Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
Why'd he leave? Was he poor?
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posted 1 minute ago
Why'd he leave? Was he poor?
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Yeah. One win, three defeats and three draws. Not great is it?
Owner interference allegedly
Looks like he had issues with the board.
"It unfortunately became clear that I would not be able to operate as I intended and was led to believe prior to taking on the role"
Very Mourinho like comment.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
Why'd he leave? Was he poor?
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Yeah. One win, three defeats and three draws. Not great is it?
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Not at all, didn't he win the first one too? So six games after without a win is poor.
Still, very early to give up on a job.
He's not exactly articulate on TV, think he's the perfect example of someone who has it all going on in his own head so easily that he can't even know where to begin to explain it to someone that doesn't know what to do.
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comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
At least he has tried his hand at management in a proper league, unlike Gerrard.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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Better Good one.
Scholes could have been backed by an Arab nation and still wouldn’t have got out of that league. The guy is clueless as a pundit. Just like Henry you could tell he would flop from the start.
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posted 2 minutes ago
At least he has tried his hand at management in a proper league, unlike Gerrard.
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Updated mate.
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/403539
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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BetterGood one.
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Of course they were better, hence them getting all the votes by their peers for European player of the year Balon D'or etc and Scholes not, hence them getting picked ahead of him. He didn't have the elevation back then, you see.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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BetterGood one.
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Of course they were better, hence them getting all the votes by their peers for European player of the year Balon D'or etc and Scholes not, hence them getting picked ahead of him. He didn't have the elevation back then, you see.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jVRGsFxe0
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posted 39 seconds ago
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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BetterGood one.
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Of course they were better, hence them getting all the votes by their peers for European player of the year Balon D'or etc and Scholes not, hence them getting picked ahead of him. He didn't have the elevation back then, you see.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jVRGsFxe0
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Elevation post retirement. Fortunately his peers actually voted the best when he played, not after he retired and he didn't get many votes, hence never placing anywhere for the awards.
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posted 39 seconds ago
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posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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BetterGood one.
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Of course they were better, hence them getting all the votes by their peers for European player of the year Balon D'or etc and Scholes not, hence them getting picked ahead of him. He didn't have the elevation back then, you see.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jVRGsFxe0
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Elevation post retirement. Fortunately his peers actually voted the best when he played, not after he retired and he didn't get many votes, hence never placing anywhere for the awards.
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You believe that if you want to. There's a picture of Paul Scholes up at Barcelona's La Masia training base. No Slippy Steve though. They only have real champions there.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 46 seconds ago
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posted 39 seconds ago
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posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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BetterGood one.
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Of course they were better, hence them getting all the votes by their peers for European player of the year Balon D'or etc and Scholes not, hence them getting picked ahead of him. He didn't have the elevation back then, you see.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jVRGsFxe0
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Elevation post retirement. Fortunately his peers actually voted the best when he played, not after he retired and he didn't get many votes, hence never placing anywhere for the awards.
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You believe that if you want to. There's a picture of Paul Scholes up at Barcelona's La Masia training base. No Slippy Steve though. They only have real champions there.
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Thread over
The BBC, The Guardian and The Mail are saying Scholesy took the job believing that he'd be left to run the football side of things and the Oldham chairman, Abdallah Lemsagam, wouldn't interfere.
Judging from his comments, "In the short period since I took on the role it, unfortunately, became clear that I would not be able to operate as I intended and was led to believe prior to taking on the role."
Really don't see the point in lying to a coach before you appoint him (if that's what happened), what's the best case scenario there? He trudges on with the job getting more and more annoyed, then leaves or gets fired at the end of the season after not being able to produce his best work?
I don't need to believe anything. The facts are there. There were 14 different winners of United's player of the year when he played, he never won once.
Both Gerrard and Lampard received 8 world xi nominations. Scholes 2. He never got near European or World player of the year, both Gerrard and Lampard did. He made team of the season in the league only twice. Gerrard 8, Lampard 5.
This is what his peers actually thought of him when he played, not after the propaganda and sourceless quotes that were flying around after he retired.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 33 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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Taken up trolling now, TOOR?
Better than your usual contributions I suppose...
Scholes won many titles playing as part of a two man central midfield.
Gerrard was moved out of central midfield.
Lampard played as part of a three.
Scholes was the better central midfielder - clearly.
Re: Oldham, in my opinion...
Manager leaves in the first month - club's fault
Manager leaves 12 months into the job - manager's fault
That's certainly how it looks which, let's face it, is important if Scholes wants a future managerial career.
Our 99 side are t making great managers.
Scholes lasted 1 month
G Neville was awful
Giggs has not done very well.
Keane on the poor side
P Neville women’s team. Doing well though.
And ole. Who’s doing brilliantly
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 26 minutes ago
I don't need to believe anything. The facts are there. There were 14 different winners of United's player of the year when he played, he never won once.
Both Gerrard and Lampard received 8 world xi nominations. Scholes 2. He never got near European or World player of the year, both Gerrard and Lampard did. He made team of the season in the league only twice. Gerrard 8, Lampard 5.
This is what his peers actually thought of him when he played, not after the propaganda and sourceless quotes that were flying around after he retired.
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He was better than Beckham who got far more awards rendering all that stuff nonsense. Scholes was quiet and didn't give interviews. He was like the forgotten man.
You just watched the clip of Henry saying Scholes number 1 and then just Gerrard in 2nd close behind. That's Thierry Henry saying that. Not me.
There's one of Zidane saying it too. Also Guariola saying he'd choose Scholes over every Utd player in fergie era for.his Barca team prior to the final.
So what you said about peers is nonsense unless you think Zidane, Pep n Henry know nothing.
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posted on 14/3/19
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
posted on 14/3/19
Why'd he leave? Was he poor?
posted on 14/3/19
Give it Giggsy
posted on 14/3/19
comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
Why'd he leave? Was he poor?
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Yeah. One win, three defeats and three draws. Not great is it?
posted on 14/3/19
Owner interference allegedly
posted on 14/3/19
Looks like he had issues with the board.
"It unfortunately became clear that I would not be able to operate as I intended and was led to believe prior to taking on the role"
Very Mourinho like comment.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
posted on 14/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
Why'd he leave? Was he poor?
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Yeah. One win, three defeats and three draws. Not great is it?
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Not at all, didn't he win the first one too? So six games after without a win is poor.
Still, very early to give up on a job.
He's not exactly articulate on TV, think he's the perfect example of someone who has it all going on in his own head so easily that he can't even know where to begin to explain it to someone that doesn't know what to do.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
posted on 14/3/19
At least he has tried his hand at management in a proper league, unlike Gerrard.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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Better Good one.
posted on 14/3/19
Scholes could have been backed by an Arab nation and still wouldn’t have got out of that league. The guy is clueless as a pundit. Just like Henry you could tell he would flop from the start.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Andrew Nelson (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
At least he has tried his hand at management in a proper league, unlike Gerrard.
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Updated mate.
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/403539
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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BetterGood one.
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Of course they were better, hence them getting all the votes by their peers for European player of the year Balon D'or etc and Scholes not, hence them getting picked ahead of him. He didn't have the elevation back then, you see.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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BetterGood one.
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Of course they were better, hence them getting all the votes by their peers for European player of the year Balon D'or etc and Scholes not, hence them getting picked ahead of him. He didn't have the elevation back then, you see.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jVRGsFxe0
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 39 seconds ago
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posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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BetterGood one.
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Of course they were better, hence them getting all the votes by their peers for European player of the year Balon D'or etc and Scholes not, hence them getting picked ahead of him. He didn't have the elevation back then, you see.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jVRGsFxe0
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Elevation post retirement. Fortunately his peers actually voted the best when he played, not after he retired and he didn't get many votes, hence never placing anywhere for the awards.
posted on 14/3/19
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posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 39 seconds ago
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posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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BetterGood one.
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Of course they were better, hence them getting all the votes by their peers for European player of the year Balon D'or etc and Scholes not, hence them getting picked ahead of him. He didn't have the elevation back then, you see.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jVRGsFxe0
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Elevation post retirement. Fortunately his peers actually voted the best when he played, not after he retired and he didn't get many votes, hence never placing anywhere for the awards.
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You believe that if you want to. There's a picture of Paul Scholes up at Barcelona's La Masia training base. No Slippy Steve though. They only have real champions there.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 39 seconds ago
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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When the manager chose two inferior players to play in his position who couldnt work together you mean??? Don't blame him. He was too good for In-gur-land
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He didn't, he chose two better players. Scholes felt he couldn't compete and left. As I said, when the going got tough, he left.
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BetterGood one.
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Of course they were better, hence them getting all the votes by their peers for European player of the year Balon D'or etc and Scholes not, hence them getting picked ahead of him. He didn't have the elevation back then, you see.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jVRGsFxe0
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Elevation post retirement. Fortunately his peers actually voted the best when he played, not after he retired and he didn't get many votes, hence never placing anywhere for the awards.
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You believe that if you want to. There's a picture of Paul Scholes up at Barcelona's La Masia training base. No Slippy Steve though. They only have real champions there.
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Thread over
posted on 14/3/19
The BBC, The Guardian and The Mail are saying Scholesy took the job believing that he'd be left to run the football side of things and the Oldham chairman, Abdallah Lemsagam, wouldn't interfere.
Judging from his comments, "In the short period since I took on the role it, unfortunately, became clear that I would not be able to operate as I intended and was led to believe prior to taking on the role."
Really don't see the point in lying to a coach before you appoint him (if that's what happened), what's the best case scenario there? He trudges on with the job getting more and more annoyed, then leaves or gets fired at the end of the season after not being able to produce his best work?
posted on 14/3/19
I don't need to believe anything. The facts are there. There were 14 different winners of United's player of the year when he played, he never won once.
Both Gerrard and Lampard received 8 world xi nominations. Scholes 2. He never got near European or World player of the year, both Gerrard and Lampard did. He made team of the season in the league only twice. Gerrard 8, Lampard 5.
This is what his peers actually thought of him when he played, not after the propaganda and sourceless quotes that were flying around after he retired.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 33 minutes ago
Not surprising. He left England when the going got tough also.
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Taken up trolling now, TOOR?
Better than your usual contributions I suppose...
posted on 14/3/19
Scholes won many titles playing as part of a two man central midfield.
Gerrard was moved out of central midfield.
Lampard played as part of a three.
Scholes was the better central midfielder - clearly.
posted on 14/3/19
Re: Oldham, in my opinion...
Manager leaves in the first month - club's fault
Manager leaves 12 months into the job - manager's fault
That's certainly how it looks which, let's face it, is important if Scholes wants a future managerial career.
posted on 14/3/19
Our 99 side are t making great managers.
Scholes lasted 1 month
G Neville was awful
Giggs has not done very well.
Keane on the poor side
P Neville women’s team. Doing well though.
And ole. Who’s doing brilliantly
posted on 14/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 26 minutes ago
I don't need to believe anything. The facts are there. There were 14 different winners of United's player of the year when he played, he never won once.
Both Gerrard and Lampard received 8 world xi nominations. Scholes 2. He never got near European or World player of the year, both Gerrard and Lampard did. He made team of the season in the league only twice. Gerrard 8, Lampard 5.
This is what his peers actually thought of him when he played, not after the propaganda and sourceless quotes that were flying around after he retired.
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He was better than Beckham who got far more awards rendering all that stuff nonsense. Scholes was quiet and didn't give interviews. He was like the forgotten man.
You just watched the clip of Henry saying Scholes number 1 and then just Gerrard in 2nd close behind. That's Thierry Henry saying that. Not me.
There's one of Zidane saying it too. Also Guariola saying he'd choose Scholes over every Utd player in fergie era for.his Barca team prior to the final.
So what you said about peers is nonsense unless you think Zidane, Pep n Henry know nothing.
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