Definitely like the name Old Trafford to be kept too
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Would be a Wasted opportunity to call it New Trafford
Are all these facilities necessary though?
I think real fans go to the football for a few beers and the football not for a 5 course gourmet meal.
Not like our attendance is struggling.
I’d rather spend the money on players.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 4 minutes ago
Definitely like the name Old Trafford to be kept too
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Would be a Wasted opportunity to call it New Trafford
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I thought they named the stadium after the Old Trafford Shopping Centre though?
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That was my understanding.
I’d rather spend the money on players.
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I totally get that but that's like to saying I'd rather spend my money on wallpaper and furnishings when the room/house clearly isn't up to scratch anymore.
It's in pretty bad shape in places. South stand in particular is a right dump.
It's not going to last forever. It's a very old ground that has had cosmetic surgery. I don't think we're that far off seeing a new one personally.
Are all these facilities necessary though?
I think real fans go to the football for a few beers and the football not for a 5 course gourmet meal.
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this, I can never understand the need for these restaurants/amazing bars etc in stadiums, utd have enough hospitality boxes for that kind of stuff, also the likes of spurs needed a new ground due to the restraints of their previous one, anything we make new would just be for the aesthetics and not for capacity purposes.
From my own personal point of view, a new stadium wouldn't benefit me or add anything to my current match day experience. Sure if there was a bit more space in the toilets and better food/drink stands etc it would be nice but it really doesn't matter to me.
The current set up with the disabled fans being under the away section is causing issues too. Some of them were pelted with seats and other objects versus PSG incredibly. And there isn't an obvious place to move them too either.
Personally I'd like the away fans up high like they do at Camp Nou. Get them further away from the pitch. Every little bit can help.
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 1 minute ago
Are all these facilities necessary though?
I think real fans go to the football for a few beers and the football not for a 5 course gourmet meal.
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this, I can never understand the need for these restaurants/amazing bars etc in stadiums, utd have enough hospitality boxes for that kind of stuff, also the likes of spurs needed a new ground due to the restraints of their previous one, anything we make new would just be for the aesthetics and not for capacity purposes.
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It makes the whole experience a lot better imo. Why does everything have to be bare bone and grim? Spurs fans seems to love the stadium and everything in it. And I dont think the cost of a nice bar will be significant in relation to the total stadium cost. Considering Spurs stadium cost 1 billion, if you need a stadium with 30k more seats, I would expect the stadium to cost well over 1 billion.
I think both Spurs & Athleti have taken new stadium design to a new level following a decade of very dull new builds...... Arsenal, southampton , derby, sunderland, Leicester all spring to mind. With Barca & RM both scheduled to undertake massive redevelopments of the Nou Camp & Bernabeau Id be surprised if United didn't do something with OT. Saw Spurs play at United last year and was surprised how tatty the stadium was..... Looks tired
Spurs stadium looks incredible, as does Atleticos
As Diamond says, the last generation of new build ones are horrible imo and I'd hate to see OT go that way. Arsenals, City etc are so dull and soulless.
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 7 seconds ago
I think both Spurs & Athleti have taken new stadium design to a new level following a decade of very dull new builds...... Arsenal, southampton , derby, sunderland, Leicester all spring to mind. With Barca & RM both scheduled to undertake massive redevelopments of the Nou Camp & Bernabeau Id be surprised if United didn't do something with OT. Saw Spurs play at United last year and was surprised how tatty the stadium was..... Looks tired
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Exactly my point. I think Barca have comitted to 1 billion euro long term project. It's going to look like a totally fresh stadium. Madrid also like you say going to bring the Bernabeu into the 21st century.
We have an issue at United though. We have the train line right behind South stand. That's why that stand is tiny in comparison to the rest. It's a real tired looking stand too.
Can imagine with the Glazers in charge they would
make the money available for a state of the art billion pound stadium which would be the envy of the world but in return for it we would see it called ‘the Szechuan spicy washing up liquid stadium’ and there would be touchscreen merch ordering iPads at your seat.
United are the masters at generating revenue from non football/ marketing activities while also having a huge foreign fan base. I would imagine a bigger version of what Spurs have done would would print money for them
In Valencia the stadium situation is a joke. The old Mestalla is charming but as old and rank as it can get. Amazing location (think a massive stadium by Regent’s Park station in location to central London) but there’s a new stadium far north of the city sitting half built with funding all gone. If no money is found in the next two years the half built stadium will have to be knocked down and the side will stay at the Mestalla. Bit of a joke but that’s Spanish construction in a nutshell 😂
Spurs’ stadium does look incredible though.
comment by Robb Ferguson (U21234)
posted 23 seconds ago
Can imagine with the Glazers in charge they would
make the money available for a state of the art billion pound stadium which would be the envy of the world but in return for it we would see it called ‘the Szechuan spicy washing up liquid stadium’ and there would be touchscreen merch ordering iPads at your seat.
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There's no way they would do that but I appreciate the humour.
The worst I could see happening would be the '........' arena at Old Trafford. There's no way they'd get away with dropping the Old Trafford name.
Like I said this is all complete speculation but I wouldn't rule it out totally. Clubs are catching us up in terms of stadia and facilities now. It's up to us to try and keep ahead of the same.
I'd personally love a new state of the art ground as long as we kept the name.
Anyone know how far row 1 is from the pitch at Atleti's stadium? Just googled it, looks incredible.
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
United are the masters at generating revenue from non football/ marketing activities while also having a huge foreign fan base. I would imagine a bigger version of what Spurs have done would would print money for them
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Very true.
I'd imagine if we got 85,000 seats that's again a huge advantage over our competition as I'd be confident we'd be filling that most games. League and CL games would certainly be full or very close to full every game. Cup games may not be but that extra revenue would again take us on again.
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
Anyone know how far row 1 is from the pitch at Atleti's stadium? Just googled it, looks incredible.
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I'll let you know when Ole takes us there in a few months
I like those cages they put you in to go upstairs treating Man Utd fans like apes and rightly so, and how did they get that statute up there?
Commercially I don't think it's that viable for you guys. I think your match day revenue is pretty healthy at the moment? Do you know how much it contributes to revenue?
I think we used to make something like £25-30m a year from the stadium. That figure will probably increase to £100m+ going forward with the extra seats, corporates and higher prices as well as NFL and music etc
The ability for Spurs to host NFL games/ Concerts etc without damaging the pitch while building the relationship with the NFL (would imagine the success in London could be replicated up North) would be very appealing to the Glazers ?????
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. Mopo's #1 fan. (U7905)
posted 17 seconds ago
Commercially I don't think it's that viable for you guys. I think your match day revenue is pretty healthy at the moment? Do you know how much it contributes to revenue?
I think we used to make something like £25-30m a year from the stadium. That figure will probably increase to £100m+ going forward with the extra seats, corporates and higher prices as well as NFL and music etc
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Our match day revenue is incredibly healthy but since when has that stopped businesses trying to make even more money?
Also there's scope for Old Trafford to host more types of events such as Gigs. The Bitter Bowl gets the vast majority of them currently and the cricket ground gets a few a year in the summer too.
There's always scope to improve.
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 4 minutes ago
The ability for Spurs to host NFL games/ Concerts etc without damaging the pitch while building the relationship with the NFL (would imagine the success in London could be replicated up North) would be very appealing to the Glazers ?????
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The club will make an absolute killing on match days now, with the stadium being open for hours after every game with live music, DJ's etc. As well as the endless amount of food options.
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 4 minutes ago
The ability for Spurs to host NFL games/ Concerts etc without damaging the pitch while building the relationship with the NFL (would imagine the success in London could be replicated up North) would be very appealing to the Glazers ?????
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The club will make an absolute killing on match days now, with the stadium being open for hours after every game with live music, DJ's etc. As well as the endless amount of food options.
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Yeah..... I guess none of us know what short term implication will be on our finances/ funds for the team but gotta give Levy credit..... He has clearly done everything possible to make it the best fan experience imaginable !!! I'm over for the last home game..... cant wait !!!
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posted on 25/3/19
Definitely like the name Old Trafford to be kept too
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Would be a Wasted opportunity to call it New Trafford
posted on 25/3/19
Are all these facilities necessary though?
I think real fans go to the football for a few beers and the football not for a 5 course gourmet meal.
Not like our attendance is struggling.
I’d rather spend the money on players.
posted on 25/3/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 25/3/19
comment by Girth Wrangler (U3245)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 4 minutes ago
Definitely like the name Old Trafford to be kept too
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Would be a Wasted opportunity to call it New Trafford
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I thought they named the stadium after the Old Trafford Shopping Centre though?
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That was my understanding.
posted on 25/3/19
I’d rather spend the money on players.
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I totally get that but that's like to saying I'd rather spend my money on wallpaper and furnishings when the room/house clearly isn't up to scratch anymore.
It's in pretty bad shape in places. South stand in particular is a right dump.
It's not going to last forever. It's a very old ground that has had cosmetic surgery. I don't think we're that far off seeing a new one personally.
posted on 25/3/19
Are all these facilities necessary though?
I think real fans go to the football for a few beers and the football not for a 5 course gourmet meal.
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this, I can never understand the need for these restaurants/amazing bars etc in stadiums, utd have enough hospitality boxes for that kind of stuff, also the likes of spurs needed a new ground due to the restraints of their previous one, anything we make new would just be for the aesthetics and not for capacity purposes.
posted on 25/3/19
From my own personal point of view, a new stadium wouldn't benefit me or add anything to my current match day experience. Sure if there was a bit more space in the toilets and better food/drink stands etc it would be nice but it really doesn't matter to me.
posted on 25/3/19
The current set up with the disabled fans being under the away section is causing issues too. Some of them were pelted with seats and other objects versus PSG incredibly. And there isn't an obvious place to move them too either.
Personally I'd like the away fans up high like they do at Camp Nou. Get them further away from the pitch. Every little bit can help.
posted on 25/3/19
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 1 minute ago
Are all these facilities necessary though?
I think real fans go to the football for a few beers and the football not for a 5 course gourmet meal.
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this, I can never understand the need for these restaurants/amazing bars etc in stadiums, utd have enough hospitality boxes for that kind of stuff, also the likes of spurs needed a new ground due to the restraints of their previous one, anything we make new would just be for the aesthetics and not for capacity purposes.
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It makes the whole experience a lot better imo. Why does everything have to be bare bone and grim? Spurs fans seems to love the stadium and everything in it. And I dont think the cost of a nice bar will be significant in relation to the total stadium cost. Considering Spurs stadium cost 1 billion, if you need a stadium with 30k more seats, I would expect the stadium to cost well over 1 billion.
posted on 25/3/19
I think both Spurs & Athleti have taken new stadium design to a new level following a decade of very dull new builds...... Arsenal, southampton , derby, sunderland, Leicester all spring to mind. With Barca & RM both scheduled to undertake massive redevelopments of the Nou Camp & Bernabeau Id be surprised if United didn't do something with OT. Saw Spurs play at United last year and was surprised how tatty the stadium was..... Looks tired
posted on 25/3/19
Spurs stadium looks incredible, as does Atleticos
As Diamond says, the last generation of new build ones are horrible imo and I'd hate to see OT go that way. Arsenals, City etc are so dull and soulless.
posted on 25/3/19
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 7 seconds ago
I think both Spurs & Athleti have taken new stadium design to a new level following a decade of very dull new builds...... Arsenal, southampton , derby, sunderland, Leicester all spring to mind. With Barca & RM both scheduled to undertake massive redevelopments of the Nou Camp & Bernabeau Id be surprised if United didn't do something with OT. Saw Spurs play at United last year and was surprised how tatty the stadium was..... Looks tired
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Exactly my point. I think Barca have comitted to 1 billion euro long term project. It's going to look like a totally fresh stadium. Madrid also like you say going to bring the Bernabeu into the 21st century.
We have an issue at United though. We have the train line right behind South stand. That's why that stand is tiny in comparison to the rest. It's a real tired looking stand too.
posted on 25/3/19
Can imagine with the Glazers in charge they would
make the money available for a state of the art billion pound stadium which would be the envy of the world but in return for it we would see it called ‘the Szechuan spicy washing up liquid stadium’ and there would be touchscreen merch ordering iPads at your seat.
posted on 25/3/19
United are the masters at generating revenue from non football/ marketing activities while also having a huge foreign fan base. I would imagine a bigger version of what Spurs have done would would print money for them
posted on 25/3/19
In Valencia the stadium situation is a joke. The old Mestalla is charming but as old and rank as it can get. Amazing location (think a massive stadium by Regent’s Park station in location to central London) but there’s a new stadium far north of the city sitting half built with funding all gone. If no money is found in the next two years the half built stadium will have to be knocked down and the side will stay at the Mestalla. Bit of a joke but that’s Spanish construction in a nutshell 😂
Spurs’ stadium does look incredible though.
posted on 25/3/19
comment by Robb Ferguson (U21234)
posted 23 seconds ago
Can imagine with the Glazers in charge they would
make the money available for a state of the art billion pound stadium which would be the envy of the world but in return for it we would see it called ‘the Szechuan spicy washing up liquid stadium’ and there would be touchscreen merch ordering iPads at your seat.
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There's no way they would do that but I appreciate the humour.
The worst I could see happening would be the '........' arena at Old Trafford. There's no way they'd get away with dropping the Old Trafford name.
Like I said this is all complete speculation but I wouldn't rule it out totally. Clubs are catching us up in terms of stadia and facilities now. It's up to us to try and keep ahead of the same.
I'd personally love a new state of the art ground as long as we kept the name.
posted on 25/3/19
Anyone know how far row 1 is from the pitch at Atleti's stadium? Just googled it, looks incredible.
posted on 25/3/19
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
United are the masters at generating revenue from non football/ marketing activities while also having a huge foreign fan base. I would imagine a bigger version of what Spurs have done would would print money for them
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Very true.
I'd imagine if we got 85,000 seats that's again a huge advantage over our competition as I'd be confident we'd be filling that most games. League and CL games would certainly be full or very close to full every game. Cup games may not be but that extra revenue would again take us on again.
posted on 25/3/19
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
Anyone know how far row 1 is from the pitch at Atleti's stadium? Just googled it, looks incredible.
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I'll let you know when Ole takes us there in a few months
posted on 25/3/19
I like those cages they put you in to go upstairs treating Man Utd fans like apes and rightly so, and how did they get that statute up there?
posted on 25/3/19
Commercially I don't think it's that viable for you guys. I think your match day revenue is pretty healthy at the moment? Do you know how much it contributes to revenue?
I think we used to make something like £25-30m a year from the stadium. That figure will probably increase to £100m+ going forward with the extra seats, corporates and higher prices as well as NFL and music etc
posted on 25/3/19
The ability for Spurs to host NFL games/ Concerts etc without damaging the pitch while building the relationship with the NFL (would imagine the success in London could be replicated up North) would be very appealing to the Glazers ?????
posted on 25/3/19
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. Mopo's #1 fan. (U7905)
posted 17 seconds ago
Commercially I don't think it's that viable for you guys. I think your match day revenue is pretty healthy at the moment? Do you know how much it contributes to revenue?
I think we used to make something like £25-30m a year from the stadium. That figure will probably increase to £100m+ going forward with the extra seats, corporates and higher prices as well as NFL and music etc
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Our match day revenue is incredibly healthy but since when has that stopped businesses trying to make even more money?
Also there's scope for Old Trafford to host more types of events such as Gigs. The Bitter Bowl gets the vast majority of them currently and the cricket ground gets a few a year in the summer too.
There's always scope to improve.
posted on 25/3/19
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 4 minutes ago
The ability for Spurs to host NFL games/ Concerts etc without damaging the pitch while building the relationship with the NFL (would imagine the success in London could be replicated up North) would be very appealing to the Glazers ?????
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The club will make an absolute killing on match days now, with the stadium being open for hours after every game with live music, DJ's etc. As well as the endless amount of food options.
posted on 25/3/19
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 4 minutes ago
The ability for Spurs to host NFL games/ Concerts etc without damaging the pitch while building the relationship with the NFL (would imagine the success in London could be replicated up North) would be very appealing to the Glazers ?????
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The club will make an absolute killing on match days now, with the stadium being open for hours after every game with live music, DJ's etc. As well as the endless amount of food options.
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Yeah..... I guess none of us know what short term implication will be on our finances/ funds for the team but gotta give Levy credit..... He has clearly done everything possible to make it the best fan experience imaginable !!! I'm over for the last home game..... cant wait !!!
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