Bercow should be stopping MV3. Absolute waste of time.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
Bercow should be stopping MV3. Absolute waste of time.
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Yup. He should not even allow it
Genuinely no idea how she can say there will be no second referendum as the people have already spoken, then try 3 times to get her deal through when it's been voted down by some of the biggest margins in history.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
Bercow should be stopping MV3. Absolute waste of time.
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I bet he does, she is intentionally doing this to wind down the clock. Can Barcow block the vote?
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comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 26 seconds ago
Out doesn't mean out.?
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I do not think we should go out by any means necessary.
I also do think the older generation have messed up the younger generation big time. In the marketing suite where I work at, we had this older gentleman around 67 that does some temp work for us-; he mentioned to me that he voted out and knows it would be tough, but so be it. He then went on to say, he inherited his parents house, which he sold. He put away 200k in some overseas bond, which is going to give him some fantastic returns, meanwhile young people left, right and centre are losing their jobs in the property industry partially because of Brexit.
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Out doesn't mean out.?
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What does out mean to you?
I think shes going for the top five worst defeats in commons votes.
Currently holds 1st and 4th.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
Genuinely no idea how she can say there will be no second referendum as the people have already spoken, then try 3 times to get her deal through when it's been voted down by some of the biggest margins in history.
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Just mentioned this on the politics thread.
A 'peoples vote' somehow a betrayal of democracy (despite many of the Brexiters advocating one post EUref) but three parliamentary votes on exactly the same deal is okay.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 26 seconds ago
Out doesn't mean out.?
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I do not think we should go out by any means necessary.
I also do think the older generation have messed up the younger generation big time. In the marketing suite where I work at, we had this older gentleman around 67 that does some temp work for us-; he mentioned to me that he voted out and knows it would be tough, but so be it. He then went on to say, he inherited his parents house, which he sold. He put away 200k in some overseas bond, which is going to give him some fantastic returns, meanwhile young people left, right and centre are losing their jobs in the property industry partially because of Brexit.
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You do not need to look far. Just look at Rees-Mogg.
Brexit is the greatest act of national self harm in a generation.
Boris Johnson is now saying Remaining in the EU is better than May's deal
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
Bercow should be stopping MV3. Absolute waste of time.
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I bet he does, she is intentionally doing this to wind down the clock. Can Barcow block the vote?
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Yes he can, he’s the speaker and also a remainer.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 26 seconds ago
Out doesn't mean out.?
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I do not think we should go out by any means necessary.
I also do think the older generation have messed up the younger generation big time. In the marketing suite where I work at, we had this older gentleman around 67 that does some temp work for us-; he mentioned to me that he voted out and knows it would be tough, but so be it. He then went on to say, he inherited his parents house, which he sold. He put away 200k in some overseas bond, which is going to give him some fantastic returns, meanwhile young people left, right and centre are losing their jobs in the property industry partially because of Brexit.
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I’m trying to get into property myself, had a few meetings with recruiters but it’s not been very successful in them getting me interviews.
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
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What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
Will Bercow have the last word ?....................
aye aye aey aye as my friends of all nationalities say .They are all scratching their heads and laughing in Europe.
End of the day, no Brexiteer should support May's deal. After all we lose our powers and veto and have to still abide by EU regs to trade in the bloc.
What happened to SOVEREIGNTY!!!!!!
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
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What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
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If the majority then vote to leave then that reaffirms the stance that we want to leave. It would be up to those in power to deliver that result.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
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I doubt (given the absolute carnage that has ensued) the public would be as stupid again, given what is now known is achievable, and what is not.
Then again sunlit uplands and all that...
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 26 seconds ago
Out doesn't mean out.?
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I do not think we should go out by any means necessary.
I also do think the older generation have messed up the younger generation big time. In the marketing suite where I work at, we had this older gentleman around 67 that does some temp work for us-; he mentioned to me that he voted out and knows it would be tough, but so be it. He then went on to say, he inherited his parents house, which he sold. He put away 200k in some overseas bond, which is going to give him some fantastic returns, meanwhile young people left, right and centre are losing their jobs in the property industry partially because of Brexit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m trying to get into property myself, had a few meetings with recruiters but it’s not been very successful in them getting me interviews.
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Very tricky time to get in, Martial. I was lucky I started around 2014 and did really well when the additional stamp was imposed on second purchases. The market was hot during the months leading to that, and that enabled a lot of us then (around 23/24) to buy our first properties. The problem now is, prices are not really going down, but transaction is at an all time low, so depending on what you want to do, you may be out of the door within 3 months if you go into sales.
I’ve been applying for trainee sales negotiator positions, had my first ever interview on Tuesday but it didn’t go well because my sales experience isn’t as strong and they said sales need to be made sharpish due to Brexit. I would’ve thought with house prices potentially going down because of a no deal would be a perfect time to get into property.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
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I doubt (given the absolute carnage that has ensued) the public would be as stupid again, given what is now known is achievable, and what is not.
Then again sunlit uplands and all that...
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I do think it would be very close again contrary to what most people think. You can present all the facts to the general public, but it seems you can't convince people immigration is not the sole problem to our problems.
Mogg, Farage, Johnson. All in it for themselves.
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
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If the majority then vote to leave then that reaffirms the stance that we want to leave. It would be up to those in power to deliver that result.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect people will listen to experts now and not morons like Bojo and Gove.
The alternative is a unified Ireland and an independent Scotland
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I doubt (given the absolute carnage that has ensued) the public would be as stupid again, given what is now known is achievable, and what is not.
Then again sunlit uplands and all that...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do think it would be very close again contrary to what most people think. You can present all the facts to the general public, but it seems you can't convince people immigration is not the sole problem to our problems.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will definitely be close, but to change something as massive as our country leaving the EU, the majority has to be large, i.e. 60% and above.
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posted on 14/3/19
Bercow should be stopping MV3. Absolute waste of time.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
Bercow should be stopping MV3. Absolute waste of time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup. He should not even allow it
posted on 14/3/19
Genuinely no idea how she can say there will be no second referendum as the people have already spoken, then try 3 times to get her deal through when it's been voted down by some of the biggest margins in history.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
Bercow should be stopping MV3. Absolute waste of time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I bet he does, she is intentionally doing this to wind down the clock. Can Barcow block the vote?
posted on 14/3/19
Out doesn't mean out.?
posted on 14/3/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 14/3/19
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 26 seconds ago
Out doesn't mean out.?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do not think we should go out by any means necessary.
I also do think the older generation have messed up the younger generation big time. In the marketing suite where I work at, we had this older gentleman around 67 that does some temp work for us-; he mentioned to me that he voted out and knows it would be tough, but so be it. He then went on to say, he inherited his parents house, which he sold. He put away 200k in some overseas bond, which is going to give him some fantastic returns, meanwhile young people left, right and centre are losing their jobs in the property industry partially because of Brexit.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Out doesn't mean out.?
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What does out mean to you?
posted on 14/3/19
I think shes going for the top five worst defeats in commons votes.
Currently holds 1st and 4th.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
Genuinely no idea how she can say there will be no second referendum as the people have already spoken, then try 3 times to get her deal through when it's been voted down by some of the biggest margins in history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just mentioned this on the politics thread.
A 'peoples vote' somehow a betrayal of democracy (despite many of the Brexiters advocating one post EUref) but three parliamentary votes on exactly the same deal is okay.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 26 seconds ago
Out doesn't mean out.?
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I do not think we should go out by any means necessary.
I also do think the older generation have messed up the younger generation big time. In the marketing suite where I work at, we had this older gentleman around 67 that does some temp work for us-; he mentioned to me that he voted out and knows it would be tough, but so be it. He then went on to say, he inherited his parents house, which he sold. He put away 200k in some overseas bond, which is going to give him some fantastic returns, meanwhile young people left, right and centre are losing their jobs in the property industry partially because of Brexit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do not need to look far. Just look at Rees-Mogg.
Brexit is the greatest act of national self harm in a generation.
Boris Johnson is now saying Remaining in the EU is better than May's deal
posted on 14/3/19
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
Bercow should be stopping MV3. Absolute waste of time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I bet he does, she is intentionally doing this to wind down the clock. Can Barcow block the vote?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes he can, he’s the speaker and also a remainer.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 26 seconds ago
Out doesn't mean out.?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do not think we should go out by any means necessary.
I also do think the older generation have messed up the younger generation big time. In the marketing suite where I work at, we had this older gentleman around 67 that does some temp work for us-; he mentioned to me that he voted out and knows it would be tough, but so be it. He then went on to say, he inherited his parents house, which he sold. He put away 200k in some overseas bond, which is going to give him some fantastic returns, meanwhile young people left, right and centre are losing their jobs in the property industry partially because of Brexit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m trying to get into property myself, had a few meetings with recruiters but it’s not been very successful in them getting me interviews.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
posted on 14/3/19
Will Bercow have the last word ?....................
aye aye aey aye as my friends of all nationalities say .They are all scratching their heads and laughing in Europe.
posted on 14/3/19
End of the day, no Brexiteer should support May's deal. After all we lose our powers and veto and have to still abide by EU regs to trade in the bloc.
What happened to SOVEREIGNTY!!!!!!
posted on 14/3/19
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If the majority then vote to leave then that reaffirms the stance that we want to leave. It would be up to those in power to deliver that result.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I doubt (given the absolute carnage that has ensued) the public would be as stupid again, given what is now known is achievable, and what is not.
Then again sunlit uplands and all that...
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 26 seconds ago
Out doesn't mean out.?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do not think we should go out by any means necessary.
I also do think the older generation have messed up the younger generation big time. In the marketing suite where I work at, we had this older gentleman around 67 that does some temp work for us-; he mentioned to me that he voted out and knows it would be tough, but so be it. He then went on to say, he inherited his parents house, which he sold. He put away 200k in some overseas bond, which is going to give him some fantastic returns, meanwhile young people left, right and centre are losing their jobs in the property industry partially because of Brexit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m trying to get into property myself, had a few meetings with recruiters but it’s not been very successful in them getting me interviews.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very tricky time to get in, Martial. I was lucky I started around 2014 and did really well when the additional stamp was imposed on second purchases. The market was hot during the months leading to that, and that enabled a lot of us then (around 23/24) to buy our first properties. The problem now is, prices are not really going down, but transaction is at an all time low, so depending on what you want to do, you may be out of the door within 3 months if you go into sales.
posted on 14/3/19
I’ve been applying for trainee sales negotiator positions, had my first ever interview on Tuesday but it didn’t go well because my sales experience isn’t as strong and they said sales need to be made sharpish due to Brexit. I would’ve thought with house prices potentially going down because of a no deal would be a perfect time to get into property.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I doubt (given the absolute carnage that has ensued) the public would be as stupid again, given what is now known is achievable, and what is not.
Then again sunlit uplands and all that...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do think it would be very close again contrary to what most people think. You can present all the facts to the general public, but it seems you can't convince people immigration is not the sole problem to our problems.
posted on 14/3/19
Mogg, Farage, Johnson. All in it for themselves.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If the majority then vote to leave then that reaffirms the stance that we want to leave. It would be up to those in power to deliver that result.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect people will listen to experts now and not morons like Bojo and Gove.
The alternative is a unified Ireland and an independent Scotland
posted on 14/3/19
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 55 seconds ago
I don't buy the whole betrayal to democracy argument. Democracy is founded on voting. How is having a vote a betrayal of it?
The reason we have general elections at sporadic intervals is because public opinion can change. Just because a majority votes for something once doesn't mean it should always be the case. A second referendum would clarify what the current opinion is within the country. That is all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if the majority decides to vote out again? Would it be fair to say then we should go out with no deal no questions asked.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I doubt (given the absolute carnage that has ensued) the public would be as stupid again, given what is now known is achievable, and what is not.
Then again sunlit uplands and all that...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do think it would be very close again contrary to what most people think. You can present all the facts to the general public, but it seems you can't convince people immigration is not the sole problem to our problems.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will definitely be close, but to change something as massive as our country leaving the EU, the majority has to be large, i.e. 60% and above.
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