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A club with no identity anymore

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posted on 23/2/19

Are we even sure Top is up to it? The guy is still grieving his father.

posted on 23/2/19

comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 19 seconds ago
Are we even sure Top is up to it? The guy is still grieving his father.
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Then he needs to sell up. This is a business and it needs leadership right now

posted on 23/2/19

‘A club with no identity anymore’

I think this has been a destination a lot of Leicester fans have feared we’ve been sailing towards for a while now

posted on 23/2/19

For those with a radio at hand, perhaps you’ll listen to Talksport and listen to the fans calling in. Apparently the switchboard is jammed with City fans waiting to get on.

posted on 23/2/19

comment by The Artist formerly known as Black Starr (U12353)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 19 seconds ago
Are we even sure Top is up to it? The guy is still grieving his father.
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Then he needs to sell up. This is a business and it needs leadership right now
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Perhaps more get a new chairman in than be this drastic or defeatist

posted on 23/2/19

comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Artist formerly known as Black Starr (U12353)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 19 seconds ago
Are we even sure Top is up to it? The guy is still grieving his father.
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Then he needs to sell up. This is a business and it needs leadership right now
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Perhaps more get a new chairman in than be this drastic or defeatist
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A new chairman can’t run a football club singlehandly. Ultimately it’s tops business now and he needs to make a decision as to whether he has the heart to carry on with it. He has to be committed or it will fail - regardless of who he appoints as chairman

posted on 23/2/19

Maybe I'm doing him a disservice as he has pulled the trigger at OH Leuven and sacked Nigel and employed a decent coach there.

Obviously our club is probably harder to sort out.

posted on 23/2/19

And if he did walk away, I’d be gutted but would understand it and prefer that to being under the ownership of someone who just didn’t have his heart in it anymore

posted on 23/2/19

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posted on 23/2/19

Fack off you turrd

posted on 23/2/19

Let's be honest, the next managerial appointment is absolutely crucial. Get it wrong and we will be in the Championship within 2 years. Absolutely guarantee it.

We absolutely reek of that club that gradually slips down the table, sacks manager after manager and ends up with no idea of how to move forward. Once you're in that decline, it is nigh on impossible to get out of. The Championship is cluttered with those kind of clubs - Stoke, Swansea, West Brom, Villa, Leeds, Bolton. All made terrible decisions, all plummeted down the table and all eventually went down. You can't rely on there being worse teams than you forever.

posted on 23/2/19

comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 2 minutes ago
Let's be honest, the next managerial appointment is absolutely crucial. Get it wrong and we will be in the Championship within 2 years. Absolutely guarantee it.

We absolutely reek of that club that gradually slips down the table, sacks manager after manager and ends up with no idea of how to move forward. Once you're in that decline, it is nigh on impossible to get out of. The Championship is cluttered with those kind of clubs - Stoke, Swansea, West Brom, Villa, Leeds, Bolton. All made terrible decisions, all plummeted down the table and all eventually went down. You can't rely on there being worse teams than you forever.
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Totally agree. All of those clubs stood in the middle of the road not knowing which side they wanted to be on. And they got run over

posted on 23/2/19

Agree with the last two posts.

I don’t think our overall structure is wrong. We’re investing in youth, infrastructure and a transfer policy that’s back on track after a tricky couple of windows following the title win.

I personally think Susan Whelan is shrewd and has led us fantastically.

Our issue is simply this. We have a talented squad but we’re one dimensional and easy to predict and beat. Sit deep, soak up our possession and your chances will come.

I know we disagree BS, but my blame personally lies with Puel. You can’t take on this set of players and get them under performing so badly we’re at risk of relegation.

The one thing I’m totally with you and foxello on is that the next managerial appointment is absolutely critical. We need a strong manager that can execute and manage a medium term plan. The first point on that plan has to be getting the current set of players performing to their ability.

posted on 23/2/19

My attention was drawn in the match stats to the fact you gave away just 5 fouls all game, so I had a look back over your foul stats. Dunno if there's much you can read into this, but here they are:

Season average: 9.4 fpg - 15th in the league

Since 1st Jan.: 7.4 (Everton game inclusive).

Man City, on 8.7, have the lowest fpg average in the league; Brighton are highest, 13.0.

So your average since New Year's day is considerably lower than the league average, your own average, and even Man City's average.

The outlier in these past 7 matches was your game versus Man United (13 fouls). Without that game, your average since the turn of the year is just 6.5.

I suppose that could be read a number of ways - a consequence of high possession stats, of a young and naive team that might save itself from conceding a few goals with appropriately timed tactical fouls, or of a team that really doesn't seem to have much stomach at all for a fight.

posted on 23/2/19

Player wise at the minute if we look who going / old / needs replacing

We have a very thin squad and not much cover.
To bring though the youth another season we need 4 players in the 40 million pound range and I can't see us as a club attracting those sort of players,
Rogers is not going to come to Leicester had we finished 6/7 th last season and this
He may have done but he'll go to spurs
Rafa we may have a chance but he's not known for playing youth,
So next manager is vital to get the correct one in and our recruitment badly needs to be looked at again this summer really is going to be premiere league or championship

posted on 23/2/19

Just to add to the above, I don't see that Leicester is a club that's happy to bob around in mid-table. There seems to be an ambition to keep the club in the top third, but to compete with those bigger-hitters you need to be financially savvy and bring youngsters through, because you simply can't go toe-to-toe with them in transfer spending and, especially, wages.

Also, no matter how talented, the kids need to have examples in the team to look up to. From what I've read around here, it sounds like your more seasoned players are too engaged in their own power struggles to actually serve as an example for the youngsters.

Regardless of what happens with Puel, viewed from a distance it seems like you need to look at which of your experienced heads in the dressing room is actually going to get behind the manager and lead those talented kids by example. And as painful as it might be, dispose mercilessly of anyone who's rowing in the wrong direction.

posted on 23/2/19

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 30 seconds ago
Just to add to the above, I don't see that Leicester is a club that's happy to bob around in mid-table. There seems to be an ambition to keep the club in the top third, but to compete with those bigger-hitters you need to be financially savvy and bring youngsters through, because you simply can't go toe-to-toe with them in transfer spending and, especially, wages.

Also, no matter how talented, the kids need to have examples in the team to look up to. From what I've read around here, it sounds like your more seasoned players are too engaged in their own power struggles to actually serve as an example for the youngsters.

Regardless of what happens with Puel, viewed from a distance it seems like you need to look at which of your experienced heads in the dressing room is actually going to get behind the manager and lead those talented kids by example. And as painful as it might be, dispose mercilessly of anyone who's rowing in the wrong direction.
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posted on 23/2/19

comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 25 minutes ago
Agree with the last two posts.

I don’t think our overall structure is wrong. We’re investing in youth, infrastructure and a transfer policy that’s back on track after a tricky couple of windows following the title win.

I personally think Susan Whelan is shrewd and has led us fantastically.

Our issue is simply this. We have a talented squad but we’re one dimensional and easy to predict and beat. Sit deep, soak up our possession and your chances will come.

I know we disagree BS, but my blame personally lies with Puel. You can’t take on this set of players and get them under performing so badly we’re at risk of relegation.

The one thing I’m totally with you and foxello on is that the next managerial appointment is absolutely critical. We need a strong manager that can execute and manage a medium term plan. The first point on that plan has to be getting the current set of players performing to their ability.
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It’s so depressing to read this. There’s just this fingers in the ears mentality across our fan base that absolutely everything lies at the managers door. Like nothing else at the club or how it’s led or decisions made on recruitment have an effect.

It’s like speaking to someone who thinks we are in the 80s and the manager signs the players and does everything else

posted on 23/2/19

I thought we looked good in possession and passed the ball well. But I think like Foxello said you have to make it count!

F-ing score first for once!

posted on 23/2/19

I do think that there is a sizeable chunk of our fanbase who think that everything will be fine once Puel goes. That he alone is the sole proprietor for everything that has gone wrong in recent months. That once he has gone, we'll return to counter attacking football and everything will be OK. I wish I shared that optimism. Most of the bad decisions that have been made in the last 3 years were made pre-Puel.

posted on 23/2/19

Also, some really good, thoughtful comments from it'sonlyagame. The experienced players are really not showing any sort of professionalism for the young newcomers to follow, especially when they seem to be fighting a proxy war against the manager in interviews and via their relatives.

posted on 23/2/19

I don’t think it will all be ok when Puel leaves. But I think it’s a good start.

comment by Beeb (U1841)

posted on 23/2/19

You'll get worse before you get better. Grit your teeth and stay loyal.

posted on 23/2/19

comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 8 minutes ago
I don’t think it will all be ok when Puel leaves. But I think it’s a good start.
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And replace him with who? Because your beloved Eddie Howe isn’t touching us with a barge pole so you’ve basically got Wagner or Rodgers. And if they get supported by the kind of recruitment that brought in Iheanacho for £25m and Ghezzal then how are we going to be much better off?

All that’s going to happen is what’s happened since the title win. New manager bounce, we look great for a few games (remember when puel came in) and then it all goes pear shaped once again. Just like under Shakespeare. Ever wonder why that keeps happening?

posted on 23/2/19

I'm not sure whether it's about an identity as such, I just think the owners are trying to develop a club for the long term and maybe taking their eye off the short term somewhat. They're building this new training facility, which is great. They're planning to expand the stadium, also great. These suck up resources from what might be spent on playing staff, much like Spurs are experiencing as well (although they had a young team that they could largely keep together and have some success with while they did it).

I don't necessarily think we're that far away on that front. And I can see how Puel is a good choice to help in that longer term vision of being a club to bring through young talent, to encourage them and to play with the ball. The problem is that Puel is distinctly average as a manager. He's not great, he's not terrible, just mediocre. He stoical as well, which has helped him to keep the team trying and picking up some surprise results, but we're never going to go anywhere under his stewardship, and right now we're in danger of going backwards and falling down the table because he's taken his eye off the ball somewhat - we have so little experience in midfield that the promising youngsters we have are being left to work matches out for themselves and failing. I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but if he had the choice then he never should have let Iborra go - someone who, for his faults, could control a game and be a midfield general.

If we can get to the end of this season without falling into trouble, which has to be the aim now, then perhaps we can take the view that we now have these promising youngsters, they have some game time, now let's try to bring in a manager who might be able to do more with them.

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