Thought all of it made sense and it was the right ending for most of the characters. The issues with it were mainly down to the run up to it and it really should have been ten episodes, but every arc of the main characters finished in the right way, Jon in particular.

I was fine with that as ending. Just wish they’d done a few more on the run up to it.
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I did find it interesting how many characters closed the show having their character arcs regressed, many of them by choice.

Jaime - back to love before duty
Hound - back to petty vengeance
Dany - back to wanting power without reward
Jon - back to the watch
Tyrion - back to playing the game without purpose
Bran - back to being just a guy who next in line to power

Hilariously one of the only examples of a character becoming something more than people expected him to was Bronn, being on the king's council as opposed to hanging his boots in his very well earned castle

I would agree with that, melts, apart from Bran. Which is the biggest conclusion to the series. Maybe because the build up to it was so badly written I feel that way, but they had 8 series to write his character and it just felt like a weak conclusion.

I honestly think they’d have been better off concluding without a monarch of the six kingdoms rather than Bran.

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comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Don't understand the hate for that episode. Bar a couple of minor things it tied it up in a palatable way.

I enjoyed it.
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With you on that.i quite like season 8, sone incredible battles.

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Bran ending up king made sense, the issue with him was that they didn’t do enough on the run up - he needed a couple of episodes worth really to set it up for it fully. The talk him and Tyrion had the night before the battle with the NK in particular.

I wouldn’t say any of them are regressions really to the other point, it’s showing the cyclical nature of the game but all of them still developed and ultimately ended up in the right position.

Tyrion is back where he was best as the hand, but this time doesn’t have a ruler that will always default to brutality (those saying Danerys’s madness wasn’t foreshadowed enough have completely missed the point - it wasn’t madness as such, it was who she’s always been, it’s just people are blind to it when they perceive the victims are worse. She’s always been an awful ruler who doesn’t actually sort out the lives of who is left, she moves on to the next battle).

Jon is back free north of the wall in the only place he isn’t weighed down by the duty that has trapped him all his life. He’s done everything asked of him and has earned his freedom.

Sansa has gotten what the Starks have always wanted - independence for the north and with her brother on the throne has no fear of civil war breaking out again.

Arya is off on her next journey, this time one she can do completely by herself.

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Sorry, meant to end that with they’ve all ended up back in the same places they’ve been before but all of them can finally deal with it.

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 minutes ago

Arya is off on her next journey, this time one she can do completely by herself.


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'by herself' you mean rely on the crew and captain to sail her everywhere as she doesnt know a single thing about it

wish the show had got cancelled at the end of season 4

And one final thing!

The scene where Dany dies - from the moment that Jon walks up to Drogon to him flying away with her is one of the best GoT has ever done. From Dany essentially turning into Vicerys, Jon realising her world involves no free will for anyone but them, to Drogon killing what really killed his mother was all just stunningly done.

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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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Arya is off on her next journey, this time one she can do completely by herself.


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'by herself' you mean rely on the crew and captain to sail her everywhere as she doesnt know a single thing about it
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I meant emotionally by herself. No hound, no Jaqar, no Gendry etc. And no revenge as a reason for it.

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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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Arya is off on her next journey, this time one she can do completely by herself.


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'by herself' you mean rely on the crew and captain to sail her everywhere as she doesnt know a single thing about it
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I don’t think a couple of episodes could have justified it for me. It’s the one conclusion I really have a problem with, and the character as a whole. The rest I can get on board with, despite the execution, particularly Jaime Lannister - I think it was the one that made the most sense, and it was an arc that could actually flip that quickly given the realisation of the situation with Cersei, so I have no time for the people crying about his redemption story being piiiiiissed on.

comment by NPE (U22020)
posted 18 minutes ago
I guess it depends what you like in the show. I never cared for the battles that much, they were impressive, but I could watch Marvel movies if I just want spectacle.

What made Game of Thrones were scenes like these ones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTgiPmG7OLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvX4k_3Cmvs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6GW03WsFgU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFZen-XO5II

Which essentially dried up after about season 5.
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The last of highgarden was awesome, love her sardonic wit.

With Brann?

I only really thought it needed a few more scenes showing where he was going when the NK battle was going on and making a bit more explicit how much he was putting everything in place for it to happen.

That and a few of the scenes they showed off camera that were inexplicably not shown. The point with him being king is that he won’t get involved in anything, he’ll be off looking at where the main issues could come from (like Drogon). The council will be allowed to be the council

That was horrific

but for me that just doesn’t seem like a natural progression of that character, so a couple of episodes doing as you say still doesn’t sit right with me. I think he was the worst written character in the whole series. He was built up as an unbelievably powerful adversary of the Knight King to then become bate. An altruistic character whose motivation was to save man, to a seemingly scheming know it all whose goal becomes the Iron Throne.

Him not being involved in anything as king renders his kingship pointless, in my opinion. Maybe it’s just because I’ve never found anything particularly likeable about the character that I can’t get on board with it. But I dislike Sansa as well and would have actually been fine with her ‘taking the Iron Throne’.

He is involved though, he’s involved with the big things that could possibly impact the realm, which is exactly what they want the king to do.

I think I’m agreeing with you though in that I see it is an issue with the writing of the character due to the scenes missing. If you take the NK battle, it wasn’t just that he was just bait for the NK, he was manipulating everyone else to be in the right place too. They only really alluded to it once really though (in giving Arya the dagger) which was stupid as they made him look exactly as you describe as it was just knowing glances in the battle as it unfolded.

But you just said he wouldn’t be involved with anything. It just seemed an unnecessary choice to me. Everything he’d done in the series had always been implied, he’s a hand rather than a king for me. I get your points but it’s just not a conclusion I’ll ever be happy with.

No, sorry, I meant in terms of in comparison to previous kings. He's more the protector of the realm that Varys always referred to and will allow others to just do their jobs.

I'm agreeing with you its all being implied though, I think we're both saying the writing hasn't been good enough for the character. I'm just saying that if they had fleshed out certain aspects then having brann as king works for me. They've essentially chosen wisdom
over strength.

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Melts, fair play I see what you are saying. For me they’d have just had to completely rewrite the character. But I just don’t like him so I’m probably not being that objective about it.

Ha!

I'm not overly keen on him either, again because I don't think they got the writing of him right even in the earlier seasons.