I think we probably need to enter into the Rodgers era hoping for a period of mutual benefit. Like others, I fully anticipate that he'll want to move on to bigger and better things, but in order to do so he'll have to be successful with us. The way he left Celtic, and indeed much of this season there, has been suggestive that he's been looking around elsewhere and considering his next move. So we shouldn't expect him to treat us any differently. A couple of seasons, hopefully successful ones, then be realistic that the relationship won't last much longer than that anyway.

At which point we'll likely need to find replacements for both him and Vardy. Which could be fun...

I think Rodgers is a really good fit for us. He’s more flexible than Puel tactically and a much better man manager. As much as I thought Puel got absolute dogs abuse for doing a very very difficult job at Leicester, he wasn’t in the end a good enough manager. He was and is however a very very good coach.

My concern is that Leicester fans now think the worst is over and that Brendan will take us all back to the good old days.

They’re going to be sorely disappointed. He’s got his work cut out big time. We are halfway through a rebuilding project with a pretty uninspired recruitment process. Does he continue with it or implement something new? Let’s see

comment by The Artist formerly known as Black Starr (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think Rodgers is a really good fit for us. He’s more flexible than Puel tactically and a much better man manager. As much as I thought Puel got absolute dogs abuse for doing a very very difficult job at Leicester, he wasn’t in the end a good enough manager. He was and is however a very very good coach.

My concern is that Leicester fans now think the worst is over and that Brendan will take us all back to the good old days.

They’re going to be sorely disappointed. He’s got his work cut out big time. We are halfway through a rebuilding project with a pretty uninspired recruitment process. Does he continue with it or implement something new? Let’s see
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I would like to see him take the FA Cup serious which Puel lost any fan that may of been on his side. Reason being maybe he did not understand our history with it but we basically had nothing to play for this season?

He lost the KP there in my opinion.....

I think Puel was the sort of manager where it was perfectly natural to go through the spectrum of supporting him to wanting him out. That’s because the task was well defined, the strategy was visible and evident and some of the implementation was good:

He needed to evolve the team and phase out some ageing players: tick
He needed to bring through some promising youngsters: tick
He needed to evolve the style of play to something more sustainable: tick

He wasn’t, however, capable of motivating the team. He wasn’t flexible when things weren’t working.
He game management and team selection were sometimes poor and often bizarre.

It felt like the strategy was the right one and you could see the evolution. That’s what made you want him to succeed, but ultimately you just knew, deep down, he wasn’t the man to see it through.

I always start by wanting to give any new manager at least a year, before I pass judgment. I went through the roller coaster with Puel from supporting him, to wanting him out towards the end of last season, to supporting him again this season - before, once again, wanting him out more strongly than ever before. I think that was the way with Puel, but I can’t see many lamenting his demise.

I’m pleased he’s gone and welcome BRodgers - and will try not to judge him too harshly before this time next year.

I think what was missing from Puel was personality. Not just in his interviews or other media relations, but in the way his team played as well. We started slowly, we lacked aggression (yet somehow simultaneously managed to keep on picking up red cards), it rarely felt like we were really taking the game to the opposition, instead wanting to sit back and out-skill them. Most got the idea of there being a long term plan to play more possession-based football and to bring through young players, and many agreed with that; but beyond those surface goals it was hard to see what Puel or the players were trying to achieve.

When Vichai died, Puel was excellent. Perhaps that should be one of the lasting memories we have of him. His non-impassioned, stoical personality was something of a comfort then - someone who was unchanging and could be relied upon to just keep things ticking over at a time of tragedy when it felt like the world had just stopped in one terrible moment.

No doubt many will remember him as dull and boring, but I really hope that he isn't judged too harshly by history. As has been alluded to above, he achieved some dirty work for the club, for which nobody would be heralded and nobody would want to do. The project he started isn't complete by any means, but it is in a healthy state for Rodgers to pick up, particularly with a close season and transfer window coming up without the distraction of a major international tournament. He was a manager of transition, and while it was far from exciting for us as fans, the job he did was not a bad one.

I think Puel’s tenure will be, in part, judges by how we step on under Rodgers.

If we push on and become a solid top 10 team and maybe even win a cup, Puel will be seen as a steady pair of hands who saw through a difficult transition, but needed to make way for the next man.

If we struggle, and Rodgers can’t get this team to realise it’s potential, rightly or wrongly Puel will be seen as the man who played a major role in breaking up the greatest Leicester team ever.

As harsh and as unfair as it sounds, Rodgers has a big responsibility to protect Puel’s legacy.

comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
I think Puel’s tenure will be, in part, judges by how we step on under Rodgers.

If we push on and become a solid top 10 team and maybe even win a cup, Puel will be seen as a steady pair of hands who saw through a difficult transition, but needed to make way for the next man.

If we struggle, and Rodgers can’t get this team to realise it’s potential, rightly or wrongly Puel will be seen as the man who played a major role in breaking up the greatest Leicester team ever.

As harsh and as unfair as it sounds, Rodgers has a big responsibility to protect Puel’s legacy.
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What a bizarre way of looking at it. So it Rodgers fails then it will be Puels fault. Not an indication at all of how difficult a job Puel also had.

And that title winning team had to be broken up anyway, they’re in their 30s FFS

Mersey/BS - I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I take what Mersey says using Pearson for example: He already had a fine legacy here, but it's been greater enhanced by Ranieri winning the title the year after he left. But even so, we have to try to judge a manager - in this case Puel - on what we see right now.

The fact is that Rodgers was quickly on board in wanting to manage the team; Puel kept us up and safe while in charge, which is no mean feat (just ask Southampton fans where they'd rather be between them and us), he has been open to playing young players and not moaned about lack of budget, in particular bringing through Chilwell when he was getting frustrated at lack of game time, only to see him break through into the England team this year. Meanwhile I've watched pundits like Alan Shearer declaring that Leicester is a very attractive job for a manager right now given the state of the club. Granted Puel ultimately wasn't the right man to push the club onwards long term, but he has managed a transition and left the club in a decent state. An awful lot of managers can't say that when they leave their Premier League club, and we've had a number of managers this century who have taken us backwards under their watch.

I'm not saying we should be leaping up and down, lauding King Puel as a great boss of our time. He wasn't. But he's worked toward providing a platform, and one that gives Rodgers and the club the chance to succeed or fail on their own merits.

I think in years to come we will look back and realise what a difficult job Puel had. Did he succeed in implementing the necessary break up of the squad and a transition to youth? No, ultimately he failed, but ultimately Brendan Rodgers will face exactly the same problems Puel had.

Unless he somehow manages to turn Iheanacho into a £25m player.....

I think there's a lot of truth in that, although I would argue that Rodgers has had some of the work done for him on that front. Many new players have been moved in and already transitioned in - Chilwell, Barnes and Choudhury have all had a taste of first team football; Gray's had game time, as have Maddison and Soyuncu (if he makes it. My gut says he won't, but we'll see). Many of the older players are now peripheral, with only really Schmeichel, Vardy and Albrighton set to continue in any real force next season unless something unexpected happens.

What Rodgers has to do now of course is bring the pieces together and improve the performances and results. A different kind of difficult, if you will.

BS - I think you would argue black was white if I commented on that currently. I’m happy with the point I was making. I see Dungeon was able to understand it.

Just so you understand, I’m not saying we “should” judge Puel based on the job Rodgers does. I’m saying that we “will”! If you just rate Puel’s reign based on what we know today, I’d say he did an average job in difficult circumstances.

I do feel that the health of the squad he left us with is still to be determined under Rodgers, and I maintain that will be indicative of his success. As dungeon points out, like how Pearson left beautiful foundations for Ranieri.

What foundations has Puel left behind? I think decent ones to be fair.

Unless he somehow manages to turn Iheanacho into a £25m player.....

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I’m actually very interested to see if Rodgers can get the talented but disaspointing players firing. Iheanacho and Gray both have potential - can rodgers unlock it?

We’ll see if he turns Ghezzal in the the Pele-esque player we all know he can be.

comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 13 minutes ago
BS - I think you would argue black was white if I commented on that currently. I’m happy with the point I was making. I see Dungeon was able to understand it.

Just so you understand, I’m not saying we “should” judge Puel based on the job Rodgers does. I’m saying that we “will”! If you just rate Puel’s reign based on what we know today, I’d say he did an average job in difficult circumstances.

I do feel that the health of the squad he left us with is still to be determined under Rodgers, and I maintain that will be indicative of his success. As dungeon points out, like how Pearson left beautiful foundations for Ranieri.

What foundations has Puel left behind? I think decent ones to be fair.
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If you re-read Dunges post he’s not fully agreeing with you is he? He said the truth is somewhere in between. Perhaps it’s the way you write some of your posts Mersey and the fact you have a bit of a track record for laying as much as you can at the managers door when it comes to the failings of Leicester City.

I think in my mind, anything that happens from now on will be used by you to justify your completely one sided view of Puel. And I mean anything

I don’t think I have a one sided view. I can see his positives.

I think you’re mistaking that with my single minded view that I didn’t believe in him or his plan and wanted him gone without faltering from about 1/3 way in to this season.

I would argue that the last 10 games have justified my view somewhat. Doesn’t mean I don’t agree Puel did some good. He did. All the things people have mentioned. Youth, squad turn over, guidance through the crash.

I can kind of see what Mersey is saying, but I suppose that’s not surprising as I have a long history of echoing his point of view. I believed that Mersey had called Puel out too early, but ultimately I agreed with him that he should go. So maybe it wasn’t too early, but a correct call.

History may judge Puel as not doing a good job, but doing a necessary job. If the likes of Barnes, Choudhury, Chilwell et al all push on next season then Puel will forever be remembered as the guy who had the courage to bring them through. If we do a bit rubbish and they all fail then we may think we’ve treaded water for a season or two. I kind of get that.

One thing Puel can say is that he’s never had us in real relegation trouble. Every other manager we’ve had in the PL since we returned has. He’s protected his legacy somwhat by going now as I feel we would, ultimately, have got to the point whereby we were looking over our shoulder. But we’ll never know now and, despite one poster saying he’s one of the “worst ever managers” personally I think he can only ever be considered mediocre. That kind of suits him: grey, safe, boring.

Joby, do you think one day we’ll find out that you are Yoda to my Skywalker?

Or maybe our world will be turned upside down when we find out the BS is our father?!

I have a feeling that BS would disown us or, at least, try and convert us to the dark side.

"Or maybe our world will be turned upside down when we find out the BS is our father?!"

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Sounds like you see Joby as Leia rather than Yoda.
#spoilers

I dare not ask who i would be but i have a good idea!!!

I'm not sure actually, Nev. Perhaps some questions to help narrow things down:


1. What are your thoughts on the Force?

a) We live it, and it lives within us.
b) Some poky religion that has no place in the modern day. *Makes choking sounds shortly afterwards*
c) When you can do the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs, you don't need to contemplate such things.

2. You are in dire physical danger. What is your response?

a) If they strike me down, I shall become stronger than they can possibly imagine.
b) Flee, I must. Into hiding, I will go. A coward, for some reason nobody will ever describe me.
c) That black helmet looks a good bet.

3. You hear that a sworn enemy has been defeated. What is your response?

a) "Now the good people of the galaxy shall once again be free of tyranny."
b) "Gooood... Gooood..."
c) "RWWAAAAAA"

comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
I'm not sure actually, Nev. Perhaps some questions to help narrow things down:


1. What are your thoughts on the Force?

a) We live it, and it lives within us.
b) Some poky religion that has no place in the modern day. *Makes choking sounds shortly afterwards*
c) When you can do the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs, you don't need to contemplate such things.

2. You are in dire physical danger. What is your response?

a) If they strike me down, I shall become stronger than they can possibly imagine.
b) Flee, I must. Into hiding, I will go. A coward, for some reason nobody will ever describe me.
c) That black helmet looks a good bet.

3. You hear that a sworn enemy has been defeated. What is your response?

a) "Now the good people of the galaxy shall once again be free of tyranny."
b) "Gooood... Gooood..."
c) "RWWAAAAAA"

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😂😂😂 love it

I’m mainly B’s I think 😂

I'm actually a huge Yoda fan and even have a figure on my key-ring. Sad I know!

But, if we're playing, can I be Yoda ...... please ....

Mersey: /Mainly/ B's? Be precise, here. This is serious.


Joby: If Yoda you want to be, give the right answers, you must.

Ok Dung given this the serious thought that your questions merit


1. What are your thoughts on the Force?


c) When you can do the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs, you don't need to contemplate such things.

2. You are in dire physical danger. What is your response?

c) That black helmet looks a good bet.

3. You hear that a sworn enemy has been defeated. What is your response?


c) "RWWAAAAAA"

I hope that helps but i can feel a ja ja binks moment coming on!

Nev - You are...

LANDO CALRISSIAN

While you can give the impression of morally bending in the breeze to suit your own needs, ultimately you can be relied upon to do the right thing.