comment by Superb (U6486)
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comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
I'm glad I'm not a diehard Star Wars fan because I have a feeling they will ruin that too.
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Will ? Presumably you didn't see the abortion that was The Last Jedi.

Sadly this level of brain-dead writing is becoming more and more commonplace in big movies and TV shows. They must think that the general public have an average IQ of about ten.
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Force awakens was pretty meh too.
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Yup.
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So far from ruin Star Wars, they’ll probably improve it imo.

Another glaring issue with the last episode of GOT is why were no conditions set between Winterfell and the six kingdoms to make sure that there will be a continued peace between the two states regardless of who rules in the future ?

Surely Winterfell becoming it's own independent state will only be asking for problems when some power hungry future king or queen of the six kingdoms wants to reclaim Winterfell. What's to stop him/her doing that? Especially as they'll obviously have a much bigger army than Winterfell.

Where are the guarantees? It's just begging for future wars and conflict. Just because the future king or queen will be elected by the council there are no guarantees that ruler won't be a tyrant like Cercei, Joffrey or Daenerys were.

Also there's no way that the other kingdoms wouldn't ask to be independent as well and would see Winterfell alone gaining independence as getting unfair favouritism. It's just not a realistic scenario.

comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
I'm glad I'm not a diehard Star Wars fan because I have a feeling they will ruin that too.
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Will ? Presumably you didn't see the abortion that was The Last Jedi.

Sadly this level of brain-dead writing is becoming more and more commonplace in big movies and TV shows. They must think that the general public have an average IQ of about ten.
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Force awakens was pretty meh too.
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Yup.
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So far from ruin Star Wars, they’ll probably improve it imo.
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Well they couldn't make it any worse than this new trilogy has been after two movies. Well and truly in the toilet.

Superb- absoultely. While enterataining enough, sone awful decisions, a main character -rey- who you want someone to murder, she’s so annoying. Weak bad guys, stupid dialog - ‘am I on hold?’ Says the general of the empire, since when has their been phones in Star Wars? Such a daft attempt at humour.

comment by 50... (U1147)
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
Bran will become king, Jon will kill Dany and re take the black and become 1000th commander of nights watch
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Got it bang on, though wtf did Jon go beyond the wall going to night watch was bad enough!

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So Jon becomes a wildling in the end. We can't even be sure but he goes past the walls with the wildlings. Was that supposed to be some genius ending?


Grey Worm brings Tyrion out and says the City is under the control of the unsullied and Jon is their prisoner. So what did he want from the others? Why not just kill Jon and Tyrion? What stopped him?

He then allows them to pick a king. Why?

A king would mean the unsullied are no longer in charge. The new King then overrules and frees Grey worm's prisoners.

Its a bit of a comedy there. If you're not sure just watch it again. Makes no sense how Grey worm cons himself out of control of the city and the right to get "justice" by executing the queenslayer and The traitorous hand of the queen. He just gives it away.

Just one of many things that were comedic about the end.

They got nervous or too full of themselves or too confident.

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else, even on Reddit but what happened to wildfire? Was it all used up?

Wildfire was a part of the show in past seasons. The army of the dead comes, they mine a mountain of dragon glass and send men to their deaths with no mention of wildfire?

They should have rigged the field with wildfire or flung it from the castle walls etc. It should have been the primary weapon IMO.

Isn't it some ancient thing, like valyrian steel blacksmiths, not many people know how to make/mix it.

Aaah.

That would make sense.

Still they could have written it in. Any logical scenario would have the characters at least trying to obtain wildfire anyway but wildfire wasn't even mentioned.

You could see wildfire going off when Dany was burning King's Landing. Maybe Cersei planted it around the city for some reason?

The mad king put it there. Cersie isn’t going to give her enemies wildfire when they have dragons so it makes sense they didn’t have any.

Think a lot of the subtext in ‘the bells’ was missed by the furore over dany’s sudden change. I went back and watched a couple of episodes, and aside hardhome, at random of season 4-7. And in 2 of the 3 random ones viewed, I saw dany, make a threat to 2 different cities, to burnvtheb to the ground.

It was well telegraphed. Especially given who surrounded her as advisor at the time.

Watch the bells back and look at it from ceraie’s complete viewpoint in her mastery of the world, and in particular kings landing. And how bit by bit it falls apart. I think it’s great.

It will be looked on well in the future.. Imo.

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It will be looked on well in the future.. Imo.
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I really doubt that.

Cersei, the wine soaked assuredness slowly crumbling, in time with the city. The first defences fall, it’s ok, I’ve got the fleet, they’ve killed dragons.

That’s gone too. The change is superbly done. Very subtle. Shaky at the point the mountain disobeys her. Her maestro, his creator, cast aside like nothing..and then, on the map of westeros, her stomping ground, no one but her left as it crumbles all around. By the time she sees Jamie in the dungeon, she’s a wreck. From all conquerer to nothing.

The symbolism is superb..

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 17 seconds ago
It will be looked on well in the future.. Imo.
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I really doubt that.
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It will be. They skipped the intracsy’s for impact. It’s very well done, from a direction viewpoint. Storylines, delibately need stretched out a bit, but it was well done.

It really won’t. Its reputation has now been set in stone. When something so big is so negatively received time won’t rectify the damage.

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 23 seconds ago
It really won’t. Its reputation has now been set in stone. When something so big is so negatively received time won’t rectify the damage.
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I’m done wats you may be right. But it’s not all been negatively viewed.they made the mistake of condensing it took much, which left out the time to build up to the flaws people are complaining about. Most of these were quite well conveyed though.

And front a technical perspective (aside the off bottle/costa cup gaff) its excellent.

I felt like you the first time watching the bells, and the winter fell zombie one, but they are superb on another viewing. A complaint about the winter fell zombie one was ‘it’s too dark’. Yeah; expecting national trust strip lights, and a visitors card and tea shop in a medieval castle were you?

Also were you expecting an unlimited budget for it too?

(Not you personally Darren- addressing the complaints about people who have no idea how the industry works)..

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Other than the long night there weren’t too many visual complaints, not disputing that as it was, and always has been, excellent in this regard. But you just cannot get away from the writing of the series, and the final two episodes in particular. And that’s the biggest complaint, I don’t think it will be viewed well in time because of that - those glaring flaws will still be there on second, third and fourth viewing.

I cannot think of any example of tv or film to have been received so negatively, to then completely rebuild its reputation to be viewed well years later. Not on the scale of Game of Thrones anyway.

NPE, but on the scale of this? It’s difficult to compare it to Kubrik given how media is nowadays. I’d be very surprised if this season’s reputation is saved a few years down the line.

comment by NPE (U22020)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 12 minutes ago
It really won’t. Its reputation has now been set in stone. When something so big is so negatively received time won’t rectify the damage.
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Not true at all.

Numerous films and TV shows an books which were panned on release are now seen as classics.

It happened with nearly ever Kubrick film for a start.

Not saying it will happen with GoT, but I could see people rewatching it in a years time when the heat has died down a little. Will probably still see it as a disappointment but not the disasterpiece some claim it to be.
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Exactly what I’m saying there’s been too much emotional investment in certain characters, and people are upset in how it works out.

It’s a classics. Way up there, for all it’s flaws.

I see people mosining about the directir/producers getting Star Wars gigs. Good. Maybe they can imagine who good that universe would be if everything wasn’t so predictable..they’ll shake it up. Give them the marvel gig too, they’ve shown them up big time too.

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
NPE, but on the scale of this? It’s difficult to compare it to Kubrik given how media is nowadays. I’d be very surprised if this season’s reputation is saved a few years down the line.
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In story terms... not sure. Still pretty epic, rushed, but epic. Technical terms, wiping the floor with most out there.