I think in many ways you're in a similar situation to Arsenal of late but the problem is the chairman instead of the manager.
Wenger done such great stuff for Arsenal in the early years it built him up so much credit that he got away with borderline negligence for the best part of a decade.
With you it's the Chairman, there's no doubt Levy's the key reason for your rise in the last 15 years, but he can't/won't seem to take or even try to take the next step, but because of what he's done in the past he's probably got credit in the bank which was barely touched with the summer window.
There was an article in the Telegraph I think before the Arsenal match where it was about other players fearing Kane would be off soon if we keep on coming short.
I didn't bother reading it as I thought it's basically fake news, but the fact that they are even bothering to publish articles like this when he is bandied about as Mr Tottenham and players like Rose have come out and said that he would never leave started to make me wonder if he does force a move if the board make a mess of things in the near future.
You're going to be defined by your stadium for years to come buddy.
Not sure why everyone singles out Levy for bad treatment, when your billionaire owner Joe Lewis who owns the majority of the shares at Spurs. If Joe decides not to spend his own money then there's nothing Levy can do. Levy's has done a brilliant job at Spurs, considering the lack of investments from your billionaire owner if you ask me.
Kronke gets a lot of deserved criticism , then is why Joe Lewis not getting the same treatment ?
I am with you now Don, new players and new manager needed for the new season. New Broom and all that. The whole thing has gone stale now.
New players and manager??? Add to the squad no problem but in Poch we have a great young manager who deserves backing.
No sandy definitely not new manatee mate, but a big shake up of the team. The team can be improved and anyone who says the 1st 11 can’t be improved are talking bulls**. Recruitment’s is a must this summer.
Agree Don. We really need a major refresh, it's as simple as that.
You won't be buying anybody sandy. Your stadium is half a billion pounds over budget buddy.
Agree that's the main reason for the lack of investment recently, and there won't be any major investments for few more years
Article is spot on. Unfortunately Levy doesn't understand this and we will have another flat net spend.
So frustrating because we are a couple of full backs and a CM away from challenging for the major honours.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 13 minutes ago
No sandy definitely not new manatee mate, but a big shake up of the team. The team can be improved and anyone who says the 1st 11 can’t be improved are talking bulls**. Recruitment’s is a must this summer.
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Don, I think we have to go for all change and that includes the manager mate. Poch has been there five years mate, and not won a bean, it aint changing, and everything looks worse now. Not sure I would trust Poch with any money with some of the players he has brought. If you change players, then you have to change the manager. All clubs do it. Spurs should be no different.
The fact that Levy keeps saying that stadium financing will 100% have NO IMPACT on transfers and money for the team is baffling. Either he is telling the truth and for whatever mind boggling reason Poch didn't spend or he's the biggest shameless lier ever.
There are positions you could improve on. Gk, FBs (both sides) and a CM. That is if you keep everyone else.
Even Pep wants 3-4 signings for next season. You can't afford to sell players and not replace them with quality. Even more so now with the new Stadium.
Walker made the move few years ago and still hasn't been adequately replaced. Rose isn't the player he once was as well as being injury prone and the two Belgiums at the back are around 30. That's close to your whole back line that will need replacing in 2-3 years time. If you guys have a summer like last, you can look over to your north London rivals to see what to expect.
Don, we definitely need to shake up the squad. Can see a couple of our big players leaving but I don’t trust us to get the right players in
My worry ? picture this scene.
Mid 2019/20 season. Spurs sit in their previously accustomed position of 10th to 12th. The Sky 4 + ManC are 15/20 points better, and I role up at our wonderful new stadium to watch an awful 0-0 draw with, say WBA, in front of one of our best attendance of the season, of 30,000. Oh and already out of both cups, and bottom of our Europa league group.
This could happen if the stadium Billion spent cripples us so much that, not only can we not buy players, we have to go back to the old days and have already sold our best players to ManU. Oh and we are managed by an average Manager, because that is all we can attract.
I supported Spurs in the 90's and that, guys, that was what it was like.
Simple message to whoever signs the cheques.... MUST invest in the team/squad no matter what. New stadium won't be worth having if we continue to sit on our hands.
It’s got to be right boys. I’m sick to death of Levy playing dice with our season every summer. It’s time him and ENIC f*** step up this summer and deliver what Pochettino deserves and that’s proper backing. Pointless playing a state of the art stadium if we harbour no ambition to push forward as a club.
Don it is so disappointing that we did not invest in this squad last season and again in the last window when it became apparent to all (apart from Sandy) that new blood was needed, I fear that this squad now needs major surgery and it is probably the end of Pochettino's Golden young squad, Poch himself will probably leave why stay and ruin your reputation, so disappointing if only there had been some minor quality investment regularly .
We have quite a few sellable players if we are smart about it. I would expect these amounts for the below players
Trippier £20m
Davies £20m
Aurier £15m
Wanyama £15m
Then obviously Eriksen and Toby are going so that will be another £100m ish.
The thing is we need to buy quality to replace these platers. £40/50m players which we rarely do.
Can`t argue with any of this Don, time will tell whether Enic have an `end game` or not, and this summer is the time to have proper go or this team will break up.
If I was putting money on it, I would say we will have another break even window with us spending only what we bring in from sales.
It`s going to be fun watching it all unravel, and the sheet storm on here 5 star quality.
We need a couple of quality attacking full backs, a couple of centre midfielders, another striker capable of also playing out wide, and almost certainly replacements for Toby and Eriksen.
That`s quite a large shopping list, of which I have little faith in Levy being able to complete, he just always wants a bargain and hates to pay the going rate for players, which just means business drags on and on instead being swiftly completed.
As you know I agree with you Don. I think we've hit a brick wall now in terms of where we're at and our ambition. We're an established top 4 team and this is what Baldy always wanted. The only way I see any real investment is if a) we look like falling outside of the top 4 and b) we sell any major players for a large amount that may jeopardise our chances of top 4.
Funnily enough, falling outside the top 4 may increase our chances of winning a domestic trophy. Our last 3 finals came when we were outside the top 4, and any season we've been in it our best has been a semi. In terms of winning a title or the CL, that's going to be all on Poch to pull some magic out of the bag.
As far as the signings go, can we expect our cheapskate chairman to go for any real top class players? I'm not sure.
No we can’t Spurtle that’s the thing. I have no trust in our chairman to bring in the required quality.
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. Mopo's #1 fan. (U7905)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
We have quite a few sellable players if we are smart about it. I would expect these amounts for the below players
Trippier £20m
Davies £20m
Aurier £15m
Wanyama £15m
Then obviously Eriksen and Toby are going so that will be another £100m ish.
The thing is we need to buy quality to replace these platers. £40/50m players which we rarely do.
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No way would Spurs get £40 million for Trippier and Davies, try £20 million for both at best.
Another thing that is annoying is the number of young UK talent that we have not even tried to sign in the last few seasons Madison , Hughes and many others
Out: Aurier, Davies, Wanyama, Toby, Eriksen, nkoudou, lamela, Janssen
In: AWB, Tierney, Doucoure, Brooks, Mahrez and Vardy
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posted on 3/3/19
I think in many ways you're in a similar situation to Arsenal of late but the problem is the chairman instead of the manager.
Wenger done such great stuff for Arsenal in the early years it built him up so much credit that he got away with borderline negligence for the best part of a decade.
With you it's the Chairman, there's no doubt Levy's the key reason for your rise in the last 15 years, but he can't/won't seem to take or even try to take the next step, but because of what he's done in the past he's probably got credit in the bank which was barely touched with the summer window.
posted on 3/3/19
There was an article in the Telegraph I think before the Arsenal match where it was about other players fearing Kane would be off soon if we keep on coming short.
I didn't bother reading it as I thought it's basically fake news, but the fact that they are even bothering to publish articles like this when he is bandied about as Mr Tottenham and players like Rose have come out and said that he would never leave started to make me wonder if he does force a move if the board make a mess of things in the near future.
posted on 3/3/19
You're going to be defined by your stadium for years to come buddy.
posted on 3/3/19
Not sure why everyone singles out Levy for bad treatment, when your billionaire owner Joe Lewis who owns the majority of the shares at Spurs. If Joe decides not to spend his own money then there's nothing Levy can do. Levy's has done a brilliant job at Spurs, considering the lack of investments from your billionaire owner if you ask me.
Kronke gets a lot of deserved criticism , then is why Joe Lewis not getting the same treatment ?
posted on 3/3/19
I am with you now Don, new players and new manager needed for the new season. New Broom and all that. The whole thing has gone stale now.
posted on 3/3/19
New players and manager??? Add to the squad no problem but in Poch we have a great young manager who deserves backing.
posted on 3/3/19
No sandy definitely not new manatee mate, but a big shake up of the team. The team can be improved and anyone who says the 1st 11 can’t be improved are talking bulls**. Recruitment’s is a must this summer.
posted on 3/3/19
Agree Don. We really need a major refresh, it's as simple as that.
posted on 3/3/19
You won't be buying anybody sandy. Your stadium is half a billion pounds over budget buddy.
posted on 3/3/19
Agree that's the main reason for the lack of investment recently, and there won't be any major investments for few more years
posted on 3/3/19
Article is spot on. Unfortunately Levy doesn't understand this and we will have another flat net spend.
So frustrating because we are a couple of full backs and a CM away from challenging for the major honours.
posted on 3/3/19
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 13 minutes ago
No sandy definitely not new manatee mate, but a big shake up of the team. The team can be improved and anyone who says the 1st 11 can’t be improved are talking bulls**. Recruitment’s is a must this summer.
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Don, I think we have to go for all change and that includes the manager mate. Poch has been there five years mate, and not won a bean, it aint changing, and everything looks worse now. Not sure I would trust Poch with any money with some of the players he has brought. If you change players, then you have to change the manager. All clubs do it. Spurs should be no different.
posted on 3/3/19
The fact that Levy keeps saying that stadium financing will 100% have NO IMPACT on transfers and money for the team is baffling. Either he is telling the truth and for whatever mind boggling reason Poch didn't spend or he's the biggest shameless lier ever.
posted on 3/3/19
There are positions you could improve on. Gk, FBs (both sides) and a CM. That is if you keep everyone else.
Even Pep wants 3-4 signings for next season. You can't afford to sell players and not replace them with quality. Even more so now with the new Stadium.
Walker made the move few years ago and still hasn't been adequately replaced. Rose isn't the player he once was as well as being injury prone and the two Belgiums at the back are around 30. That's close to your whole back line that will need replacing in 2-3 years time. If you guys have a summer like last, you can look over to your north London rivals to see what to expect.
posted on 3/3/19
Don, we definitely need to shake up the squad. Can see a couple of our big players leaving but I don’t trust us to get the right players in
posted on 3/3/19
My worry ? picture this scene.
Mid 2019/20 season. Spurs sit in their previously accustomed position of 10th to 12th. The Sky 4 + ManC are 15/20 points better, and I role up at our wonderful new stadium to watch an awful 0-0 draw with, say WBA, in front of one of our best attendance of the season, of 30,000. Oh and already out of both cups, and bottom of our Europa league group.
This could happen if the stadium Billion spent cripples us so much that, not only can we not buy players, we have to go back to the old days and have already sold our best players to ManU. Oh and we are managed by an average Manager, because that is all we can attract.
I supported Spurs in the 90's and that, guys, that was what it was like.
Simple message to whoever signs the cheques.... MUST invest in the team/squad no matter what. New stadium won't be worth having if we continue to sit on our hands.
posted on 3/3/19
It’s got to be right boys. I’m sick to death of Levy playing dice with our season every summer. It’s time him and ENIC f*** step up this summer and deliver what Pochettino deserves and that’s proper backing. Pointless playing a state of the art stadium if we harbour no ambition to push forward as a club.
posted on 3/3/19
Don it is so disappointing that we did not invest in this squad last season and again in the last window when it became apparent to all (apart from Sandy) that new blood was needed, I fear that this squad now needs major surgery and it is probably the end of Pochettino's Golden young squad, Poch himself will probably leave why stay and ruin your reputation, so disappointing if only there had been some minor quality investment regularly .
posted on 3/3/19
We have quite a few sellable players if we are smart about it. I would expect these amounts for the below players
Trippier £20m
Davies £20m
Aurier £15m
Wanyama £15m
Then obviously Eriksen and Toby are going so that will be another £100m ish.
The thing is we need to buy quality to replace these platers. £40/50m players which we rarely do.
posted on 3/3/19
Can`t argue with any of this Don, time will tell whether Enic have an `end game` or not, and this summer is the time to have proper go or this team will break up.
If I was putting money on it, I would say we will have another break even window with us spending only what we bring in from sales.
It`s going to be fun watching it all unravel, and the sheet storm on here 5 star quality.
We need a couple of quality attacking full backs, a couple of centre midfielders, another striker capable of also playing out wide, and almost certainly replacements for Toby and Eriksen.
That`s quite a large shopping list, of which I have little faith in Levy being able to complete, he just always wants a bargain and hates to pay the going rate for players, which just means business drags on and on instead being swiftly completed.
posted on 3/3/19
As you know I agree with you Don. I think we've hit a brick wall now in terms of where we're at and our ambition. We're an established top 4 team and this is what Baldy always wanted. The only way I see any real investment is if a) we look like falling outside of the top 4 and b) we sell any major players for a large amount that may jeopardise our chances of top 4.
Funnily enough, falling outside the top 4 may increase our chances of winning a domestic trophy. Our last 3 finals came when we were outside the top 4, and any season we've been in it our best has been a semi. In terms of winning a title or the CL, that's going to be all on Poch to pull some magic out of the bag.
As far as the signings go, can we expect our cheapskate chairman to go for any real top class players? I'm not sure.
posted on 3/3/19
No we can’t Spurtle that’s the thing. I have no trust in our chairman to bring in the required quality.
posted on 3/3/19
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. Mopo's #1 fan. (U7905)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
We have quite a few sellable players if we are smart about it. I would expect these amounts for the below players
Trippier £20m
Davies £20m
Aurier £15m
Wanyama £15m
Then obviously Eriksen and Toby are going so that will be another £100m ish.
The thing is we need to buy quality to replace these platers. £40/50m players which we rarely do.
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No way would Spurs get £40 million for Trippier and Davies, try £20 million for both at best.
posted on 3/3/19
Another thing that is annoying is the number of young UK talent that we have not even tried to sign in the last few seasons Madison , Hughes and many others
posted on 3/3/19
Out: Aurier, Davies, Wanyama, Toby, Eriksen, nkoudou, lamela, Janssen
In: AWB, Tierney, Doucoure, Brooks, Mahrez and Vardy
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