”

posted on 20/2/19

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)

I haven't disputed any actual facts.
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You have. What is it you dont understand about this?

The stats say Henderson is a better passer, you say he isn't. That's disputing the facts.

If Shearer scores more goals than Sheringham every season, he's a better goalscorer, whether you disagree with the fact or not.
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No, the stats say what the stats say.

They may tell you who has made more forward passes for example. That is a fact.

It is not a fact to translate that as who is the better passer. That is when you've used some facts to form an opinion.

It's a basic point but from painful experience I know you won't understand it.

posted on 20/2/19

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 58 seconds ago
Winnie knotted..
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He's away to check the stats. He'll attempt to spin them in a way that suits so may be away a while.

posted on 20/2/19

It's like conversing with a cabbage

posted on 20/2/19

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 58 seconds ago
Winnie knotted..
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He's away to check the stats. He'll attempt to spin them in a way that suits so may be away a while.
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Oh here we go. The Liverpool gang start sticking up for each other when they're being destroyed.

posted on 20/2/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)

I haven't disputed any actual facts.
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You have. What is it you dont understand about this?

The stats say Henderson is a better passer, you say he isn't. That's disputing the facts.

If Shearer scores more goals than Sheringham every season, he's a better goalscorer, whether you disagree with the fact or not.
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No, the stats say what the stats say.

They may tell you who has made more forward passes for example. That is a fact.

It is not a fact to translate that as who is the better passer. That is when you've used some facts to form an opinion.

It's a basic point but from painful experience I know you won't understand it.
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So Henderson plays more forward passes, more ranges of passes and has a higher pass completion rate and that doesn't tell you, if with your bias, that he's a better passer? If the facts don't tell you it then nothing will.

posted on 20/2/19

comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 23 seconds ago
It's like conversing with a cabbage
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I wouldn’t know mate..

However a cabbage won’t dispute your questioning “We talking 11 v 11 now then?” so you crack on and do the rounds visiting various legumes at the greengrocer.

You can blame the onions for making you

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