comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
Suarez was better than Hazard and played in an attacking team that did have other threats. What gave Bale the edge was his incredible long range shooting.
I think you really underestimate how much work Hazard has to do in attack for Chelsea, your attacking options beyond him aren’t good enough, and I think they shirk responsibility because they play with Hazard. Because he’s not a ruthless goal scorer there’s only so much he can do. He’s an all rounder, who excels more at setting up team mates than scoring, but when you have teammates that can’t finish and, or, don’t have great movement him and the team suffer.
I don’t know whether he’ll have regretted or not but I don’t think moving to Chelsea has allowed him to fulfill his potential. You can make the argument that he doesn’t have the drive to be the very best, and I think you see it in some games, especially in an era of goal scoring wide man ruling the roost - but despite winning quite a few trophies I don’t think he’s played in any great teams with many great teammates, and has also suffered from a lack of coaching in many aspects of his game due to the management situations at Chelsea.
Look at Sterling for example, he’s benefited massively from working with attacking coaches and some truly great players, Hazard hasn’t had that luxury and is worse for it, in my opinion.
If Hazard had worked with Pep once leaving France I think we’d be looking at a Balon D’or contender rather than just a poty one.
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Great comment Darren, completely agree.
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 11 hours, 3 minutes ago
He thrived as an outside CB in a back three but he's been shakey now that's he's been moved back out to right back
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I'm still of the opinion that we should be using the back three now
This has been Azpis downfall
Wahl is right to a point with Hazard, it's time we sold him now he's not currently as good as the other two named by any stretch...he's been in a different league previously but not this term
Well done getting 200 comments on this btw...astounding
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 6 hours, 58 minutes ago
If the OP is a Chelsea fan, he's clearly one of those annoying mugs who say contrarian sheite for attention.
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I take it you’ve not encountered Wahl before then?
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Hazard is inconsistent and overhyped.
Hes a forward player not a midfielder so his stats are awful.
Like pogba capable of brilliance but not on a regular basis.
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If he was so good hed be mopping up POTY every season. Hes never near it
He’s not ahead by a distance. Don’t be ridiculous. D actually watch hazard. He has has his good games but he’s badly inconsistent compared to someone like sterling who’s played well week in week out this season and deserves more respect than he clearly gets.
People don’t actually seem to watch hazard so they only know his good games and not his bad games. As a Chelsea fan I can say that hazard hasn’t turned up for us in months now but clearly fans of other clubs who don’t watch him think he has for some reason. Sterling has been the better player this season.
Hes never near it
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He’s won it.
Wahl, Hazard’s contributed to 24 prem goals this season, the same as Sterling, Aguero and Salah. Discuss.
I don’t care how many goals he’s contributed to, my issue with him has and always will be the number of goals he’s scored.
The way people talk about him you’d expect 30 goals at least a season. Don’t even get 20.
So wait end product isn't important now? Make your mind up
"I actually watch Hazard"
Yeh and I'm in North Korea right now
Lol wahls lost another poll I see.
Hazard best player in the pl. never known a person to want to put down someone in their supposed own team so much
If hazard played for city or Liverpool he’d probably win poty every year. Guy carries us offensively every year.
I want Hazard to score 30 goals a season at least. That's what a player who's as good as some claim he is would be doing.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
If hazard played for city or Liverpool he’d probably win poty every year. Guy carries us offensively every year.
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Suarez carried Liverpool and scored 40 goals in a season for them. Bale carried Tottenham and singlehandedly destroyed teams.
Are you admitting Hazard isn't on thier level?
Because that's what I'm saying.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
Lol wahls lost another poll I see.
Hazard best player in the pl. never known a person to want to put down someone in their supposed own team so much
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Funny thing is he doesn't even watch us/him
I think Hazard should score at least 30 goals a season. What is so wrong about thinking that?
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
If hazard played for city or Liverpool he’d probably win poty every year. Guy carries us offensively every year.
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Suarez carried Liverpool and scored 40 goals in a season for them. Bale carried Tottenham and singlehandedly destroyed teams.
Are you admitting Hazard isn't on thier level?
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no, he's saying chelsea aren't on the level of liverpool or city.
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
If hazard played for city or Liverpool he’d probably win poty every year. Guy carries us offensively every year.
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Suarez carried Liverpool and scored 40 goals in a season for them. Bale carried Tottenham and singlehandedly destroyed teams.
Are you admitting Hazard isn't on thier level?
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It’s a tough one. Suarez is a striker and had sterling and Gerrard supporting him. And probably been one of the best players of the last 10 years. Bale has gone on to win champions leagues and also probably one of the best of the last 10 years. Probably put hazard on par. As a midfielder his output is quite phenomenal.
Sky sports pulled up some stats during the Everton game and every criteria hazard was 1st in our teams
Goals, assists, chances created, key passes, dribbled and others. The guys a phenomenon. Like a nedved or Figo but with more goals and assists.
I think hazard is the closest thing we have to a wonder version of zidane. Probably got a shout to being the best pl player of the decade.
Thing is in the op you’ve compared hazard mane and sterling and previously salah. Hazards completely different to the others who play on the last man whether as hazard drops deep to get the ball from our lacklustre midfield. Hazard much more complete player.
I think the league cup final where he played upfront is the best performance from a player this season that I’ve seen
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posted on 23/3/19
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
Suarez was better than Hazard and played in an attacking team that did have other threats. What gave Bale the edge was his incredible long range shooting.
I think you really underestimate how much work Hazard has to do in attack for Chelsea, your attacking options beyond him aren’t good enough, and I think they shirk responsibility because they play with Hazard. Because he’s not a ruthless goal scorer there’s only so much he can do. He’s an all rounder, who excels more at setting up team mates than scoring, but when you have teammates that can’t finish and, or, don’t have great movement him and the team suffer.
I don’t know whether he’ll have regretted or not but I don’t think moving to Chelsea has allowed him to fulfill his potential. You can make the argument that he doesn’t have the drive to be the very best, and I think you see it in some games, especially in an era of goal scoring wide man ruling the roost - but despite winning quite a few trophies I don’t think he’s played in any great teams with many great teammates, and has also suffered from a lack of coaching in many aspects of his game due to the management situations at Chelsea.
Look at Sterling for example, he’s benefited massively from working with attacking coaches and some truly great players, Hazard hasn’t had that luxury and is worse for it, in my opinion.
If Hazard had worked with Pep once leaving France I think we’d be looking at a Balon D’or contender rather than just a poty one.
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Great comment Darren, completely agree.
posted on 23/3/19
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 11 hours, 3 minutes ago
He thrived as an outside CB in a back three but he's been shakey now that's he's been moved back out to right back
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I'm still of the opinion that we should be using the back three now
This has been Azpis downfall
Wahl is right to a point with Hazard, it's time we sold him now he's not currently as good as the other two named by any stretch...he's been in a different league previously but not this term
posted on 23/3/19
Well done getting 200 comments on this btw...astounding
posted on 23/3/19
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 6 hours, 58 minutes ago
If the OP is a Chelsea fan, he's clearly one of those annoying mugs who say contrarian sheite for attention.
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I take it you’ve not encountered Wahl before then?
posted on 23/3/19
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posted on 23/3/19
Hazard is inconsistent and overhyped.
Hes a forward player not a midfielder so his stats are awful.
Like pogba capable of brilliance but not on a regular basis.
posted on 23/3/19
This guy.
posted on 23/3/19
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posted on 23/3/19
If he was so good hed be mopping up POTY every season. Hes never near it
posted on 23/3/19
He’s not ahead by a distance. Don’t be ridiculous. D actually watch hazard. He has has his good games but he’s badly inconsistent compared to someone like sterling who’s played well week in week out this season and deserves more respect than he clearly gets.
People don’t actually seem to watch hazard so they only know his good games and not his bad games. As a Chelsea fan I can say that hazard hasn’t turned up for us in months now but clearly fans of other clubs who don’t watch him think he has for some reason. Sterling has been the better player this season.
posted on 23/3/19
Hes never near it
———
He’s won it.
posted on 23/3/19
Wahl, Hazard’s contributed to 24 prem goals this season, the same as Sterling, Aguero and Salah. Discuss.
posted on 23/3/19
I don’t care how many goals he’s contributed to, my issue with him has and always will be the number of goals he’s scored.
The way people talk about him you’d expect 30 goals at least a season. Don’t even get 20.
posted on 23/3/19
So wait end product isn't important now? Make your mind up
posted on 23/3/19
"I actually watch Hazard"
Yeh and I'm in North Korea right now
posted on 23/3/19
Lol wahls lost another poll I see.
Hazard best player in the pl. never known a person to want to put down someone in their supposed own team so much
posted on 23/3/19
If hazard played for city or Liverpool he’d probably win poty every year. Guy carries us offensively every year.
posted on 23/3/19
I want Hazard to score 30 goals a season at least. That's what a player who's as good as some claim he is would be doing.
posted on 23/3/19
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
If hazard played for city or Liverpool he’d probably win poty every year. Guy carries us offensively every year.
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Suarez carried Liverpool and scored 40 goals in a season for them. Bale carried Tottenham and singlehandedly destroyed teams.
Are you admitting Hazard isn't on thier level?
posted on 23/3/19
Because that's what I'm saying.
posted on 23/3/19
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
Lol wahls lost another poll I see.
Hazard best player in the pl. never known a person to want to put down someone in their supposed own team so much
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Funny thing is he doesn't even watch us/him
posted on 23/3/19
I think Hazard should score at least 30 goals a season. What is so wrong about thinking that?
posted on 23/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
If hazard played for city or Liverpool he’d probably win poty every year. Guy carries us offensively every year.
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Suarez carried Liverpool and scored 40 goals in a season for them. Bale carried Tottenham and singlehandedly destroyed teams.
Are you admitting Hazard isn't on thier level?
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no, he's saying chelsea aren't on the level of liverpool or city.
posted on 23/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
If hazard played for city or Liverpool he’d probably win poty every year. Guy carries us offensively every year.
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Suarez carried Liverpool and scored 40 goals in a season for them. Bale carried Tottenham and singlehandedly destroyed teams.
Are you admitting Hazard isn't on thier level?
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It’s a tough one. Suarez is a striker and had sterling and Gerrard supporting him. And probably been one of the best players of the last 10 years. Bale has gone on to win champions leagues and also probably one of the best of the last 10 years. Probably put hazard on par. As a midfielder his output is quite phenomenal.
Sky sports pulled up some stats during the Everton game and every criteria hazard was 1st in our teams
Goals, assists, chances created, key passes, dribbled and others. The guys a phenomenon. Like a nedved or Figo but with more goals and assists.
I think hazard is the closest thing we have to a wonder version of zidane. Probably got a shout to being the best pl player of the decade.
posted on 23/3/19
Thing is in the op you’ve compared hazard mane and sterling and previously salah. Hazards completely different to the others who play on the last man whether as hazard drops deep to get the ball from our lacklustre midfield. Hazard much more complete player.
I think the league cup final where he played upfront is the best performance from a player this season that I’ve seen
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