comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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And missing out on the CL 3/4 times is not Sarri’s daily - that’s indicative of a much bigger problem at the club, a lack of a long term vision which has allowed teams that have given their managers time and resources to overtake us. Sack Sarri and we’re back to square one - again.
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 8 seconds ago
Osdude, considering that Sarri has never won a trophy or title before with his style of play, what reason do we have to believe that persisting with him will lead to us winning a title?
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We dont, but where s the harm in seeing where it can take us, who really knows anything unles you gis it a proper go, i for one think itx the right way of playing,
It would have been much easier for sarri if the players were used to playing football his way, trying to change routine within such group of playefs who wield so much power, is a task for anyone, he s done well, and given more time he ll do better,
However its that thing again, time
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The harm is if we won't get CL this year, that's two years in a row out of the CL with no guarantee of getting back into it next year AND this transfer ban shiiit. The club cannot afford to be gambling on this guy right now in my opinion.
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So what do you suggest dare i ask, get rid, finish 4th is that guaranteed, is that the plan?
Wait a sec is this wahldude?
Even so, he s not alone within the moden era spoilt fans
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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No one expected us to win the CL that year. The opinion of most Chelsea fans at that time was that the team was past it and most of the players who had won the league for Ancelotti a couple of years earlier needed to be replaced as they were past their best. We were absolutely ready to go into transition and get rid of players like Drogba, Anelka, Malouda etc. We'd already replaced Drogba with Torres and Malouda with Mata after all The expectation for the season, as I remember, was to finish in the top 4 and transition to AVB's style that he had used at Porto. It's the same situation as now, pretty much exactly.
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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No one expected us to win the CL that year. The opinion of most Chelsea fans at that time was that the team was past it and most of the players who had won the league for Ancelotti a couple of years earlier needed to be replaced as they were past their best. We were absolutely ready to go into transition and get rid of players like Drogba, Anelka, Malouda etc. We'd already replaced Drogba with Torres and Malouda with Mata after all The expectation for the season, as I remember, was to finish in the top 4 and transition to AVB's style that he had used at Porto. It's the same situation as now, pretty much exactly.
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It really isn’t but you’re entitled to your opinion.
Nah, extremely harsh to blame that result on Sarri.
Line up was good. Fully understood Kovacic playing knowing Wolves could hurt us on the counter attack, Barkley & RLC would've been too open.
I wasn't convinced by any of the subs as they were happening but all three of them catered to fan desires - RLC/CHO both on early, Jorginho off + switching to the 4231. No-one should complain about any of them.
We defended very well, bar one collective lapse of concentration we shut down their potent counter very well. We just lacked that spark in attack against an extremely good defensive setup.
Just a random thought that entered my head at the end of the game, sort what linked to your article Flash about trust in Sarri. If he was to be sacked at the end of the season, I wouldn't be averse to the idea of Nuno replacing him. Very promising young pragmatic manager who knows how to execute a game by game plan.
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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No one expected us to win the CL that year. The opinion of most Chelsea fans at that time was that the team was past it and most of the players who had won the league for Ancelotti a couple of years earlier needed to be replaced as they were past their best. We were absolutely ready to go into transition and get rid of players like Drogba, Anelka, Malouda etc. We'd already replaced Drogba with Torres and Malouda with Mata after all The expectation for the season, as I remember, was to finish in the top 4 and transition to AVB's style that he had used at Porto. It's the same situation as now, pretty much exactly.
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As you said before, we’ve missed out on CL football 2 out of 3 years now. When AVB cane in we hadn’t missed out on CL football for almost a decade - it was unthinkable that we wouldn’t be top 4, in a much much weaker league. Under Sarri, top 4 would be overachieving with this squad, we have the 5th best squad in the league.
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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And missing out on the CL 3/4 times is not Sarri’s daily - that’s indicative of a much bigger problem at the club, a lack of a long term vision which has allowed teams that have given their managers time and resources to overtake us. Sack Sarri and we’re back to square one - again.
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So because Man City and Liverpool have succeeded with the long term approach, that's the only way to succeed? Surely we as a club disprove that with our success under Mourinho, Ancelotti, Conte and even Di Matteo? Don't forget as well that City and Liverpool have taken the best 'long term' managers already. We're settling for the B-level Guardiola basically with Sarri.
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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And missing out on the CL 3/4 times is not Sarri’s daily - that’s indicative of a much bigger problem at the club, a lack of a long term vision which has allowed teams that have given their managers time and resources to overtake us. Sack Sarri and we’re back to square one - again.
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So because Man City and Liverpool have succeeded with the long term approach, that's the only way to succeed? Surely we as a club disprove that with our success under Mourinho, Ancelotti, Conte and even Di Matteo? Don't forget as well that City and Liverpool have taken the best 'long term' managers already. We're settling for the B-level Guardiola basically with Sarri.
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That’s the past - football is different now
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 12 minutes ago
Nah, extremely harsh to blame that result on Sarri.
Line up was good. Fully understood Kovacic playing knowing Wolves could hurt us on the counter attack, Barkley & RLC would've been too open.
I wasn't convinced by any of the subs as they were happening but all three of them catered to fan desires - RLC/CHO both on early, Jorginho off + switching to the 4231. No-one should complain about any of them.
We defended very well, bar one collective lapse of concentration we shut down their potent counter very well. We just lacked that spark in attack against an extremely good defensive setup.
Just a random thought that entered my head at the end of the game, sort what linked to your article Flash about trust in Sarri. If he was to be sacked at the end of the season, I wouldn't be averse to the idea of Nuno replacing him. Very promising young pragmatic manager who knows how to execute a game by game plan.
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I thought we’re moving from that type of football. They had two touches in our half and scored from that. I wouldn’t want that style of football. I know we’re not where we want to be yet, but have to faith in what you believe it’s going to succeed. Top 4 is not out of reach, and still within a chance to win the EL.
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Not whilst the number 5 is slowing down play letting the other side funnel back and giving the ball away.
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save it Sideshow. He gives away the ball too often and passes go no where that is threatening the opponent
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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And missing out on the CL 3/4 times is not Sarri’s daily - that’s indicative of a much bigger problem at the club, a lack of a long term vision which has allowed teams that have given their managers time and resources to overtake us. Sack Sarri and we’re back to square one - again.
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So because Man City and Liverpool have succeeded with the long term approach, that's the only way to succeed? Surely we as a club disprove that with our success under Mourinho, Ancelotti, Conte and even Di Matteo? Don't forget as well that City and Liverpool have taken the best 'long term' managers already. We're settling for the B-level Guardiola basically with Sarri.
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That’s the past - football is different now
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We won the league with Conte two years ago.
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 42 seconds ago
A large majority of our fans want that football
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That’s understandable, we’ve been successful whilst playing pragmatic football. It takes time to move from one style to another, and it’s showing this season.
Why do we have to move to another style? Atletico Madrid tear it up every season playing 'pragmatic' football. We used to tear it up every season playing pragmatic.
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jorginho is one of the few midfielders we have who moves the ball quickly
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Agree.
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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And missing out on the CL 3/4 times is not Sarri’s daily - that’s indicative of a much bigger problem at the club, a lack of a long term vision which has allowed teams that have given their managers time and resources to overtake us. Sack Sarri and we’re back to square one - again.
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So because Man City and Liverpool have succeeded with the long term approach, that's the only way to succeed? Surely we as a club disprove that with our success under Mourinho, Ancelotti, Conte and even Di Matteo? Don't forget as well that City and Liverpool have taken the best 'long term' managers already. We're settling for the B-level Guardiola basically with Sarri.
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That’s the past - football is different now
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We won the league with Conte two years ago.
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And then finished 6th, when he had a full schedule to contend with. Add to that, Conte’s title win was before Klopp and Pep got their projects to the point they’re at now. City got 100 points last year, both of the top 2 are on course to get 90+ this year. That’s our new reality.
Also, we’re now unable to blow other teams out of the market in terms of transfer fees/ wages in a way that we used to under most of the managers you have mentioned above. The whole football landscape has changed, we either move with the times or get left behind which is exactly what City and Liverpool have done to us.
comment by The Power of Now (U20893)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jorginho is one of the few midfielders we have who moves the ball quickly
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Agree.
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Where are those passes going? sideways backwards. Why is he losing possesion so often? He's puts us in danger when he does. I expected better for the price. He is not suited to this league where the pace is high and he doesn't get time on the ball. Guys a joke. No coincidence we started to get shots at goal once he left the field.
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comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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And missing out on the CL 3/4 times is not Sarri’s daily - that’s indicative of a much bigger problem at the club, a lack of a long term vision which has allowed teams that have given their managers time and resources to overtake us. Sack Sarri and we’re back to square one - again.
posted on 10/3/19
*not Sarri’s fault
posted on 10/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 8 seconds ago
Osdude, considering that Sarri has never won a trophy or title before with his style of play, what reason do we have to believe that persisting with him will lead to us winning a title?
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We dont, but where s the harm in seeing where it can take us, who really knows anything unles you gis it a proper go, i for one think itx the right way of playing,
It would have been much easier for sarri if the players were used to playing football his way, trying to change routine within such group of playefs who wield so much power, is a task for anyone, he s done well, and given more time he ll do better,
However its that thing again, time
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The harm is if we won't get CL this year, that's two years in a row out of the CL with no guarantee of getting back into it next year AND this transfer ban shiiit. The club cannot afford to be gambling on this guy right now in my opinion.
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So what do you suggest dare i ask, get rid, finish 4th is that guaranteed, is that the plan?
posted on 10/3/19
Wait a sec is this wahldude?
posted on 10/3/19
Even so, he s not alone within the moden era spoilt fans
posted on 10/3/19
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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No one expected us to win the CL that year. The opinion of most Chelsea fans at that time was that the team was past it and most of the players who had won the league for Ancelotti a couple of years earlier needed to be replaced as they were past their best. We were absolutely ready to go into transition and get rid of players like Drogba, Anelka, Malouda etc. We'd already replaced Drogba with Torres and Malouda with Mata after all The expectation for the season, as I remember, was to finish in the top 4 and transition to AVB's style that he had used at Porto. It's the same situation as now, pretty much exactly.
posted on 10/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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No one expected us to win the CL that year. The opinion of most Chelsea fans at that time was that the team was past it and most of the players who had won the league for Ancelotti a couple of years earlier needed to be replaced as they were past their best. We were absolutely ready to go into transition and get rid of players like Drogba, Anelka, Malouda etc. We'd already replaced Drogba with Torres and Malouda with Mata after all The expectation for the season, as I remember, was to finish in the top 4 and transition to AVB's style that he had used at Porto. It's the same situation as now, pretty much exactly.
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It really isn’t but you’re entitled to your opinion.
posted on 10/3/19
Nah, extremely harsh to blame that result on Sarri.
Line up was good. Fully understood Kovacic playing knowing Wolves could hurt us on the counter attack, Barkley & RLC would've been too open.
I wasn't convinced by any of the subs as they were happening but all three of them catered to fan desires - RLC/CHO both on early, Jorginho off + switching to the 4231. No-one should complain about any of them.
We defended very well, bar one collective lapse of concentration we shut down their potent counter very well. We just lacked that spark in attack against an extremely good defensive setup.
Just a random thought that entered my head at the end of the game, sort what linked to your article Flash about trust in Sarri. If he was to be sacked at the end of the season, I wouldn't be averse to the idea of Nuno replacing him. Very promising young pragmatic manager who knows how to execute a game by game plan.
posted on 10/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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No one expected us to win the CL that year. The opinion of most Chelsea fans at that time was that the team was past it and most of the players who had won the league for Ancelotti a couple of years earlier needed to be replaced as they were past their best. We were absolutely ready to go into transition and get rid of players like Drogba, Anelka, Malouda etc. We'd already replaced Drogba with Torres and Malouda with Mata after all The expectation for the season, as I remember, was to finish in the top 4 and transition to AVB's style that he had used at Porto. It's the same situation as now, pretty much exactly.
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As you said before, we’ve missed out on CL football 2 out of 3 years now. When AVB cane in we hadn’t missed out on CL football for almost a decade - it was unthinkable that we wouldn’t be top 4, in a much much weaker league. Under Sarri, top 4 would be overachieving with this squad, we have the 5th best squad in the league.
posted on 10/3/19
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
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comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
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comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
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The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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And missing out on the CL 3/4 times is not Sarri’s daily - that’s indicative of a much bigger problem at the club, a lack of a long term vision which has allowed teams that have given their managers time and resources to overtake us. Sack Sarri and we’re back to square one - again.
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So because Man City and Liverpool have succeeded with the long term approach, that's the only way to succeed? Surely we as a club disprove that with our success under Mourinho, Ancelotti, Conte and even Di Matteo? Don't forget as well that City and Liverpool have taken the best 'long term' managers already. We're settling for the B-level Guardiola basically with Sarri.
posted on 10/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
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comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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And missing out on the CL 3/4 times is not Sarri’s daily - that’s indicative of a much bigger problem at the club, a lack of a long term vision which has allowed teams that have given their managers time and resources to overtake us. Sack Sarri and we’re back to square one - again.
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So because Man City and Liverpool have succeeded with the long term approach, that's the only way to succeed? Surely we as a club disprove that with our success under Mourinho, Ancelotti, Conte and even Di Matteo? Don't forget as well that City and Liverpool have taken the best 'long term' managers already. We're settling for the B-level Guardiola basically with Sarri.
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That’s the past - football is different now
posted on 10/3/19
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 12 minutes ago
Nah, extremely harsh to blame that result on Sarri.
Line up was good. Fully understood Kovacic playing knowing Wolves could hurt us on the counter attack, Barkley & RLC would've been too open.
I wasn't convinced by any of the subs as they were happening but all three of them catered to fan desires - RLC/CHO both on early, Jorginho off + switching to the 4231. No-one should complain about any of them.
We defended very well, bar one collective lapse of concentration we shut down their potent counter very well. We just lacked that spark in attack against an extremely good defensive setup.
Just a random thought that entered my head at the end of the game, sort what linked to your article Flash about trust in Sarri. If he was to be sacked at the end of the season, I wouldn't be averse to the idea of Nuno replacing him. Very promising young pragmatic manager who knows how to execute a game by game plan.
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I thought we’re moving from that type of football. They had two touches in our half and scored from that. I wouldn’t want that style of football. I know we’re not where we want to be yet, but have to faith in what you believe it’s going to succeed. Top 4 is not out of reach, and still within a chance to win the EL.
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Not whilst the number 5 is slowing down play letting the other side funnel back and giving the ball away.
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posted on 10/3/19
save it Sideshow. He gives away the ball too often and passes go no where that is threatening the opponent
posted on 10/3/19
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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And missing out on the CL 3/4 times is not Sarri’s daily - that’s indicative of a much bigger problem at the club, a lack of a long term vision which has allowed teams that have given their managers time and resources to overtake us. Sack Sarri and we’re back to square one - again.
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So because Man City and Liverpool have succeeded with the long term approach, that's the only way to succeed? Surely we as a club disprove that with our success under Mourinho, Ancelotti, Conte and even Di Matteo? Don't forget as well that City and Liverpool have taken the best 'long term' managers already. We're settling for the B-level Guardiola basically with Sarri.
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That’s the past - football is different now
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We won the league with Conte two years ago.
posted on 10/3/19
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 42 seconds ago
A large majority of our fans want that football
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That’s understandable, we’ve been successful whilst playing pragmatic football. It takes time to move from one style to another, and it’s showing this season.
posted on 10/3/19
Why do we have to move to another style? Atletico Madrid tear it up every season playing 'pragmatic' football. We used to tear it up every season playing pragmatic.
posted on 10/3/19
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jorginho is one of the few midfielders we have who moves the ball quickly
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Agree.
posted on 10/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
The expectations were the exact same. Transition to a different style of play while getting top 4. We didn't expect to win the league that season in the same way we weren't expecting that this season. We fired AVB because we weren't getting top 4 with him. It's looking likely we won't get top 4 with Sarri so we should do the same. If anything, it's actually more important that we do get CL this year than it was back then. If we don't then it's 3/4 years without CL football and 2 in a row. That just isn't OK.
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They really weren’t - we’d finished 2nd the year before AVB came and had a squad capable of winning the CL, which he was wasting.
This time we have a squad with finished 5th last year and doesn’t have the experience or leaders that the 2012 squad did. It’s just not a good comparison.
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And missing out on the CL 3/4 times is not Sarri’s daily - that’s indicative of a much bigger problem at the club, a lack of a long term vision which has allowed teams that have given their managers time and resources to overtake us. Sack Sarri and we’re back to square one - again.
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So because Man City and Liverpool have succeeded with the long term approach, that's the only way to succeed? Surely we as a club disprove that with our success under Mourinho, Ancelotti, Conte and even Di Matteo? Don't forget as well that City and Liverpool have taken the best 'long term' managers already. We're settling for the B-level Guardiola basically with Sarri.
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That’s the past - football is different now
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We won the league with Conte two years ago.
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And then finished 6th, when he had a full schedule to contend with. Add to that, Conte’s title win was before Klopp and Pep got their projects to the point they’re at now. City got 100 points last year, both of the top 2 are on course to get 90+ this year. That’s our new reality.
Also, we’re now unable to blow other teams out of the market in terms of transfer fees/ wages in a way that we used to under most of the managers you have mentioned above. The whole football landscape has changed, we either move with the times or get left behind which is exactly what City and Liverpool have done to us.
posted on 10/3/19
comment by The Power of Now (U20893)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jorginho is one of the few midfielders we have who moves the ball quickly
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Agree.
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Where are those passes going? sideways backwards. Why is he losing possesion so often? He's puts us in danger when he does. I expected better for the price. He is not suited to this league where the pace is high and he doesn't get time on the ball. Guys a joke. No coincidence we started to get shots at goal once he left the field.
posted on 10/3/19
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posted on 10/3/19
How the hell is this guy still allowed on the Chelsea board? He's made it clear how much he hates us.
posted on 10/3/19
That's Erik op not you
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