Sport should not be contested by politics yet the idiocy of both countries is such that it has always played a huge part. The divisions caused by the British Raj have grown into something that is now unworkable with both countries refusing to give an inch. Dialogue is the only solution but it won't be happening any time soon.
Let's not pretend either country is innocent in the issues though - Pakistan has known to be a hotbed for extremist terrorism for donkeys years now yet it plainly refuses to accept it has a problem. India on the other hand is a broken society with huge issues of it's own.
Let's be honest we should smash Pakistan comfortably as we are a far better side (an anomaly like the CT final aside)
No winners in a war - only innocent people on both sides pay the ultimate price.
The Pulwama attack was an unfortunate tragedy;one that should be investigated and the perpetrators held accountable. But seems India is more concerned with upholding its anti-Pakistan narrative for a political agenda than actually trying to get justice or finding a solution for the Kashmir issue
Also you only have to look at the aftermath to see how Indian claims wanting Kashmir but treat Kashmiris like aliens
Indian state terrorism is the lion share of terrorism in Kashmir. The "militant" was not Pakistani. He was local, and one who had been tortured and terrorized by Indian security forces. India should take up Imran khans offer or talks and dialogue - war will not resolve this issue
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Admin delete my post lash so why you repeat it
Let’s be respectful
And have Mauture conversations
India is a winner on and off the pitch
A14, you're pretty right with India's inhumane treatment in Kashmir however Pakistan has only compounded the problem, never helped it. The Indian government has had a history of abuse since 1947 but let's not pretend Pakistan is some little kitten when it comes to Kashmir. The propaganda fuelled within Pakistan in the region is a disgrace. Militancy has been fuelled on several occasions by Pakistan which has led to the general public of Kashmir heavily suffering. India's governments reaction can be both condemned and understood - the nationalism borders on insane in both nations as you very well know. Willing to kill over meagre things as religion sadly.
It's always been a case of my Dad's bigger than your Dad and that won't change as politicians and terrorists are not interested in whether or not the general public suffers. Kashmir is one of the most beautiful regions in the world yet it has been destroyed by this stupid dispute.
Kav, Don’t disagree about the beauty of Kashmir, as someone who is from the region..
The previous 2 leaders of Pakistan didn’t help the situation and there were elements of corruption in both... but the point is that Placing the brunt of the blame on Pakistan to misdirect indias public from seeing where the real problem lies - Kashmiri locals, all factors that reiterate what most already know – the independence movement in IoK is now homegrown.- may not work out in India’s favour in the long run.
India’s first reaction after any attack is to blame Pakistan and demand revenge. Why then are so many Indians taking their anger out on Kashmiris, who are legal citizens of India? Why is India so ready blame elsewhere – on Pakistan, on Kashmiris but unwilling to look inwards and see the failure of its Kashmir policy? All proof that India wants the Kashmir valley, but not the Kashmiris. Kashmiris just wont let that happen.
Also on the point of religion... a problem in both countries.. In the aftermath of the Pulwama attack, Muslims have yet again had to prove their patriotism by declaring how much they truly despise Pakistan. It seems that the precondition for a Muslim to be recognised as Indian is to declare hatred for Pakistan.
Javeed jaafri was made to say it a number of times at the insistence of Hindu extremists. Why are Indian Muslims compelled to burn a Pakistani flag to prove they are loyal Indians. Ridiculous
Make yourself and Pakistan county seem peaceful but look what your other Pakistan fans saying on other chat thread. Everyone knows
comment by chooshanguru (U21387)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
Make yourself and Pakistan county seem peaceful but look what your other Pakistan fans saying on other chat thread. Everyone knows
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There is good and bad in all races / religion.
In my opinion 90% of Indians & Pakistani's are decent - it's the minority that cause the problems.
Interesting that Harbajhan Singh ( Monkeygate ) and Azharuddin ( Match Fixing ) both think India should not play against Pakistan, yet India's most respected players, Gavasker & Tendulkar say the game should go ahead.
It’s in human nature for people to claim their rights on every single piece of land. This is mine and this is yours! Reality is no one in this world is going to go with anything they have right now.
As for India Pakistan stuff. It’s impossible to believe that the mentality of both nations is ever going to change. Both sets of people hate each other to the core, and of course politics in general works well when people are divided.
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Pakistan is destined to beat India in the future for sure.Rhat might be in 2019,2067 or in any other year,I am not sure when exactly though.
comment by virudagreat- beating India in india is ..... (U8738)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
It’s in human nature for people to claim their rights on every single piece of land. This is mine and this is yours! Reality is no one in this world is going to go with anything they have right now.
As for India Pakistan stuff. It’s impossible to believe that the mentality of both nations is ever going to change. Both sets of people hate each other to the core, and of course politics in general works well when people are divided.
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Agree with most of that viru, but don’t think Indians and pak hate each other to the core. Certainly not the majority anyway. Think the Kashmiri issue is a biggy and as things stand doesn’t look like things will change anytime soon
Pakistan will be the only winner in the military game, we have reciprocated hostility with good gesture by releasing your pilot who achieved his career best by destroying 13 trees of Pakistan but time will come when our tolerance level will evaporate
Yeah probably exaggerated by saying that. Think the media and politics certainly make it feel that way.
Agreed, there is animosity, 3 wars have been fought in
the last 70 years, had Kashmir issue been resolved , things would have been a lot better
Pakistan have got this I reckon.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 8 hours, 50 minutes ago
Pakistan have got this I reckon.
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comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 14 hours, 31 minutes ago
Pakistan have got this I reckon.
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Sensible poster
What have Pakistan got for you?
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posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
What have Pakistan got for you?
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hostile neighbour
Pakistan have rarely been aggressors vis a vis their neighbours historically.This is a fact even acknowledged by a few unbiased Indian historians & journalists.
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posted on 26/2/19
Sport should not be contested by politics yet the idiocy of both countries is such that it has always played a huge part. The divisions caused by the British Raj have grown into something that is now unworkable with both countries refusing to give an inch. Dialogue is the only solution but it won't be happening any time soon.
Let's not pretend either country is innocent in the issues though - Pakistan has known to be a hotbed for extremist terrorism for donkeys years now yet it plainly refuses to accept it has a problem. India on the other hand is a broken society with huge issues of it's own.
Let's be honest we should smash Pakistan comfortably as we are a far better side (an anomaly like the CT final aside)
posted on 26/2/19
No winners in a war - only innocent people on both sides pay the ultimate price.
The Pulwama attack was an unfortunate tragedy;one that should be investigated and the perpetrators held accountable. But seems India is more concerned with upholding its anti-Pakistan narrative for a political agenda than actually trying to get justice or finding a solution for the Kashmir issue
Also you only have to look at the aftermath to see how Indian claims wanting Kashmir but treat Kashmiris like aliens
Indian state terrorism is the lion share of terrorism in Kashmir. The "militant" was not Pakistani. He was local, and one who had been tortured and terrorized by Indian security forces. India should take up Imran khans offer or talks and dialogue - war will not resolve this issue
posted on 26/2/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 26/2/19
Comment deleted by Article Creator
posted on 26/2/19
Admin delete my post lash so why you repeat it
Let’s be respectful
And have Mauture conversations
India is a winner on and off the pitch
posted on 26/2/19
A14, you're pretty right with India's inhumane treatment in Kashmir however Pakistan has only compounded the problem, never helped it. The Indian government has had a history of abuse since 1947 but let's not pretend Pakistan is some little kitten when it comes to Kashmir. The propaganda fuelled within Pakistan in the region is a disgrace. Militancy has been fuelled on several occasions by Pakistan which has led to the general public of Kashmir heavily suffering. India's governments reaction can be both condemned and understood - the nationalism borders on insane in both nations as you very well know. Willing to kill over meagre things as religion sadly.
It's always been a case of my Dad's bigger than your Dad and that won't change as politicians and terrorists are not interested in whether or not the general public suffers. Kashmir is one of the most beautiful regions in the world yet it has been destroyed by this stupid dispute.
posted on 26/2/19
Kav, Don’t disagree about the beauty of Kashmir, as someone who is from the region..
The previous 2 leaders of Pakistan didn’t help the situation and there were elements of corruption in both... but the point is that Placing the brunt of the blame on Pakistan to misdirect indias public from seeing where the real problem lies - Kashmiri locals, all factors that reiterate what most already know – the independence movement in IoK is now homegrown.- may not work out in India’s favour in the long run.
India’s first reaction after any attack is to blame Pakistan and demand revenge. Why then are so many Indians taking their anger out on Kashmiris, who are legal citizens of India? Why is India so ready blame elsewhere – on Pakistan, on Kashmiris but unwilling to look inwards and see the failure of its Kashmir policy? All proof that India wants the Kashmir valley, but not the Kashmiris. Kashmiris just wont let that happen.
posted on 26/2/19
Also on the point of religion... a problem in both countries.. In the aftermath of the Pulwama attack, Muslims have yet again had to prove their patriotism by declaring how much they truly despise Pakistan. It seems that the precondition for a Muslim to be recognised as Indian is to declare hatred for Pakistan.
Javeed jaafri was made to say it a number of times at the insistence of Hindu extremists. Why are Indian Muslims compelled to burn a Pakistani flag to prove they are loyal Indians. Ridiculous
posted on 26/2/19
Make yourself and Pakistan county seem peaceful but look what your other Pakistan fans saying on other chat thread. Everyone knows
posted on 26/2/19
comment by chooshanguru (U21387)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
Make yourself and Pakistan county seem peaceful but look what your other Pakistan fans saying on other chat thread. Everyone knows
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There is good and bad in all races / religion.
In my opinion 90% of Indians & Pakistani's are decent - it's the minority that cause the problems.
Interesting that Harbajhan Singh ( Monkeygate ) and Azharuddin ( Match Fixing ) both think India should not play against Pakistan, yet India's most respected players, Gavasker & Tendulkar say the game should go ahead.
posted on 1/3/19
It’s in human nature for people to claim their rights on every single piece of land. This is mine and this is yours! Reality is no one in this world is going to go with anything they have right now.
As for India Pakistan stuff. It’s impossible to believe that the mentality of both nations is ever going to change. Both sets of people hate each other to the core, and of course politics in general works well when people are divided.
posted on 1/3/19
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posted on 2/3/19
Pakistan is destined to beat India in the future for sure.Rhat might be in 2019,2067 or in any other year,I am not sure when exactly though.
posted on 2/3/19
Viru I don't hate India!
posted on 2/3/19
comment by virudagreat- beating India in india is ..... (U8738)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
It’s in human nature for people to claim their rights on every single piece of land. This is mine and this is yours! Reality is no one in this world is going to go with anything they have right now.
As for India Pakistan stuff. It’s impossible to believe that the mentality of both nations is ever going to change. Both sets of people hate each other to the core, and of course politics in general works well when people are divided.
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Agree with most of that viru, but don’t think Indians and pak hate each other to the core. Certainly not the majority anyway. Think the Kashmiri issue is a biggy and as things stand doesn’t look like things will change anytime soon
posted on 3/3/19
Pakistan will be the only winner in the military game, we have reciprocated hostility with good gesture by releasing your pilot who achieved his career best by destroying 13 trees of Pakistan but time will come when our tolerance level will evaporate
posted on 3/3/19
Yeah probably exaggerated by saying that. Think the media and politics certainly make it feel that way.
posted on 3/3/19
Agreed, there is animosity, 3 wars have been fought in
the last 70 years, had Kashmir issue been resolved , things would have been a lot better
posted on 5/3/19
Pakistan have got this I reckon.
posted on 6/3/19
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 8 hours, 50 minutes ago
Pakistan have got this I reckon.
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posted on 6/3/19
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 14 hours, 31 minutes ago
Pakistan have got this I reckon.
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Sensible poster
posted on 6/3/19
What have Pakistan got for you?
posted on 6/3/19
comment by chooshanguru (U21387)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
What have Pakistan got for you?
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hostile neighbour
posted on 6/3/19
Pakistan have rarely been aggressors vis a vis their neighbours historically.This is a fact even acknowledged by a few unbiased Indian historians & journalists.
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