comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 2 minutes ago
It depends how you define big club. I’m sure any player at those clubs would jump at the chance to join Tottenham for one though.
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Don't disagree Whal but that would be a decision based purely on the monetary side. Many players from these clubs return to them when there are more lucrative options available in Europe though - Tevez is just a more recent example.

Not purely based on money. I think playing in Europe itself in a team that’s in a bigger league is a reason as well. A team like Tottenham as well playing in the champions league, which is the biggest competition in club football, is another reason. Playing with players like Kane, Dele Alli, Eriksen etc.

I have no doubt these clubs have amazing fanbases and great histories, but I think even clubs like Tottenham who are maybe ‘second tier’ in terms of size in Europe are still in another league in terms of their standing in football compared to clubs like boca juniors, Santos etc who may be more comparable to Ajax, Celtic, Leeds United etc.

Going to base this off of marketability and lure.

1. Real Madrid
2. Man United
3. Barcelona
4. Bayern
5. Juventus
6. PSG
7. Liverpool
8. City
9. AC Milan
10. Arsenal

I dunno about 10. Could've been Chelsea, Dortmund, Atletico, etc.

To be fair I think most people have the same top 5 and in the same order:

1. Real Madrid
2. Man United
3. Barcelona
4. Bayern
5. Juventus

I think the next 5 are the most problematic to pick.

comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 23 minutes ago
Not purely based on money. I think playing in Europe itself in a team that’s in a bigger league is a reason as well. A team like Tottenham as well playing in the champions league, which is the biggest competition in club football, is another reason. Playing with players like Kane, Dele Alli, Eriksen etc.

I have no doubt these clubs have amazing fanbases and great histories, but I think even clubs like Tottenham who are maybe ‘second tier’ in terms of size in Europe are still in another league in terms of their standing in football compared to clubs like boca juniors, Santos etc who may be more comparable to Ajax, Celtic, Leeds United etc.
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Fair point Whal, Copa Libertadores is probably the second biggest though and certainly has some pull. I think others are also dismissing the viewing figures for these clubs across that continent and I would argue that more people watch Santos, Boca and River in the USA than say LA Galaxy.

You are possibly right though in that they are more comparable with a third tier European team (Ajax, Celtic etc.)

Not purely based on money. I think playing in Europe itself in a team that’s in a bigger league is a reason as well. A team like Tottenham as well playing in the champions league, which is the biggest competition in club football, is another reason. Playing with players like Kane, Dele Alli, Eriksen etc.

I have no doubt these clubs have amazing fanbases and great histories, but I think even clubs like Tottenham who are maybe ‘second tier’ in terms of size in Europe are still in another league in terms of their standing in football compared to clubs like boca juniors, Santos etc who may be more comparable to Ajax, Celtic, Leeds United etc.
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I'd agree with that, with the exception of comparing clubs like Boca/Santos to Leeds, no contest in terms of historical significance there

But considering so many people base these lists on history and fanbase alone they can't be overlooked yet constantly are. How can someone include Ajax based off the strength of total football & the Cryuff revolution and ignore Santos' 1960-1970's side with Pele and so many others which formed the spine of Brazil's 1970 WC winning team? If you include one you have to include the other.

comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 19 minutes ago
Not purely based on money. I think playing in Europe itself in a team that’s in a bigger league is a reason as well. A team like Tottenham as well playing in the champions league, which is the biggest competition in club football, is another reason. Playing with players like Kane, Dele Alli, Eriksen etc.

I have no doubt these clubs have amazing fanbases and great histories, but I think even clubs like Tottenham who are maybe ‘second tier’ in terms of size in Europe are still in another league in terms of their standing in football compared to clubs like boca juniors, Santos etc who may be more comparable to Ajax, Celtic, Leeds United etc.
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I'd agree with that, with the exception of comparing clubs like Boca/Santos to Leeds, no contest in terms of historical significance there

But considering so many people base these lists on history and fanbase alone they can't be overlooked yet constantly are. How can someone include Ajax based off the strength of total football & the Cryuff revolution and ignore Santos' 1960-1970's side with Pele and so many others which formed the spine of Brazil's 1970 WC winning team? If you include one you have to include the other.
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Basically it seems to me that its based on Champions League/European Cup>Copa Libertadores.

I think there is an argument for that being true, which is why South America is wholly disregarded in this argument.

Wahl (this will never be said by me again) is right in that there is a third tier of European clubs that would match upto Santos, Boca and Plates - the likes of Ajax, Celtic, Everton etc. That aren't top ten in the world but just below that.